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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 21 MAY 23, 2014
Free Republic | 5/23/2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 05/23/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

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Greetings from Missouri. Oh what a beautiful day here on the little one acre ranch! Sun is shining and the temperature is a balmy 75 degrees in doors and outside!

My idea of perfect gardening weather. I got several of the seedlings transplanted and mulched this past week. Next up is to transplant the peanuts, and then I'll be direct sowing other veggies to fill up any remaining spaces.

I have 4 more cherry tomatoes ripe and ready to eat from Mr. Indoor Tomato. Lemons are still maturing. We had our first 2 ripe strawberries yesterday. Hubby has covered the beds with netting.

I have been doing some nutrition research lately, and finding some interesting new data relating to Vitamin K2, which is not found in green leafy veggies - that's K1 and they have very different purposes.

If you are worried about fragile bones, heart disease,overweight, or cancer to name just a few, get some K2 supplements (check the label for MK7 source). Food sources are goose liver pate, eggs from pastured chickens, hard cheeses like dutch gouda, and butter from grass fed cows. Most of which has disappeared from our diets thanks to current mass production methods. Lots of new and astounding research has been completed recently. The heart healthy diet rules haven't been modified yet, but it appears that they should be.

Hope all your gardens are doing well. Have a great holiday weekend. Drive safely if you are traveling. God Bless.

1 posted on 05/23/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 05/23/2014 12:41:48 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I just finished getting all my veggies in. Usually we have to wait for Memorial Day but the long range forecast looked good and it worked out well.

Getting that extra two weeks in for the garden is a God send.

It does so much better.


3 posted on 05/23/2014 12:48:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: greeneyes

I won’t even TRY to find my name on your ping list.


4 posted on 05/23/2014 12:48:44 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: greeneyes

This is the third load today. I'm done. Kaput. On strike. Wore out like a rented mule.

Everything is slowly coming along. Peppers are a little slow in developing, as is the tobacco.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/23/2014 12:50:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to the list. I am a gardening fool from Missouri. I have a garden in central MO and one about 150 miles to the SW. Lettuce, radish, and onion crops have been perfect this year. The cold killed off the peach crop but the apples look great. Using different approach this year to keep the fungus from getting my tomatoes—newspaper, instead of forage mulch.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 12:51:35 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Neoliberalnot:" Using different approach this year to keep the fungus from getting my tomatoes—newspaper, instead of forage mulch."

Are you rotating your crops , or growing exactly where you were growing tomatoes where you weredoing so last year ?
Have you ever laid the ground fallow , or with a green manure crop ?
The reason why I ask is because fungus crops occur where they were planted last
Consider crop rotation .

7 posted on 05/23/2014 1:00:08 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: greeneyes

“Goose liver pate”....ehehheeheh. Sounds so fu-fu. My friend she raises free range chickens so I guess those eggs have K2. Well just finished planting replacement ‘maters round 2. If these get diseased too I’ll have to wait until the new seedlings of Juliette’s hybrids need to grow up some more and then transplant early Sept here in N. Tx.


8 posted on 05/23/2014 1:00:54 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Marcella
This is the third load today.

All the loads were that big? I think you can take the rest of the day off.

Hmm, Marecella is on a date that lasts for two days..Wonder where she met that guy..

9 posted on 05/23/2014 1:01:02 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: greeneyes

MK7 is good but look into thorne’s drops or some other source of MK4 as well.

We try to eat lots of k2 in our diet. Especially the kiddos as it looks like it’s important to brain development as well.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 1:02:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: JRandomFreeper

Is that mulch or what? I can’t tell exactly.

Whatcha buildin’ with it?


11 posted on 05/23/2014 1:03:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz
Does anyone grow "ramps" ( spring wild onions, generally found in the woods)?
or , know of a source ?
12 posted on 05/23/2014 1:04:09 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Hey /johnny where do you get your mulch/compost from?


13 posted on 05/23/2014 1:04:43 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes
Hi all from the Upstate of SC. Our crops (a few rows of corn, green beans, carrots, squash, etc.) in the raised garden bed are being dug around (some dug up!) by chipmunks....anyone have a good way to ward them off? I hate to set traps as have dogs and cats and sure don't want anything to happen to the beloveds!

Our pots which we are growing hot peppers and tomatoes are slow to get started and we can't seem to get the hot peppers going.Two of our plants have already kicked the salsa jar!
14 posted on 05/23/2014 1:07:24 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: greeneyes

Here in Kansas all of my seed started heirloom tomatoes are about 30” tall and loaded with blooms. The ornamental corn is starting to tassel. We are already eating radishes. Love the green house that allowed for the early start on the corn and maters. It’s working on the flowers now.


15 posted on 05/23/2014 1:08:08 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: greeneyes
Hello gardeners. I have not posted on the gardening thread in quite awhile, but I have read every thread each week and keep up with all the news from the gardeners.

