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More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White
New York Times ^ | May 21, 2014 | Nate Cohn

Posted on 05/21/2014 9:55:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Hispanics are often described as driving up the nonwhite share of the population. But a new study of census forms finds that more Hispanics are identifying as white.

An estimated net 1.2 million Americans of the 35 million Americans identified in 2000 as of “Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin,” as the census form puts it, changed their race from “some other race” to “white” between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, according to research presented at an annual meeting of the Population Association of America and reported by Pew Research.

The researchers, who have not yet published their findings, compared individual census forms from the 2000 and 2010 censuses. They found that millions of Americans answered the census questions about race and ethnicity differently in 2000 and 2010. The largest shifts were among Americans of Hispanic origin, who are the nation’s fastest growing ethnic group by total numbers. …

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To: angry elephant

Aren’t a lot of Hispanics part indigenous or part African? You can be “Hispanic” from the Dominican Republic or Cuba and be very African-appearing.

On the other hand, there are a lot of Spanish speakers from places like Brazil and Argentina who do not have any Spanish or Portuguese ancestry. They are Italian or Polish or German or Middle Eastern or something. (Like Carlos Slim of Mexico, and Pope Francis). They could easily put “caucasian” or “white”, even if they were born and raised in Latin America.

In our local area, we have a growing number of upper-middle class Brazilians. I don’t picture them caring to identify as “Hispanic”. They don’t need anybody’s charity.


21 posted on 05/21/2014 10:22:10 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: luvbach1

Or *maybe* after 10 years, those who changed the designation have become more assimilated.


22 posted on 05/21/2014 10:22:25 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Olog-hai
I knew a guy from the Caucasus who moved to America. He said that in Russia, he was considered “Black,” but in America, he is considered “White.”
23 posted on 05/21/2014 10:22:33 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

I was always white in Texas and California and the South and border states, but when I moved to the pure white, uppper Midwest, the first question I would often hear was, which Indian tribe was I part of.


24 posted on 05/21/2014 10:25:34 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Your local beekeeper will confirm.... all-black bees are called “Caucasian”.
25 posted on 05/21/2014 10:27:20 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: Olog-hai

I would prefer “American”, but it’s not an option.


26 posted on 05/21/2014 10:27:45 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: CrazyIvan

27 posted on 05/21/2014 10:29:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ansel12

I get that sometimes too due to my Italian background. I just play their game and invent some BS tribe and put in some “I sit all day smoking pot while my family counts the money from our casino” nonsense for extra...


28 posted on 05/21/2014 10:31:26 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai
Most hispanics are white. A slightly darker shade of white, but white.

Maybe they should provide color charts to match up skin tone for government data.

29 posted on 05/21/2014 10:33:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hillary may have brain damage, but what difference does it make?)
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To: Olog-hai

The government does that on many forms. Primary race: “Hispanic”, secondary race; “white”. I used to fill out forms for them.


30 posted on 05/21/2014 10:35:40 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Olog-hai

As usual, the NYT needs to buy a clue-”Hispanic” is not a race, it is just an ethnic group, and includes all three races-but most of us are Caucasian-so they can stop handing out race cards to people who were Americans when the southwest was new Spain...


31 posted on 05/21/2014 10:35:52 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: luvbach1
In the schools I saw some of the problem responsible hispanics faced. They would be put into ESL classes that were taught in English, but spent a lot of their time patronizing those who preferred to babble in hispanic.

The easiest way out was on a school transfer, and checking "Caucasian" at that point.

Not all hispanics want to be held back with special favors, and a lot don't like competing with invader labor. That's the impression I got.

32 posted on 05/21/2014 10:35:53 AM PDT by grania
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To: ansel12

A guy I know who is a white skinned Mexican-American was once asked by a German in Germany, “Do you have any feathers?” I assume he meant a headdress.


33 posted on 05/21/2014 10:36:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hillary may have brain damage, but what difference does it make?)
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To: married21

It is true that many European-Spanish ancestry people who have been classed as Hispanic would want to identify as white. They are, after all, pretty much Caucasian.

But a lot of the illegal immigrants classed as Hispanic are indigenous people much like our American Indians.

It is logical that those who come from Cuba and Brazil would want to identify with their Spanish Caucasian or “white” identity to separate themselves from the indigenous Indians.


34 posted on 05/21/2014 10:36:30 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: luvbach1

Exactly—and that’s just their thinking too!


35 posted on 05/21/2014 10:36:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Texan5

“Hispanic” an ethnic group? I don’t think that all the Spanish speakers from Latin America are all of one ethnicity, nor do they share ethnicity with Spaniards from Spain.


36 posted on 05/21/2014 10:37:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jeff Chandler

For me it seems that it is Cherokee or Choctaw on my mothers side.


37 posted on 05/21/2014 10:38:52 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Jeff Chandler

If “Latin” refers to the original Latins-Romans-then that includes people of Italian and French ancestry, as well as Spanish-and all have varying shades of olive skins, from pale to dark...


38 posted on 05/21/2014 10:40:59 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: angry elephant
“Hispanic is not a race.” That is true, they are Caucasians.

Typically, not. "Hispanic" can mean a pure European from Spain, a mostly black Portuguese-speaking Brazilian, a pure South American Indian speaking some native tongue, etc.

Generally, most of those identifying as "Hispanic" are mestizo : a mix of European and Native American.

39 posted on 05/21/2014 10:43:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Olog-hai

If we are to categorize Hispanics as a race, like Anglo-Saxons, then fine....Hispanics are white....Yes I know it’s hard to swallow for the folks who are of paler shades of white (and all “minorities”), but it’s true.

The indians, mulattos, and mestizos that we’ve all been brainwashed to believe are of the Hispanic Race—aren’t.

It’s really simple. Those who trace their ancestry to the Spanish Iberian Peninsula (or shall I say, the ancient Roman Province of....wait for it....”Hispania”) are Hispanic. Those who don’t, aren’t.

Penelope Cruz = Hispanic
David Ortiz = Not Hispanic


40 posted on 05/21/2014 10:47:21 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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