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You Won't Believe This High School Valedictorian's GPA
Yahoo ^ | 05/20/2014 | By Suzi Parker

Posted on 05/21/2014 1:57:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Traditionally a 4.0 is considered a perfect grade point average, but Dhara Patel, a high school senior at Plant City High School in Hillsborough County, Fla., has earned an off-the-charts 10.03 GPA.

This is good news considering the new link between GPAs and salary. A recent study by researchers at the University of Miami states that a one-point increase in high school GPA raises annual earnings in adulthood by around 12 percent for men and 14 percent for women.

The study also shows that even a one-point increase in GPA doubles the likelihood of students completing college—from 21 percent to 42 percent—for both men and women.

“Conventional wisdom is that academic performance in high school is important for college admission, but this is the first study to clearly demonstrate the link between high school GPA and labor market earnings many years later,” says Michael T. French, professor of health economics at the University of Miami and corresponding author of the study.

To contribute to her astronomical GPA, Patel took 17 Advanced Placement classes. AP classes, which are on par with college courses, are often weighted, meaning that students who take them receive extra points. That helps those students accumulate a GPA way off the traditional 4.0 chart. While we are unsure if this is the highest GPA ever, we certainly can't find any other press about it. Ravi Medikonda, then a senior at King High School in Hillsborough County, Fla., earned a 9.3079 GPA in 2012.

Aside from the AP classes, Patel also spent nights, weekends, and summers studying at Hillsborough Community College. To add to her accolades, she’s earned her associate’s degree before even graduating from high school.

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I'm guessing they give the high school drop-outs a 4.0 just for the hell of it.
1 posted on 05/21/2014 1:57:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

The one thing I do NOT like about this system is that the so called “extra-curricular” activities, like athletics, band, orchestra, theater, etc.. are only 4.0 classes.

So, those that excel in sports or arts as well as academics can never compete with those that only take academic AP classes.

I think this punishes students who are the typical type A students who excel in their sport or art, and unjustly rewards the bookworms, who do not participate in any sport, art, or club.


2 posted on 05/21/2014 2:02:32 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: Responsibility2nd

When my kids were in high school (and I think when I was in HS, many years ago), you could get up to 5 points on the advanced placement type classes, so an A would get you 5.0, a B would be a 4.0 in that class, etc. And then the points would be weighted by some factor such as how many hours per week in that class, etc. But a person could only have a 5.0 GPA by having ONLY advanced placement classes through the 4 years of HS, which was impossible.

Maybe the article is referring to one semester’s GPA, not cumulative for all 4 years?


3 posted on 05/21/2014 2:04:09 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Responsibility2nd
To add to her accolades, she’s earned her associate’s degree before even graduating from high school.

Why?

4 posted on 05/21/2014 2:04:28 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Traditionally a 4.0 is considered a perfect grade point average, but Dhara Patel, a high school senior at Plant City High School in Hillsborough County, Fla., has earned an off-the-charts 10.03 GPA. “

Waste of good time, energy and investment in family and friends.


5 posted on 05/21/2014 2:05:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Talisker

If it’s a program where they can attend for free or at a bid discount (which most of these are), it’s a great way to save on college costs.


6 posted on 05/21/2014 2:05:48 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Dhara is obviously a mean-spirited racist person in obama’s america. How dare she earn a 10.0 when she can share the 10.0 GPA with “lesser’ students...


7 posted on 05/21/2014 2:06:35 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Responsibility2nd

The bumper stickers will have to be revised: “My third grade dropout kid can kick the a@@ of your 10.03 GPA kid.”


8 posted on 05/21/2014 2:07:30 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

I’m not sure if I should laugh at your comment and ask if you are sure you thought that one through? I’m sure there are smart kids who play sports and can’t devote the time to quite as much as this particular student did, but this girl made a choice to forego other activities to focus on her school work - she deserves what she earned. There is no reason any student in band, orchestra, theater, or sports can’t take AP classes too.


9 posted on 05/21/2014 2:08:03 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Talisker

Technically, after two years of my college career I had an associates. Most people do. It’s just not worth mentioning since you’re going for a four year degree. However, doing it while in high school is something exceptional.


10 posted on 05/21/2014 2:08:07 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I wonder if she has any friends? I kind of doubt it.