For the past two years or so I have not had a garden. I am now back at my home in Meridian, Ms and I planted my first garden in two years last week and I am very happy. It took lots of work to restart my garden plot. I Took soil samples and had them analyzed by the county agent and Ms State. I only needed to add a little nitrogen and potassium. I also removed my old PVC drip system and replaced it with a commercial system from https://www.dripworks.com and added an Ez Flo automatic fertilizing system to the set up. Nice system.

I am a homegrown tomato lover and have planted something like 32 + tomato plants along with a few pepper plants and zukes. I have only planted half the garden space I have had in the past. Just not as spry and energetic as I was just a few years ago. I may venture into the other half of the garden with some watermelon and acorn squash if I get a little more adventurous in the next week or so. All my tomato plants are heirloom and include Marion, San Marzano, Red Beefsteak, Black Prince and Arkansas Traveler. I also planted some Pimento Pepper and a few hot peppers.

Wishing y’all great gardening this year.

16 posted on 05/23/2014 1:11:58 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I always have them all over my front lawn..

a few miles from me in the mountains every April they have a “Ramp Tramp”..

Music, clogging..ramp plants for sale, and they make an incredible dish of scrambled eggs with ramps for sale..

great fun..


17 posted on 05/23/2014 1:15:36 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: sockmonkey; Marcella
Wonder where she met that guy..

Axe murderer convention...

/johnny

18 posted on 05/23/2014 1:20:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Black Agnes
It is partially composted shredded tree mulch. My goal is 8" over the entire yard. For this year. It does break down and go into the soil. Keeps down weeds and reduces the need for watering.

/johnny

19 posted on 05/23/2014 1:22:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tflabo
Under the bridge about 1/2 mile from the house. The city composts their tree trimmings etc... and puts it there on a first come, first serve basis. You get to load your own. It's a lot like work.

/johnny

20 posted on 05/23/2014 1:24:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Does anyone grow "ramps" ( spring wild onions, generally found in the woods)?

I don't "grow" them - they just show up all over the place.

21 posted on 05/23/2014 1:24:20 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh wow. You’re my hero. I’d love to do somthing like that in my front flower bed and extend it. Maybe later this year though, that stuff isn’t cheap even if you haul it yourself. (my idea of cheap is more like free)

Do you have a termite problem in your area? That’s the other thing holding my plans up. I don’t want to encourage critters like termites to get too close to the house.


22 posted on 05/23/2014 1:26:23 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: tflabo
Most cities in North Texas have a similar program. Some restrict how much you can get, but they will load it with a front end loader for you. Call your city offices and ask.

/johnny

23 posted on 05/23/2014 1:26:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Black Agnes
I get it for free. I just have to load it myself. No problem with termites. The mold grabs the mulch pretty quick, and it forms a web that can extend for meters.

/johnny

24 posted on 05/23/2014 1:28:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

J well I did check with my city but they don’t offer the mulch/compost. Wish they did but I load grass clipping bags in my truck on trash pickup days and use that as mulch and also for composting too. My garden plot is pretty small but it still takes quite a few bags with staggered pick ups during the season. All that hauling compost work keeps you young and spry my man.


25 posted on 05/23/2014 1:36:36 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Third load?
My back would be screaming at the end of the first load!


26 posted on 05/23/2014 1:37:43 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: tflabo
You could drive over here, and buy me beer to help you load. ;) It's not THAT far in Texas terms.

/johnny

27 posted on 05/23/2014 1:38:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good idea johnny-—but we drink the beers after the work or I’ll turn into compost during the job, ehehehehe.


28 posted on 05/23/2014 1:53:06 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes

We bought some soil today for our containers at Home Depot. I met Vince Wilfork (New England Patriots-football) in one of the aisles, and said “hi” to him. What a thrill! Gardening is exciting! :)


29 posted on 05/23/2014 1:57:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

North Idaho...

Just got tomato plants in....

Strawberries in for 2 weeks...

Herbs in and growing...

Crossing our fingers...


30 posted on 05/23/2014 1:57:00 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: 4everontheRight

I’ve got an Owl with the rotating head that pretty much keeps everything out of the garden during the day.

You can spray fox pee around for night.

Can’t find fox pee, sprinkle some red pepper around.

As an added bonus with pepper it’s fun to watch varmints jump around when it gets up their nose.


31 posted on 05/23/2014 1:57:59 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: JRandomFreeper

Lovely. Nice color.


32 posted on 05/23/2014 1:58:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Nice to see you again!


33 posted on 05/23/2014 1:58:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

Put out 50+ sweet potato slips this week and papered/mulched around them. Peanuts get planted this coming Monday. Hopefully this summer is warm, like summer is supposed to be but heaven forbid we get one like 2011 again.


34 posted on 05/23/2014 1:59:30 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin

Spring has finally hit Wisconsin, along with drenching rains. Consequently, the grass is growing like gangbusters. I spent many hours on the mower yesterday, slogging through the front pasture. I might even buy a flower, or two, to plant over the weekend. Perhaps a tomato would be in order.

My garden plot, which lay fallow all last summer because of my surgery, is sprouting al kinds of weeds. But, I noticed that the little trees that I planted from the Arbor society have grown well, despite my neglect, and they need to come out NOW! And one of the lilacs has gotten quite large and it ready to bloom.

