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My No-Soap, No-Shampoo, Bacteria-Rich Hygiene Experiment
NY Times ^ | 5/22/14 | Julia Scott

Posted on 05/24/2014 10:34:51 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant

Summary: The writer is one of several subjects who go 28 days using a probiotic spray instead of using soap, shampoo and deodorant. It is a slow-growing, ammonia-oxidizing bacteria that competes with other bacteria on the skin. The result is healthier skin, free of breakouts. It is longer-lasting than, but not as acutely effective as, a recent traditional cleaning with soap. The friendly bacteria is useful for wound-healing and skin ailments, such as eczema. It causes a hundred-fold reduction in Propionibacterium acnes, which are often blamed for acne breakouts.

The writer had improved skin health, some unpleasant body odor and greasy hair, but no foot odor. After the experiment, the healthy bacteria was killed off after 3 traditional showers with soap. The inventor of the spray (branded "AOBiome") is an MIT-trained chemical engineer who has not showered for the past 12 years. He came up with the idea while trying to determine why horses like to roll in dirt.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bacteria; hygiene; probiotics
To some extent, the writer's improved skin health could be because she was not using chemical products during the experiment.

In my opinion, this bacteria strain is not hardy enough to replace soap, but it would be worth trying for acne or other skin issues.

By the way, if you want an effective alternative to regular aluminum-based deodorants, you should check out a long-lasting zinc-based deodorant from Israel called "Lavilin." And if you have acne, you could experiment with Lavilin as a skin treatment.

1 posted on 05/24/2014 10:34:51 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“an MIT-trained chemical engineer who has not showered for the past 12 years.”

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Just yuck.


2 posted on 05/24/2014 10:36:53 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“The writer had improved skin health, some unpleasant body odor and greasy hair, but no foot odor.”

Ever seen or smelled a hippie?

There ya go!


3 posted on 05/24/2014 10:38:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
I now make my own deodorant -a combination of coconut oil, corn starch, baking soda and tea tree oil.

Works better than anything I have ever used in the past. It took about two weeks for my body to adjust, during which time I had some odor, but it was nowhere near the stink that comes from not using anything.

4 posted on 05/24/2014 10:40:46 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
“an MIT-trained chemical engineer who has not showered for the past 12 years.”

He applied to Berkeley, but they require at least 13 years without a shower.

(just kidding)

5 posted on 05/24/2014 10:40:47 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant
The writer had improved skin health, some unpleasant body odor and greasy hair, but no foot odor.

A NYTwit with b.o., who'dathunkit.

6 posted on 05/24/2014 10:42:00 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Whateva dude....smell ya later.


7 posted on 05/24/2014 10:43:08 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

***Ever seen or smelled a hippie?***

I remember, back in 1971, seeing Hippies wearing flea collars.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 10:43:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The soap companies and deodorant companies are not going to like this ... :-) ...


9 posted on 05/24/2014 10:46:22 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Mygirlsmom
coconut oil is the secret ingredient to many good things... i rinse my mouth with it every day--nice white teeth! i slather it on my hair once a week... healthy and shiny! put all over my skin a couple of times a week... smooth, soft... i also cook with it... really good for frying tortilla chips...

btw, i could never give up taking showers... they are so refreshing...

10 posted on 05/24/2014 10:53:46 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

that is disgusting!!!


11 posted on 05/24/2014 10:54:23 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Simply eliminating certain types of bacteria but leaving the substrate the bacteria grew on - the sweat, oil, dirt and other crud - is not an acceptable alternative for me. I’ll stick with the soap.


12 posted on 05/24/2014 10:57:54 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Hippies would literally get the mange.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 10:59:20 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: latina4dubya

I use coconut oil to pop my popcorn. It’s the best popcorn, ever!

Not sure how you’d rinse your mouth with it, though. Is it a different kind than out of the jar?