11 posted on 05/21/2014 2:09:26 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: nascarnation

She can also enroll as a junior at the University and have her Bachelor’s degree by age 20, Master’s at 21. She will likely do it on a full ride scholarship too. The kind of daughter dads love.


12 posted on 05/21/2014 2:10:40 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: nascarnation
If it’s a program where they can attend for free or at a bid discount (which most of these are), it’s a great way to save on college costs.

Good point, I didn't think of that.

For the most part, though, this girl sounds like a serious case of OCD.

No doubt she wants to "change the world," is politically correctly "progressive" and has her eye on "government service."

Why am I not thrilled at what she might do with her life?

13 posted on 05/21/2014 2:11:15 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

I teach AP classes. Most of my students are heavily involved in sports, music, cheer, etc. That’s the great thing about AP—kids learn how to balance their time. And honestly, most scholarship $ goes to the football, basketball, and baseball players.


14 posted on 05/21/2014 2:11:29 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Aggie Mama

My comments are well thought out, thank you.

Athletes can, and do, take AP classes, and do quite well.

My point is that their activity, be it art, music, sports.. will ultimately bring down their GPA, as it is only a 4.0 class.

Those that only take 5.0 AP classes, with no extracurricular activity, mathematically will always have higher GPAs, because they have way more 5.0 classes in the average.


15 posted on 05/21/2014 2:15:30 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Holy Grade Inflation!

I graduated from HS 40+ years ago, and I ended up top 10% of my class with a whopping 3.6 GPA.

Today, that might get me in the top third, or am I too optimistic?

16 posted on 05/21/2014 2:18:07 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Where it makes a difference is in the top 10 rankings at the end of their Senior year.

Having to have 4 or more 4.0 classes in your GPA mix, even if you are a straight A student, will ultimately hurt your class ranking.

They are ranked lower because they participated and excelled in extracurricular activities.


17 posted on 05/21/2014 2:19:49 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: SpinnerWebb
When I was a pup, 4.00 was a perfect GPA and you couldn't get any better. Those who wanted to delve further looked at the transcript and the difficulty of the classes taken, extra-curricular activities and all that.

Outfits that were too lazy to compare a 3.98 GPA in political science to a 3.80 GPA in chemistry, settled for a lesser class of incoming freshmen or lesser employees.

Now, we have lots of GPAs over 4.00 and almost nobody know what the hell they mean.

18 posted on 05/21/2014 2:23:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Talisker

While I applaud her for all of the effort she has expended, weighting the HS GPA with classes from college, distorts the entire idea of a high school GPA.


19 posted on 05/21/2014 2:33:30 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SpinnerWebb
It's statements like yours that are one of the reasons I weep for my country.

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Congrats Jamal. You can't read or write, but here's your 4.0 GPA because you can throw a ball through through a metal ring.

And Jimmy, you don those tights really well. Those AP Chemistry students have nothing on you. That extra prancing you did right before curtain call? Valedictorian material for sure.

20 posted on 05/21/2014 2:43:28 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Why are cops ROE more lenient against us, here in the US, than U.S. military's ROE's in a war zone?)
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To: SpinnerWebb

“So, those that excel in sports or arts as well as academics can never compete with those that only take academic AP classes.”

Good. That’s the way it should be. The grades should be based on academic achievement in the classes. Extracurricular activities however do matter and indicate rounding. They look good on applications and resumes etc and often get factored into acceptance decisions. Maybe not as much as you would like. During high school I worked at night and no one gave me any extra credit for that. It’s a cruel world.


21 posted on 05/21/2014 2:43:48 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Responsibility2nd

“AP classes, which are on par with college courses, are often weighted, meaning that students who take them receive extra points.”

Sure, but when I was in school the maximum they were weighted was a 6.0. You could get a 5.0 for an honors class A, and a 6.0 for an AP class A, and that was that. You couldn’t even get a 6.0 aggregate GPA, because there were no AP classes for some courses, such as Phys Ed. You’d cap out around 5.4 or so for your total GPA, if you took all the AP classes available and got straight As.

Some school districts apparently weight them much higher now, but I don’t think it is fooling anyone. Surely colleges just recalculate the GPAs based on a standard formula to account for such practices.