Does anyone know when they can be safely transplanted? Do I have to wait until fall?


35 posted on 05/23/2014 2:06:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: JRandomFreeper

Can you bring a load to my house?


36 posted on 05/23/2014 2:07:42 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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We harvested our first Mammoth Jalapeno peppers yesterday, along with some Hot Banana peppers. Summer squash is coming along fine after I treated the plant with epsom salts.

I think (hope) that the stinking armadillo is gone because I'll have 11 new okra sprouts to transplant in a few days. The okra seem to prefer germinating in Miracle Grow potting soil better than composted manure in the garden or peat pots.

Oh yeah, lettuce - I am playing around with a bare bones hydroponic system and I grew some lettuce. The plants weren't doing so good in the hydroponics, so I transplanted them in the garden a couple weeks ago. Now, they're ready to harvest!
I think the hydroponics just needs more fish for a larger nutrient supply, but that's in the future.

The Roma and Cherry tomato plants that suffered the chicken attack are returning to normal. The birds ate all of the little green tomato's and parts of the plants, then they nested and laid eggs at the scene of the crime. If they weren't so productive, they would have been in the pot in no time.

The Mrs and I have been selling at a local Farmers Market. The market is only open for three hours on Thurdsay mornings, yet I sell on an average 7 dozen eggs, and she sells all her home-baked goods:

We're both hoping to have enough vegetable produce to sell there this summer.

37 posted on 05/23/2014 2:10:33 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: greeneyes

This past week was spent figuring out the best place for my plants. Moved the tomatoes from the raised beds that get full sun, all day, to pots on the porch where they get about 6 hours of direct sunlight. They are doing so much better and all have little baby tomatoes. Had to make a shade for my squash and beans that I moved to the raised bed because their tender new leaves were burning up. By the end of the week the plants had grown enough that I didn’t need the shade. Lettuce is on the covered porch and looking pretty good ( only gets early morning sun). Squash has blossoms but still no babies.


38 posted on 05/23/2014 2:11:34 PM PDT by heylady
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To: Red_Devil 232; JustaDumbBlonde

Nice to hear from you. You always leave such interesting posts. I wonder if Justadumbblonde will ever turn up again?

PS. Did you ever replace those beautiful dogs? We lost our Golden last year to Pancreatic Cancer. It was tough, and I’m still dogless.


39 posted on 05/23/2014 2:12:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

Great to hear that you have good weather and have been actively gardening outdoors.

It’s been low 90’s here, but beautiful sunny days.


40 posted on 05/23/2014 2:13:28 PM PDT by rightly_dividing ( I have always wished that my computer was as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true.)
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To: metmom

Good Deal! I am going to try to get a bunch of direct seeding done this weekend too.


41 posted on 05/23/2014 2:14:51 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have transplanted trees in all seasons, but it is better to wait until they go dormant in the fall.


42 posted on 05/23/2014 2:15:36 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: knarf

Well, did you get the ping? If so you are on the list. If you didn’t get the ping, and you would like to be on the list let me know.


43 posted on 05/23/2014 2:15:54 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Sarajevo
She makes pretty bread. I say that as a professional.

/johnny

44 posted on 05/23/2014 2:17:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Hubby has been doing that every day for about a week and a half-after he has already poured concrete and finished it. LOL


45 posted on 05/23/2014 2:17:36 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The taters need hilled and the seeds and seedlings need planted. Other than that the garden’s great lol!


46 posted on 05/23/2014 2:18:23 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’ve been thinking about you and wondering if you were okay.

Glad to hear you’re getting your hands in the dirt.

I think you will be happy with your store bought drip system.


47 posted on 05/23/2014 2:21:28 PM PDT by rightly_dividing ( I have always wished that my computer was as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Will add you and welcome. What towns are your gardens close to? Does someone help you with the garden that is 150 miles away?


48 posted on 05/23/2014 2:23:01 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Here in Southern NH the lettuce and peas have been in for two weeks. Tomatoes ( trying single stem on a few this year to preserve garden space ) go in tomorrow. Other plantings will also happen. Sunday, church, then we’ll hit a town parade and visit some of the family grave sites. Monday, fly fishing in the morning and back in the garden all afternoon. Each day topped off with some icy cold local brew.

I’ve been looking forward to this weekend for a long time.


49 posted on 05/23/2014 2:23:53 PM PDT by rights with responsibilities
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To: JRandomFreeper

Hi Johnny,

A few years back I got about 25 truck loads from Maxwell AFB, which has a large composting facility... Mandated by various green laws to compost stuff rather then throwing it out.

Well, I didn’t know to what extent Maxwell sprays all their beautiful lawns and the golf course, but they run through thousands of gallons of Round-Up and other poisons a year... I ruined a series of raised beds I made.

I also got a bad infestation of Yellow Nutsedge I am still fighting.

Free compost is great, but please, I strongly urge you to find out what it is made from and what chemicals they’ve used on the plants before grinding.


50 posted on 05/23/2014 2:25:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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