Skip to comments.More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White
Posted on 05/21/2014 9:55:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Hispanics are often described as driving up the nonwhite share of the population. But a new study of census forms finds that more Hispanics are identifying as white.
An estimated net 1.2 million Americans of the 35 million Americans identified in 2000 as of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin, as the census form puts it, changed their race from some other race to white between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, according to research presented at an annual meeting of the Population Association of America and reported by Pew Research.
The researchers, who have not yet published their findings, compared individual census forms from the 2000 and 2010 censuses. They found that millions of Americans answered the census questions about race and ethnicity differently in 2000 and 2010. The largest shifts were among Americans of Hispanic origin, who are the nations fastest growing ethnic group by total numbers.
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Come and get me, feral government goons!
Maybe that’s some of the basis for white privilege. Declare yourself white but because of a Spanish surname be eligible for affirmative action (discrimination against whites). Talk about having it both ways.
Hispanic is not a race.
Someone needs to tell La Raza.
Now that’s double dipping. Claiming white skin privilege and not giving up affirmative action status.
Sounds like a good idea until, as for an application for employment, you show up for the first interview. I would wear my Aunt Jemima costume that, pre-PC, I wore on Halloween as a kid.
Technically, neither is 'white' or 'black'.
“Hispanic is not a race.”
That is true, they are Caucasians.
Think I’ll refer to myself as a Black Russian from now on.
This is controversial. Once, they were supposed to be part of the Mongoloid (Asian) race. I think there are some arguments that indigenous people constitute their own race or sub-raceS, depending on where they are. Latin America is huge, so there’s a lot of genetic diversity by location.
Spaniards are “White”. Many Hispanics claim to be descendants of the Canary Islanders. I’m not sure why.
This is SO funny. I am white, and always check the button Hispanic. I like to upset the graphs. Sometimes I tell people I am Jewish. I never give accurate information.
I was born a poor black child.
“This is s—t, and this is Shinola.”
I want to be a long island tea.
Other than skewing crime statistics and welfare demographics, there isn’t much reason for most Hispanics in this country to identify themselves as white, unless, of course, they are primarily of Spaniard descent. The whole “white Hispanic” “non white Hispanic” thing is fodder for race-baiters. We don’t see the same confusion amongst black Hispanics or Polynesian Hispanics.
“So what is a race?”
A social construct created by humans.
Aren’t a lot of Hispanics part indigenous or part African? You can be “Hispanic” from the Dominican Republic or Cuba and be very African-appearing.
On the other hand, there are a lot of Spanish speakers from places like Brazil and Argentina who do not have any Spanish or Portuguese ancestry. They are Italian or Polish or German or Middle Eastern or something. (Like Carlos Slim of Mexico, and Pope Francis). They could easily put “caucasian” or “white”, even if they were born and raised in Latin America.
In our local area, we have a growing number of upper-middle class Brazilians. I don’t picture them caring to identify as “Hispanic”. They don’t need anybody’s charity.
Or *maybe* after 10 years, those who changed the designation have become more assimilated.
I was always white in Texas and California and the South and border states, but when I moved to the pure white, uppper Midwest, the first question I would often hear was, which Indian tribe was I part of.
I would prefer “American”, but it’s not an option.
I get that sometimes too due to my Italian background. I just play their game and invent some BS tribe and put in some “I sit all day smoking pot while my family counts the money from our casino” nonsense for extra...
Maybe they should provide color charts to match up skin tone for government data.
The government does that on many forms. Primary race: “Hispanic”, secondary race; “white”. I used to fill out forms for them.
As usual, the NYT needs to buy a clue-”Hispanic” is not a race, it is just an ethnic group, and includes all three races-but most of us are Caucasian-so they can stop handing out race cards to people who were Americans when the southwest was new Spain...
The easiest way out was on a school transfer, and checking "Caucasian" at that point.
Not all hispanics want to be held back with special favors, and a lot don't like competing with invader labor. That's the impression I got.
A guy I know who is a white skinned Mexican-American was once asked by a German in Germany, “Do you have any feathers?” I assume he meant a headdress.
It is true that many European-Spanish ancestry people who have been classed as Hispanic would want to identify as white. They are, after all, pretty much Caucasian.
But a lot of the illegal immigrants classed as Hispanic are indigenous people much like our American Indians.
It is logical that those who come from Cuba and Brazil would want to identify with their Spanish Caucasian or “white” identity to separate themselves from the indigenous Indians.
Exactly—and that’s just their thinking too!
“Hispanic” an ethnic group? I don’t think that all the Spanish speakers from Latin America are all of one ethnicity, nor do they share ethnicity with Spaniards from Spain.
For me it seems that it is Cherokee or Choctaw on my mothers side.