22 posted on 05/21/2014 2:44:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SpinnerWebb

“The one thing I do NOT like about this system is that the so called “extra-curricular” activities, like athletics, band, orchestra, theater, etc.. are only 4.0 classes.”

When I was in school, those were 0.0 classes, because they weren’t actually classes. Extracurricular means outside the curriculum, therefore no grades, and even if they wanted to give grades, they couldn’t count towards your GPA.


23 posted on 05/21/2014 2:45:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Responsibility2nd

Absurdity

A perfect score is an even accomlishment for all who attain it
4.0

Inflating that for extra cirricular is just part of school over congragulating

I witnessed it today with my own eyes

8 th graders

I blame women...sorry...totally have snockered schools with touchy feely bullshit


24 posted on 05/21/2014 2:50:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Night Hides Not

Forty plus years ago we could complete high school where we actually learned how to do tasks which would lead to immediate employment. Today by the time most kids complete high school they may have covered a lot of different material but most of it is just “stuff” IMO which, with a $3 bill will get them a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts or a job flipping burgers.

Some of the same jobs are still out there - electrician, plumber, etc. - but a lot of the jobs that high school graduates did in “our day” have totally disappeared or left the country.


25 posted on 05/21/2014 2:52:16 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Talisker

....No doubt she wants to “change the world,” is politically correctly “progressive” and has her eye on “government service.” .....

I didn’t see any references in the full article to any such sentiments on her part.


26 posted on 05/21/2014 2:55:56 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Responsibility2nd

This GPA just shows me how absurd the process has become. If I met a kid purporting to have a 10.03 GPA, and was somehow convinced it was a meaningful figure, I think I’d laugh out loud.


27 posted on 05/21/2014 2:56:01 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: wardaddy

I would blame NEA teachers and administrators regardless of gender.


28 posted on 05/21/2014 2:57:40 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: SpinnerWebb

You are one hundred percent right, and I’m not impressed with this student’s academic record. Prisoners on chain gangs get a lot done, too.

Here in Los Angeles, foreign-born students (or the children of foreign-born parents) take up a huge proportion of the seats available at the University of California. These grinders are able to shut out American kids because they’ve brought their freakazoid Sunday-to-Sunday study schedules to our country.

GPAs above 4.0 are simply a way to game the system and beat out a kid who went to the prom or pursued cheerleading. You’re not smarter or more deserving — you’re exactly like an Olympic athlete who takes steroids to gain an edge.

My grandparents’, parents’, and my taxes built and pay for these schools — why is there no room at UCLA anymore for kids who played Little League?


29 posted on 05/21/2014 2:59:05 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

Do illegals pay “in-state” tuition in Cali?

I feel that should only be allowed after they have repaid the state for the years of elementary/high school they used.


30 posted on 05/21/2014 3:03:18 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Blue Ink

Part of it is also the characters chasing high GPAs. It’s silly. As a parent, I’d encourage no less than a B (or better) average every semester. For every C grade there must be a comparable A grade to balance it out.

If the kid shows no affinity for math, science, chemistry, etc., then forget the dream of medical school and brace myself for another lawyer (like me).

If the kid pops Cs in English, composition, history, then brace for a doctor.

If the kid excels in languages, look into careers in that area like their mom.

Weaving a basket case over grades is just stupid. Raise a good, morally decent kid with strengths, cultivate the strengths, and get them to responsible, self sustaining adulthood.


31 posted on 05/21/2014 3:04:26 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Responsibility2nd
She should have given some of them GPA's to the less advantaged..!!

That's the Odinga way!!!

32 posted on 05/21/2014 3:07:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My sister graduated from Wazzu with a perfect 4.0 GPA, Summa Cum Laude and is a 5th grade teacher making about $40K/year. She spent every waking moment completing her assignments to get those coveted “A’s”. I graduated with a 3.3 GPA in civil engineering which includes 2 “D’s” and never stayed awake past 9:00, had a wife, paid child support, and house and car payments and a job (no student loans) and now make 3 times her pay/year.

Therefore I think their study is flawed


33 posted on 05/21/2014 3:08:06 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Night Hides Not

I was #10 in my HS graduating class of approximately 150 with a 3.76 GPA. Our GPAs were not weighted. Four above me had a 4.0 (and they shared Valedictorian honors; four others never took a difficult class a day in their lives (read no Honors or AP classes) and one (who happened to be my best friend) edged me out for the number 9 spot. In my day, grades were not inflated, weighted or handed out simply on a whim to pad a student’s college application.


