Skip to comments.The Hobbit 3 spoilers: details about the Battle of Five Armies
Posted on 05/22/2014 4:27:23 PM PDT by Perdogg
Spoilers and details of the third installment of The Hobbit franchise, called The Battle of Five Armies, are making fans excited as the first look draws near
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I don’t personally recall the battle of the five armies, nor the confrontation between Sauron and the White Council. Is there any source material on either one?
The battle of the five armies takes place in the next to last chapter of the book. The White Council does fight Sauron at Dol Goldor but it is “off camera”.
Those that have read the books know what happens. But there’s still probably nothing that could prepare you for actually seeing it on film.
“It has been reported that the film will follow Tolkien’s book, though one character who died in the book, Thorin Oakenshield, will remain alive.”
Is there ANYTHING Peter Jackson cannot screw up?!
Sounds the Jackson really thinks he could teach JRR Tolkien a thing or two about story-telling.
As long as Jackson is drawing upon source material for the movie, I’m generally fine with small changes, if it helps with the box office.
I’m generally grateful Peter Jackson fought, even risking his and the parent studio, to get it made.
the battle of the five armies is in the book. White council not.
How are they going to tie this in with Game of Thrones? /ducks
We cannot WAIT! We are cheap, cheap, CHEAP and have seen all of the LOTR movies in IMAX at top dollar. Well worth the time and money spent.
Signed, a Very Satisfied Consumer :)
Although I wish Jackson would let him die, it could be an interesting interpretation.
If told right.
I think they are making all these Tolkien movies because they’ve already built most of the sets.
And probably ten billion dollars in sheer profit.
Small changes? In the most recent movie, three of the most prominent characters were not even *in* the book, and the plot was distorted beyond recognition.
I have to admit that ancient history was not my best subject in school.
So was, The Battle of Five Armies, where the Five Armies squared off against the Five Guys hamburger chain in the Burgher Wars?
I am so confused...
The very first LOTR movie was ok, the extended version better.
The rest, including all the Hobbit, have been horrible.
The only change Im personally aware of was the affection between the elf and dwarf. Everything else is part of the Tolkien universe in one of his books somewhere.
Like it or not, though not many females are in the Tolkien books, they exist in real life and they need something to keep them interested in wanting to see the movie. :)
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I have to be completely honest. I loved the Lord of the Rings and Jackson did a great job of telling the story. He left out Tom Bombadil for some reason. I am also a very big fan of The Hobbit. I have read the Hobbit at least a dozen times. I have read it to my oldest son twice and will read it to my other sons when they get a little older.
That being said: I fell asleep during the Hobbit’s second movie installment. The entire franchise is TOO DAMN LONG and has too many parts not in the book.
It should have been a scene for scene account of the actual book which is a children’s book after all. A single three hour movie would do more justice than this over wrought trilogy.
And I read somewhere that the actor who plays Thorin, Richard Armitage, has said that the ending follows the book. Let’s wait until the movie is actually being shown before we start hating on it because it is leaving out something that we found essential in the book. Then, we can judge what is actually on the screen.
This is the strategy that Gene Rodenberry used to get a Star Trek series back on television.
He figured that if he could get a Star Trek movie made it would drum up renewed interest and all the props and sets (mostly) would just be sitting around all paid for. Seems to have worked like a charm.
Silly little ring goes on to cause a LOT of trouble
I've always thought that the Rankin-Bass animated version of The Hobbit with Orson Bean voicing Bilbo and John Huston voicing Gandalf was a gem. Very entertaining and true to the book.
Looks like an elfin vampire. Hey, there’s another franchise...
You forgot the Orcnado! Orcs came raining down in a cyclonic storm...
Jackson is on record as having said that nonTolkien fans would have found Bombadil confusing and it wasn’t essential to the story, as much as we would have wanted to see it.
I can agree that it would have been very confusing and distracting, because the Hobbits were on the run for their lives against ever-present danger, but they could stay with, Bombadil practically forever, not to mention that this ring supposedly got everybody it touch addicted to wanting oower, but to him it had about as much hold on him as a cheap trinket would have on you or I?
And casting Richard Boone as the voice of Smaug was inspired. An exceptional scene when an invisible Bilbo is first facing Smaug who continually calls him a "thief".
Funny you should mention it...
Aidan Turner starred in the first three seasons of the BBC version of Being Human, where he played a vampire.
