What Gun Control Would Have Worked (vanity)

(none) | May 25, 2014 | Self

[BobL]

I've been trying to think of all the post-Sandy Hook gun control legislation that has been proposed (some of it passed), and I can't think of a single piece of legislation that would have stopped him. The only thing that I can come up with is a complete ban on handguns. What would not have helped:

1) Expanded background checks - he legally bought the guns - gun show, private buyer, no difference - they checked on him.

2) Gun Registration - all handguns are registered in California, and I assume his too, as he legally owned them

3) Smaller Magazines - I don't have enough details, but likely not

4) Smart Guns - They were his legal guns and he would have been the authorized mass killer

5) Preventing nuts from owning guns - Nope, he had enough sense not to get mixed up in the "mental health" system.

6) Waiting period - California already has something like 2 weeks before you take ownership of the gun you just bought.

7) Assault Weapons - Sorry, not used

Bottom line, no matter what they say, their end game has to be to take our guns (and we always knew that).

[logic101.net]

One law that would have prevented all these murders would have been to require everyone to be armed in public. These cowards crave the feeling of power over defenseless people. If all the victims could shoot back they would have no power.

[smokingfrog]

There’s nothing much that prevents you from lying when you fill out Form 4473 to purchase a firearm. The threat of spending 5 years in prison is not much of a deterrent if you’re planning to murder a bunch of people.

[livius]

No, but there’s a database of felons and other people (such as some of the mentally ill) that the gun dealer no doubt checked. This guy wasn’t on it.

The Sandy Hook killer wasn’t on the list because his mother had bought him the guns. She tried to lock them up later, realizing that even she couldn’t deny that he was a homicidal maniac, and he killed her to get them.

If you don’t think it’s going to be a problem that this most recent killer bought his guns legally in his own name from a legitimate dealer who no doubt checked the criminal registries, you’re burying your head in the sand.

[Yosemitest]

NONE !

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

The Second Amendment IS Pro-Life.

"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these:
First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;
together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.
These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,
commonly called the first law of nature...
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights;
when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution,
is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right,
the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,
it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave."




-- Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.

Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the "2nd Amendment Haters" faces.

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .

[smokingfrog]

It only matters in the liberal mind if he got his guns legally or otherwise. What matters is that he had evil intent and acted on it. No law can prevent it.

[School of Rational Thought]

Forgot something very important.

He bought and registered the firearm BEFORE the cops showed up to interview because of the already posted videos.

Nothing happened.

[Codeflier]

He is saying if the suggested law changes from the Sandy Hook response had all been implemented, this would have still happened in CA.

[SgtBob]

Post #29...

[Teacher317]

which in this case he did...knife and car. This situation is not a good one for the gun control nazis.

But the MSM desperately wants it to be... his original target, after his roommates, was UCSB Alpha Phi sorority... coverage of the extremely beautiful girls there would have helped their ratings, plus would have helped the narrative that white people only care when pretty white (and Asian) girls get hurt.

Those are some of the pretty blonde girls that Eliot couldn't get, so he decided to kill dozens of innocents instead, to make his point.

[Codeflier]

I see now. I was just going by the “new posts to you”. Thanks.

[taxmanguy]

Good comment! However, there are too many liberals in the land, and none of them understand reason, facts or logic. Little do they know, that they will be the cannon fodder for the elites if and when the PEOPLE decide to take their country back from these usurpers.

[taxmanguy]

Also look to Canada. They are gun paranoid, and the gun control legislation only served to make criminals of ordinary citizens (who refused to allow their arms to be confiscated, which is the end goal of gun control), and virtually ALL the gun crime is committed by thugs that don’t register their guns anyway.