34 posted on 05/21/2014 3:13:19 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: Responsibility2nd

My late wife graduated college with a 3.94 or maybe 3.97. I can’t remember for sure. I got out of Troy with a 2.1.

We took the Federal Service Entrance Exam together. She scored 89 and I got 99. I think it surprised her a little but she ended up with an automatic 100 because of her grades.


35 posted on 05/21/2014 3:20:44 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: nascarnation

“Do illegals pay “in-state” tuition in Cali?”

Yep.


36 posted on 05/21/2014 3:21:54 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink
GPAs above 4.0 are simply a way to game the system and beat out a kid who went to the prom or pursued cheerleading. You’re not smarter or more deserving — you’re exactly like an Olympic athlete who takes steroids to gain an edge.

Not a bit.

You're like the athlete who works 3x as hard to gain an edge. And quite possibly has more innate talent to begin with.

Grades are, or should be, for learning. Not for cheerleading, or being popular, or leading a protest against Bush, or becoming homecoming queen, or volunteering at a homeless shelter, or playing football.

Those, or some of them, are legitimate pursuits. But they're not what grades are designed to measure.

If you cut through the crap in this article, what it means is that this student essentially completed two years of college while still in high school.

That's an amazing accomplishment! Perhaps we can introduce her to Sheldon Cooper?

37 posted on 05/21/2014 3:28:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SpinnerWebb

“think this punishes students who are the typical type A students who excel in their sport or art, and unjustly rewards the bookworms, who do not participate in any sport, art, or club.”

Well, it’s a SCHOOL. Extra stuff is extra.

(And yes, I played every sport.)


38 posted on 05/21/2014 3:29:09 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Talisker

The article does NOT mention that she wants to “change the world” or go into ANY type of government job, womyns studies, or community organizer type program. My guess, she will go into a hard science/engineering/medicine and her intellect and obvious work ethic will get her (and possibly society) far.


39 posted on 05/21/2014 3:31:10 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: Repeat Offender

“Congrats Jamal. You can’t read or write, but here’s your 4.0 GPA because you can throw a ball through through a metal ring.”

That’s not what this is about. This is about kids who DO take AP Chemistry and demonstrate MORE THAN SUFFICIENT smarts, getting 4.0 GPAs. They should have their pick of colleges, but they’re getting beat out by study prisoners from foreign cultures who’ve moved the goalpost to a 10.0. GPA. There is no benefit to America or American kids for adopting this patently absurd new method of measuring college readiness.

If you want to take away your kid’s childhood, have them sit out the prom, never play a sport, and take college classes every summer day when the other kids are inner tubing on the river — knock yourself out. That’s not the way we do it in America. We don’t want our kids to live like that. And the way we used to do it worked great.

And it’s laughable to posit that a mythical 10.0 GPA beats a 4.0 GPA academically. The 4.0 kid is just as qualified as the 10.0 for that seat at UCLA.


40 posted on 05/21/2014 3:39:55 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

That pretty much explains your problem there....


41 posted on 05/21/2014 3:51:58 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Sherman Logan

Getting a 10.0 for extra academic work doesn’t demonstrate a higher IQ or more innate talent than someone who ALREADY ACHIEVED PERFECTION with a 4.0.

To use your athlete metaphor... why would a pitcher who pitched a perfect game then run laps around the field? It’s make-work and demonstrates nothing.

A 10.0 simply masks deficiencies in other areas of life. Because that student obviously didn’t play the trombone or become an Eagle Scout.

There’s nothing laudable about it. It’s creepy.


42 posted on 05/21/2014 3:54:35 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink
A 10.0 simply masks deficiencies in other areas of life. Because that student obviously didn’t play the trombone or become an Eagle Scout.

But school grades aren't supposed to be for being a well-rounded person. That's not what they're measuring.

Grades are supposed to measure academic performance.

I'm perfectly willing to agree that this person's GPA performance is kind of weird.

But I assume you will agree that if 50,000 students achieve a 4.0, there still should be some possible way to rank them within that level.