14 posted on 05/24/2014 10:59:28 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

http://www.juliascott.net/about/


15 posted on 05/24/2014 11:03:29 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Eww. So I guess the ny slimes is advocating yet another devolution into feudalism. This time by encouraging people not to bathe. What’s next? Are they going to advocate bleedings and leeches to remove the evil humors?


16 posted on 05/24/2014 11:11:22 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Whitlock thought about how much horses sweat in the summer. He wondered whether the animals managed their sweat by engaging in dirt bathing. Could there be a kind of “good” bacteria in the dirt that fed off perspiration?

Now, pigs don't sweat. Why do THEY like to roll in the dirt?
17 posted on 05/24/2014 11:14:05 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Well there is a logic to it.

We have bacteria on our inside (the digestive track) that Is necessary...so why not on the outside?

All animals have skin but none but us (and our pets) bath and used all the cleaning products we use..

Now we do wear clothing and shoes so that would tend interfere with a natural environment on our skin...

But just like killing off all bacteria in you digestive track is unhealthy. .so too on you skin?...could be

Really.....think about it

Your skin cover with some natural bacteria that been their from the dawn of Man ?....

Or

Your skin covered with chemicals. .poison to kill bacteria ...that were invented in the last hundred years...

Which is healthier?

18 posted on 05/24/2014 11:27:14 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: tophat9000

-— Your skin covered with chemicals. .poison to kill bacteria ...that were invented in the last hundred years...

Which is healthier? -—

There may be problens with chemicals, but it doesn’t make sense to reject modern methods of hygiene out of hand, considering its track record.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 11:30:39 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“The inventor of the spray (branded “AOBiome”) is an MIT-trained chemical engineer who has not showered for the past 12 years.”

How about good old fashioned “dirt” removal. This is disgusting.


20 posted on 05/24/2014 11:36:12 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Jane Long
Is it a different kind than out of the jar?

right out of the jar... it is called oil pulling... i also, on occasion, brush my teeth with it and baking soda together...

21 posted on 05/24/2014 11:39:23 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

A steaming hot shower for 5 minutes. Dove soap and shampoo products. Followed by a 1 minute ice cold shower.

A shpritz of Arrid under each put and I am ready to go.

Why change something that has worked for many years?


22 posted on 05/24/2014 12:04:18 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: tophat9000
"Your skin covered with chemicals. .poison to kill bacteria ...that were invented in the last hundred years..

Which is healthier?"

Don't know, but I plan to continue embracing the "chemicals and poison." I like being clean.

23 posted on 05/24/2014 12:12:47 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Dr. Sivana
"Now, pigs don't sweat. Why do THEY like to roll in the dirt?"

My cat rolls in dirt.

Had a dog that rolled in dirt usually on something smelly.

Animals roll because they can and it's fun.

They also wear fur.

24 posted on 05/24/2014 12:21:18 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I quit washing my face and 30 years of acne cleared up. I mean that I went from constant acne treatments and flare-ups to zero zits. None.

Once a month I do have to exfoliate (gently) to clear dead skin. That’s it.

If only I’d know that it was so simple.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 1:03:53 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Got a recipe or link for that? They discontinued my ol’ reliable and I want to go natural.


26 posted on 05/24/2014 1:06:31 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: UnwashedPeasant; JRandomFreeper

Don’t be offended Johnny, ya’ know I love you, but when I saw this thread I thought of you in experimental mode.


27 posted on 05/24/2014 1:40:35 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: MomwithHope
Even in -18F winter weather, when I was doing the mountain man thing, I managed to wash my long, luxurious hair, and clean the dirt and stench from my body.

Mind you, I didn't linger... standing on the porch pouring warm water over a naked body with temps at -18F will make one rush a bit, so that nothing important freezes off.

/johnny

28 posted on 05/24/2014 1:44:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I used to stand on a farmhouse back porch and do the well pump cold gallon jug shower too. But not in those temps. Long luxurious hair??? Now we really need a picture, post it on the gardening thread. You have so many fans.


29 posted on 05/24/2014 1:47:05 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: headstamp 2

There is no need to reinvent the wheel with a new product.