And he’s the reason that the vampire on the American version of the series was renamed “Aidan”.
Does Tyrion lead the Lannister clan?
E, you may be one of the greatest posters in Freeper history. I am definitely unable to follow your train of thought on this thread.
Maybe you have found a worm hole here on FreeRepublic that allows you to mind-post to whatever thread that you desire.
Please help me understand...
I just saw the Red Box ‘Desolation of Smaug’ and was underwhelmed. I don’t recall a romance between Killi and Evangeline Lilly’s character (or her character for that matter), the wooden tubs were sealed/the ridiculous fight with the Orcs never happened, where did Legolas come from?, Smaug v. Bilbo was disappointing, yecchhh .....
I haven’t seen the US version yet. One of these days.
Turner has also played a werewolf in The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones. Don’t bother watching. It’s terrible.
Yes! I'd forgotten. I especially love the scene when Smaug rises up and tells Bilbo a thing or two about himself...spreading his wings and puffing out his chest. But he also revealed that one little flaw. Soon to be his downfall.
That’s absurd. He dies as redemption of his avarice. I don’t believe for a minute that Peter Jackson changed the ending of the book.
~Or I’ve had way to much bourbon to read the article correctly.
I think a couple of 100 minute movies, with Sam narrating the story to his kids, would cover it and keep it true to the spirit of the book.
I would agree that having the barrels sealed would have ultimately made it a better scene. Have them float by the orcs, with the orcs arguing about whether to check them or not.
Don’t forget about how Shore’s soundtrack was probably the best for a film series.
I think they killed him off “Being Human” so he could play Kili the Dwarf in The Hobbit franchise.
I like his style and his acting. And like a doting grandma, I think he’s cute, too. ;-)
We are no relation, though.
Legolas was the son of the King of the Elven Kingdom where the dwarves were imprisoned.
It's entirely reasonable he'd be around, even though not mentioned in The Hobbit.
That’s what I’ve heard, too. Sort of lost interest in the show after he left.
And I agree, he is cute.
And Richard Armitage and Dean O’Gorman aren’t bad either.
I don't have a problem with that, in theory.
Most of the stuff with Dol Guldur and such is actually in the Tolkien mythos, primarily in the appendices to LOTR.
The problem is that The Hobbit is a children's story. It's told from the perspective of a funny little person, quite unsophisticated. For most of the story he doesn't have a clue about the larger picture of what's going on around him.
What PJ has attempted to do is take this small, sweet story and turn it into an epic, with the scope and scale of the LOTR movies, which I thought he in general did quite well.
However, I fell asleep in the most recent Hobbit episode. Too much video game nonsense.
My complaint is not so much that he expanded the story, but that he did a poor job of it.
I haven’t even seen the first Hobbit film - but I really liked LOTR
In the story Tom had immense power, but was not interested in exercising it or exerting it outside his little patch of Middle Earth.
The implication is that he is some sort of Maia or something similar who has been there since Arda was created.
While the Nazgul and presumably Sauron's armies couldn't overpower him, if Sauron himself came, Tom would be destroyed.
More critically, Tom couldn't be trusted to keep the Ring safe because that's not the way his mind worked. He'd lose it or give it away without thinking about it.
He just was not a serious or responsible person.
Here's a quote from JRRT on his character: " The story is cast in terms of a good side, and a bad side, beauty against ruthless ugliness, tyranny against kingship, moderated freedom with consent against compulsion that has long lost any object save mere power, and so on; but both sides in some degree, conservative or destructive, want a measure of control. But if you have, as it were, taken 'a vow of poverty', renounced control, and take your delight in things for themselves without reference to yourself, watching, observing, and to some extent knowing, then the questions of the rights and wrongs of power and control might become utterly meaningless to you, and the means of power quite valueless..."
The first Hobbit movie was OK. Had some remarkably silly stuff with Radagast and his means of transportation. Also had a WAY too long chase scene through the orc tunnels. Very video gameish.
The essence of the charm of the book was that it was about a small, utterly unsophisticated person stuck in the middle of great events. He never fully understood them, but by his courage and innate decency he nevertheless played a key role.
Most of that gets lost if you insist on turning Bilbo into some sort of warrior.
There are many who think Tom is one of the Valar, Tulkas in particular because there are a lot of similarities between the two and their wives.
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