Students who choose to sacrifice socialization and partying to achieve higher academic performance should not be penalized by extra points given to others who choose not to spend the time and effort on academics.

43 posted on 05/21/2014 4:28:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Responsibility2nd

I applaud this young lady’s brains and hard work, and hope she does very well in life.

1) This is not her fault, but the GPA system has been rendered meaningless by rampant grade inflation and this sort of farce.

2) Why did she waste her time in high school and community college, when she could have started at a major university, at least by her junior year? Certainly high school was cheaper, but as a brilliant, female, ethnic minority, she would seem a good candidate for major scholarships. She certainly wasn’t spending her time on “socialization”.


44 posted on 05/21/2014 4:29:15 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Sherman Logan

“But I assume you will agree that if 50,000 students achieve a 4.0, there still should be some possible way to rank them within that level.”

Agreed, all things being academically equal, you have to find another way to rank them. That’s where other things besides grades should come into play. Wow, this kid can draw, too. Or play the trumpet. Or shoot baskets. Well-rounded kids are more qualified for college success — and life happiness — than someone who takes yet another advanced math class, when they’ve already passed calculus.

A cheerleader who also passed calculus shouldn’t be penalized for being seventeen and enjoying life.

A GPA simply is not and cannot be the only measure of potential college success. They’re kids — not robots.

And again, Sunday-to-Sunday grind — and 10.0 GPAs — is not the American system. I don’t remember voting to change it to the Chinese system. I don’t want it here.


45 posted on 05/21/2014 5:06:06 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Delta Dawn

Which is why I homeschooled my kids and sent them to the community college to earn up to thirty credist for half price!


46 posted on 05/21/2014 5:09:28 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Blue Ink
all things being academically equal, you have to find another way to rank them.

There is no such thing as "academically equal."

If two students score exactly equal over a high school career, that indicates inadequacy of the rating system, not exactly equal performance.

Grades are not intended to rank a person's worth or value. They're supposed to be rankings of academic performance. Nothing more but nothing less.

47 posted on 05/21/2014 5:14:48 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Responsibility2nd

10.03? Two and a-half times a perfect 4.0. At some point, far, far short of 10.03, these grading systems became more than a little bit ridiculous, and almost meaninless.

Nothing wrong with 4.0 being the highest possible, then those with a need to evaluate a transcript can review courses taken and extracurriculars.

I’d venture a guess that all these ways to earn additional grade points were devised to bump those up who can’t, or won’t, perform acceptably within the old 4.0 is perfect system of grading.


48 posted on 05/21/2014 5:31:51 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Sherman Logan

I am in complete agreement that GPA should reflect only academic performance. When I say “academically equal,” I mean a 4.0 for taking the same classes. Say, AP History, AP English, Calculus, Chemistry, and Physics.

So, two students — straight A’s in all those classes. How do you choose between them? Look at something else. One student plays softball. The other student — probably foreign-born or the child of foreign-born parents — takes a couple of college classes and gets A’s. Now that student’s average is something ridiculous, higher than a 4.0. Better than perfect.

Those extra college classes simply should not factor into high school GPAs or college admissions, because they penalize the other student for expressing her talent in a different area — sports is a form of talent, too —after she did everything right academically.

The 10.0 student in the article is not academically more ready for college or demonstrably smarter than the 4.0 high school kid not taking college classes. She’s just running more laps. Who cares? The mere 4.0 student has played the game on the field to perfection, and does other things as well. I would argue she’s more talented than the 10.0 weirdo grinder.

I would also argue Americans gain nothing when we move the goalpost marking what constitutes perfect academic performance to accommodate foreign cultures, who are happy to sacrifice their kids’ childhoods if they can beat out your kid for that slot at UCLA.

The academic curriculum that made possible these silly 10.0 GPAs started in China and has only recently been imported to America. With devastating results for American kids.


49 posted on 05/21/2014 5:45:31 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Kirkwood
I wonder if she has any friends? I kind of doubt it.

Why would you doubt that she has friends? Bright, hard-working kids have friends. Usually they are other bright, hard-working kids. It's a misconception that people who do very well academically are boring nerds. I've known some brilliant people who are also attractive, charming, and fun.

50 posted on 05/21/2014 6:30:07 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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