I use baking soda wash for my hair, two or three times, and rinse really well, then use 1 tbls of apple cider vinegar in 1 qt water for rinse. Wonderful. PH balance is restored.

I still use deodorant, but looking for an alternative. I have sensitive skin. And I do agree hygeine is important.

Think about it...just what do you think your ancestors used 200 years ago....it wasn’t bottled shampoo from the grocery store. Homemade Lye soap was damaging to the skin...it would wash clothes, but I would not want to bathe in it.


30 posted on 05/24/2014 1:54:47 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Lavilin...deodorant...where do you buy that? I have used dead sea makeup before, very expensive. I don’t use much now.

I believe baking soda, apple cider vinegar, hydrogen peroxide (food grade),olive oil and coconut oil etc. are some of the most important ingredients in our houses.


31 posted on 05/24/2014 2:02:54 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Dr. Sivana

Pigs like to roll in mud because as the water in the mud evaporates it cools them. Just as if they did sweat.


32 posted on 05/24/2014 2:04:10 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: latina4dubya

I brush with baking soda too. Our ancestors used baking soda for soap and there are hundreds of uses for it...as well as apple cider vinegar, or hydrogen peroxide.


33 posted on 05/24/2014 2:09:59 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
You can get Lavilin deodorant at Amazon.com or many local health-food stores.

I tried coconut oil (without corn starch, arrow root, etc.), and it worked great for a month or so. Then it stopped working completely. So you might have to use extra ingredients to keep it working.

Lavilin works great, but it is pricey. So it is worth trying coconut oil first.

34 posted on 05/24/2014 2:17:23 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Thanks


35 posted on 05/24/2014 2:24:46 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
as well as apple cider vinegar, or hydrogen peroxide.

i use these products as well! i actually add two tablespoons of raw apple cider vinegar to black current juice every morning (M-F) and drink it... i also take a glass of water with juice from half a lemon every morning (again, M-F)... this has helped me with fighting off chronic sore throats and just about any illness that starts in the throat/nose...

36 posted on 05/24/2014 2:28:03 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Why change something that has worked for many years?

i see no need to...

37 posted on 05/24/2014 2:32:28 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

>> ...smell ya later.

LOL — that’s a classic one-liner.


38 posted on 05/24/2014 2:37:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Marie
Recipe here.
39 posted on 05/24/2014 3:01:46 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
The friendly bacteria ...

This is an old idea. Note 1939 copyright:


40 posted on 05/24/2014 3:01:58 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Just in time for Occupy Wall Street’s reboot...


41 posted on 05/24/2014 4:10:37 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Marie

I quit washing my and my wife of 20 years left me - if only I’d known it was so easy


42 posted on 05/24/2014 6:58:35 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"Ever seen or smelled a hippie?" pepe le pew photo: pepe le pew pepe.jpg
43 posted on 05/24/2014 7:12:03 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: latina4dubya

For ear aches we use a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in the ear, and it kills all germs...no more earache....a staple for years in this family, saves Doctor visits. Do not swallow and rinse out mouth...of course ‘food grade’ hydrogen peroxide should be fine.

The great uses of Appple Cider Vinegar are really extensive. I use the white vinegar to clean coffee pot, and windows to keep streak free and no expensive window cleaners to buy.

WE do a parasite cleanse every year, using Dr. Clark’s (Clarkia)formula. I understand the main manufacturing plant closed, so it will be harder and more expensive to get now. That always helps with sinus and colds through out the year. The FDA is trying to get rid of alternatives to pharmaceuticals...more propaganda and costs to us.


44 posted on 05/25/2014 4:37:54 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
I use the white vinegar to clean coffee pot,

i run white vinegar mixed with water through the coffee maker every so often... i have had the same coffee maker since 1995!

45 posted on 05/25/2014 5:14:45 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

Makes sense doesn’t it? Glad to hear others realize that alternatives and natural substances aren’t a right or left issue, just common sense.


46 posted on 05/25/2014 12:54:58 PM PDT by Kackikat
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