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US to Charge Chinese Officials in Hack Attack Thefts
ABC News, Good Morning America ^ | 5/19/14 | PIERRE THOMAS and MIKE LEVINE

Posted on 05/19/2014 7:02:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

The United States government is set to file charges against government officials in China for allegedly hacking U.S. business interests, marking the first time ever that the U.S. government has formally accused another nation of using the Internet to break into U.S. businesses and gain unfair economic advantage, ABC News has learned. ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: america; china; chinagovt; chinahacking; doj
America wake up.

Just saying.

1 posted on 05/19/2014 7:02:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Som Ting Wong ?


2 posted on 05/19/2014 7:04:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

This seems actually serious.

Just saying.


3 posted on 05/19/2014 7:08:36 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"The United States government is set to file charges against government officials in China for allegedly hacking"

Now that's funny, the US G0vt accusing anyone of spying is a lot like the kettle calling the pot black.

4 posted on 05/19/2014 7:10:26 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What are the chances that the Chinese Army will turn over four of its officers for trial in the US ?


5 posted on 05/19/2014 7:11:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

There is a basic difference, which I must point out here.

America has a government.

China has a government.

America’s government, is our side.


6 posted on 05/19/2014 7:12:13 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
US to Charge Chinese Officials in Hack Attack Thefts

I bet they are really REALLY scared.

7 posted on 05/19/2014 7:12:53 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America’s government, is our side.

Not lately.

8 posted on 05/19/2014 7:13:41 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: unixfox

It still is.

Far more than China’s government is our side.

Balance please.


9 posted on 05/19/2014 7:14:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

As if we don’t do the same to them.


10 posted on 05/19/2014 7:17:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

ya , it’s DISTRACTION TIME !!!


11 posted on 05/19/2014 7:27:25 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: dfwgator

I’m frankly a bit shocked that everyone seems to rush to China’s defense.

We are selling out our very own manufacturing base to a massive communist country, China. and nobody seems to give a flying fig.

Not even here.


12 posted on 05/19/2014 7:29:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What are we going to do about it, close their Bank of America accounts?


13 posted on 05/19/2014 7:31:14 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I just don’t trust this administration for anything.


14 posted on 05/19/2014 7:33:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Right after we see Obama’s original unaltered birth certificate is my guess.


15 posted on 05/19/2014 7:38:55 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Only took 20+ years for them to figure this out. Strongly worded letter to follow.


16 posted on 05/19/2014 7:52:15 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This is like the US gov’t blaming Angela Merkel for spying on the US.

The Dem-Repub police state buffoons are scrambling to please their international banking masters.

Just keep the illusion going.

Dems are “liberal”, Repubs are “conservative”.

The sky is falling. Other nations are going to “attack” us. We need our police state to keep 100% surveillance on US citizens to save the citizens from attacks by China.

What keeps my server safe from attacks from China and Ukraine is my own security measures. The US government does not administer my computers, as much as politicians and their masters would like it to.


17 posted on 05/19/2014 8:00:19 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America’s government, is our side.

That used to be the case.

18 posted on 05/19/2014 8:04:18 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: PieterCasparzen

Except it’s not like the US government blaming Angela Merkel for spying.

China currently sells America 440 billion dollars worth of stuff every year (2013)

America currently sells China 122 billion dollars worth of stuff every year (2013)

That is a MASSIVE difference.

We need to make stuff. Right here in America.


19 posted on 05/19/2014 8:08:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It’s the liberal version of Spy vs. Spy, in this case they want to reward trial lawyers.


20 posted on 05/19/2014 8:11:09 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: dfwgator

Another squirrel before an election.


21 posted on 05/19/2014 8:12:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The going to send Eric Holder to Beijing to arrest the alleged culprits?


22 posted on 05/19/2014 8:12:57 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Keep saying it.


23 posted on 05/19/2014 8:20:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“....file charges against government officials in China for allegedly hacking U.S. business interests....”

.
China’s answer: “Go ahead sue me.”


24 posted on 05/19/2014 8:33:57 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: cableguymn

By the way, is that sheriff in AZ not working on it?

Wasn’t he supposed to come out with a world-shocking revelation?


25 posted on 05/19/2014 8:38:18 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I was referring to Merkel being spied on by the US, it was in the news a while back, I was not referring to international trade imbalances.

But since you mention it, here are our trade stats with Germany for 2013:

Export $47.442 billion

Import $114.644 billion

Balance -$67.202 billion

So our negative balance as a percent of Imports is about -58%, and the negative balance is about 1.4 times as much as we export.

In the case of China, the negative balance percent of Imports is about -72%, and the negative balance is about 2.6 times as much as we export.

Worse stats than those with Germany, but we’re still way out of wack with Germany as well.

I wholeheartedly agree, we should be net exporters of manufactured goods, though since our economy is so large, we should not shoot for reliance on a massive trade surplus. Ideally, we should look to be net balanced in total, but our financial elites do not have nationalism at heart, so they won’t be pursuing that goal any time soon.

Note that the above totals don’t break out manufactured goods from commodities, services, etc.

Can we say that trade imbalance is the root cause of the US government not being able to take a “tough stand” on internet security with China ?

Actually, it should help us. In theory, it should give us tremendous peaceful leverage, since we theoretically could easily limit imports of manufactured goods.

But even though China is communist, every adminstration back to the 70’s has steadily increased our economic relationship with China, notwithstanding any disagreements our government supposedly has with communism or how China’s elites rule their peasants.

Thus we can see that those financial elites in power behind the US government never push it to do things like balance trade - or even secure the internet.

Internet security is quite a sad joke. Right from the start, packet payloads were open to view of every router they pass through from the time they leave their origin until they finally reach their destination. The “standards” developed never really dealt with physically preventing packet sniffing. Encryption of data payloads is simply an afterthought which has come into use precisely because espionage and criminal operations have come to so widely exploit the lack of security in the internet’s architecture - and the private sector is interested in their own information security and thus there is a market for encryption facilities to enable sending data securely over a completely insecure network infrastructure.

Simply put, the internet was never intended to be secure, and, while it was not invented by Al Gore per se, it certainly was brought into use largely by the US government, with various public-private partnerships, “sweetheart” companies, the “standard” elite universities associated with new world order, top defense and government contractors, etc.

We can only conclude that our illustrious financial elites never sought secure internetworking over which to transport data belonging to the sheeple. Makes sense, why, they would certainly not want to be blocked from seeing the sheeple’s data as it passes through the elites’ internet.

Some interesting historical links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_area_network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpanet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSFNET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Kapor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBN_Technologies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSNET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Research_and_Educational_Networking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEARNET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymnet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Metcalfe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Boggs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldCom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUNet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUCP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol

Bonus link (IMHO, a cool link) for entrepreneurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effects


26 posted on 05/19/2014 9:12:49 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: molson209

!!!!!!!!!*********We have a winner**********!!!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 05/19/2014 10:26:40 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I hope China does arrest the alleged culprit..

we are talking about surrendering holder to china right?


28 posted on 05/19/2014 4:40:17 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: 353FMG

he did. it’s fake.


29 posted on 05/19/2014 4:41:04 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

Absolutely. And after the execution they’ll send the family the bill for the cost of the bullet.


30 posted on 05/19/2014 6:18:09 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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