If “Latin” refers to the original Latins-Romans-then that includes people of Italian and French ancestry, as well as Spanish-and all have varying shades of olive skins, from pale to dark...
Typically, not. "Hispanic" can mean a pure European from Spain, a mostly black Portuguese-speaking Brazilian, a pure South American Indian speaking some native tongue, etc.
Generally, most of those identifying as "Hispanic" are mestizo : a mix of European and Native American.
If we are to categorize Hispanics as a race, like Anglo-Saxons, then fine....Hispanics are white....Yes I know it’s hard to swallow for the folks who are of paler shades of white (and all “minorities”), but it’s true.
The indians, mulattos, and mestizos that we’ve all been brainwashed to believe are of the Hispanic Race—aren’t.
It’s really simple. Those who trace their ancestry to the Spanish Iberian Peninsula (or shall I say, the ancient Roman Province of....wait for it....”Hispania”) are Hispanic. Those who don’t, aren’t.
Penelope Cruz = Hispanic
David Ortiz = Not Hispanic
If you’re of Spanish decent, then yes that’s an “ethnic group” if you play that game.
You’re totally correct in saying that just because an entire group speaks the same language and shares the same culture, doesn’t mean they share the same ethnicity.
There are a lot of people descended from Spaniards living in Latin America. In the mid 1800’s, Mexico was over 70% “white”—we call them “creole”, meaning Spanish ancestry born in Mexico. But there are a lot of German, Italian, French, even Slavic ancestry of white people in Latin America.
Hell....Anthony Quinn was half-Irish, yet Mexican!
Common sense would seem to call an ethnic group those with most of their ancestors originally in a country where a certain language was spoken-in this case, Spain and the Spanish language-and they dispersed and interbred from there.
Most people think of Hispanic as being those of Spanish ancestry in the New World-the Spanish part is what makes it an ethnic group. If you want, you can split them into sub-groups by location-but why? The Spanish we speak here is a different dialect from what is spoken in Mexico City-but so is the dialect spoken in Michoacán or Brazil-but it is still Spanish-the language originally by that ethnic group in Spain.
All three races are involved-I am to all appearances Caucasian, like most Hispanics in the Americas-but in the Caribbean and some parts of central and south America, some Hispanics are Black, and in the Philipines, they are Asian-the Spaniards spread their genes far and wide outside of Europe.
Here in the Austin area, about 90% of the “will work for food” street corner urchins are white. How is that ‘white privilege’ working out for them? Listening to the nutballs pushing this crap, one would think that they would be CEOs instead of beggars.
My nephew married a woman from Peru. She calls herself a “Latina’. However, I am certain she would ID herself as white on a census - since she is every bit as white as other Americans who are descended from Europeans.
Thank you for pointing that out-I defy anyone to find a racially pure person, Caucasian, Black or Asian when more and more evidence shoes that humans were exploring by boat pretty much to and from everywhere-America, Australia, etc several 10’s of 1000’s of years ago-if those three races were ever “pure” they certainly haven’t been in at least 15,000 years or so...
If I were designing those stupid, racist forms, I’d have exactly two boxes to check-”human” and “other”...
Plenty of White Hispanics—they came from Spain after all—in Europe. Many are intermarring with other races—all this means is that our race obcessed modern society needs to grow up before this race focus leads to riots and violence. The knock out game —black hate of whites etc... all foolishness. Soon Americans will be forced to work together or there will be no America.
There is no common sense in government-if there were it would be 1/10 the size that it is. My family came from Spain to the new world-I’m Caucasian in appearance, and by descent, mostly Hispanic/Spanish, but who knows what else after 400-500 years in the new world-only the last 250 are well documented-and not perfectly, at that. Anything earlier is just bits of paper and oral history-I’m guessing the history of any old family is similar, no matter race or descent-so why allow government or anyone else to use it to divide people?
My dad and husband were career military, I grew up color blind and I remain so.
Those forms are just used to fill racial quotas, and are in themselves racist and divisive-like I said below-make it two boxes-”Human” and “Other”...
Not “shoes”-”shows”-’scuse me...
He was selected for a supervisory post at his work, at which he is quite good. The promotion was rescinded because when a group from his HR department saw that he indeed is a "white man," they felt it would hurt their EEOC numbers! Can't have no white man here!
For EEOC purposes I have come to find out that "Hispanic" usually means some one whose skin tone at least approximates the color of a brown paper shopping bag. But wait, there are more EEOC guidelines, among them:
A Puerto Rican, or a Mexican is always an Hispanic, whether white, black, or an Amerindian. A Cuban might, or might not be an Hispanic, unless suitably complected. A Spaniard? An Argentine? A Chilean? An Uruguayan? Probably NOT Hispanic. Bolivian, Peruvian? Hispanic.
IOW, joo look like a gringo, we is gonna treat joo like a gringo!