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Lupica: Santa Barbara rampage shows it's too easy to get guns that make mass murder easier
nydailynews.com ^ | May 26, 2014 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 05/26/2014 4:57:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

Lupica: Santa Barbara rampage shows it's too easy to get guns that make mass murder easier There are no sure safeguards against madness, but it does not change the fact that it's too simple for sick people to get guns — legally or illegally — especially the kinds of semiautomatic weapons that Elliot Rodger used in his shooting rampage in Isla Vista, Calif

So this is Memorial Day in 2014, when we are supposed to remember and honor those who died serving this country and end up mourning the latest to die at the hands of a madman with guns in America, this time in Isla Vista, Calif., near the campus of the University of California at Santa Barbara. Once again, the only true gun control in America is when the shooter finally puts one of his guns to his own head and blows his own brains out. Wayne LaPierre, the gun nut who runs the National Rifle Association and is so often the face and voice of that association, likes to say that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, as if the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the late Dawn Hochsprung, could have saved herself and those children if she’d just been packing.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: agitprop; banglist; elliotrodger; guns
He calls Wayne LaPierre a nut but not this psychotic NUT Elliot Roger who should have been in a straight jacket locked up in his local psyche ward nowhere near the public.
1 posted on 05/26/2014 4:57:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Need to regulate those Assault Knives and BMW’s too.


2 posted on 05/26/2014 5:00:02 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Mike Lupica oughtta stick to writing about sports.


3 posted on 05/26/2014 5:00:20 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It is too easy to find a place where you would have a gun, and no one else does. Aside from mental illness, that is the one thing that most mass shootings have in common.


4 posted on 05/26/2014 5:04:37 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Oh no….next we’ll have to hear another lecture by Bob Costas on guns. Thank goodness he doesn’t cover basketball games.


5 posted on 05/26/2014 5:04:50 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

we should talk about why we don’t lock up the mentally ill the way we used to. But no, we have to be liberal, and liberals don’t want to address that aspect of things. What these mass killers have in common is mental illness, but, the liberals refuse tp talk about that. They only talk about weapons used.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 5:04:59 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Here’s another NUT who stabbed to death her 3 kids. So I suppose Lupica is going to call Russ Kommer a nut.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-woman-charged-murdering-kids-attempting-murder-mother-article-1.1803878


7 posted on 05/26/2014 5:05:11 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Stick to sports Lupica.
The logic plays out clearly...
-Guns are dangerous so people shouldn’t have them.
Make laws to restrict gun ownership.
-People continue to get and use guns.
Make more laws to outlaw guns.
-People continue to get and use guns.
Make thinking about guns, biting pop tarts into the shape of guns, seeing cloud formations that look like guns, illegal.

Eventually good people get and use guns to stop the madness.


8 posted on 05/26/2014 5:09:34 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

What about those of us not sick that would defend against such warped minds, no chance for us.


9 posted on 05/26/2014 5:09:55 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

What kind of gun did this Rodger nut basket use?


10 posted on 05/26/2014 5:10:54 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I guess leftist bozos really need no excuses to drumbeat for more gun control but maybe this time they are particularly peeved because it is the child of a Hollywood figure? Maybe because it didn’t happen in the inner city of Chicago or the armpits of Washington DC that liberals notice gun violence? This one hit too close to home because it’s a place full of liberals committed by a liberal?

Not sure I understand the angst about this particular event.


11 posted on 05/26/2014 5:11:21 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Exactly, we don’t have a gun problem in this country. We have a mental illness problem. Every single one of the shootings was done by people with mental issues and what liberals fail to realize that if these nuts didn’t use guns they would use other methods, the worst being fire. Would liberals prefer these nuts burn people alive? That happened a few years ago here in New York city, this nut made himself a homemade flamethrower and burned a woman alive in an elevator.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/nyregion/woman-burned-alive-in-brooklyn-elevator.html

What needs to happen is we need to reevaluate how people with mental issues are dealt with in this country. After every shooting, killing, NOBODY talks about that. Once again 100% of the focus is given to the NRA as if the mentally ill are all going to behave themselves if the NRA goes away.


12 posted on 05/26/2014 5:11:42 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Availability of guns may be a very small part of this story, but lets be serious for once on this issue.

Ask any actor or director what they enjoy most about their profession and they will most likely tell you they enjoy the opportunity to affect people and change society through their art....or something like that. In any case, if they believe that than it simply follows that violent movies, song lyrics, and video games also affect people. In fact, a much stronger and more compeeling case can be made that our entertaininment industry motivates mass killings much more than the NRA.

I’m calling this latest idiot the “Hunger Games Killer.”


13 posted on 05/26/2014 5:18:35 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Well, you psycho socialists cannot have the guns while there are socialists in America.

Period. Cry all you want, try to control yourselves instead.

14 posted on 05/26/2014 5:19:45 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

after we had some liberal judge order the release of these people, saying that they have a right to be crazy and on the street.


15 posted on 05/26/2014 5:19:50 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Exactly, we don’t have a gun problem in this country. We have a mental illness problem.

That would clearly make this a socialist/democrat problem.

16 posted on 05/26/2014 5:20:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Lupica, I like your sports analysis, but you are a child of the sixties like all of your current breathren running this country. Whinning and crying, your generation created a lot of great music and loosened up everyone a bit about sex, but you guys are terrible leaders!!! Not one of you understands personal responsibility or knows how to run a calculator. Everything is the other guys fault and the other guys problem. Your ‘greatest generation’ parents were wound too tight, I’ll give you that, but when are you gonna stop rebelling against the ‘those in charge’ and accept that you are in charge....which means acting like an adult.....not an arrogant 19 year old punk. I can’t wait to get mature reasonable people back in charge of this country again....and unfortunately it means people like you have to retire and go away to make that happen.


17 posted on 05/26/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Kozak

Lupica must own a BMW.

They must be worse than SUVs when it comes to going out and killing people, but Lupica seeks to divert our attention!


18 posted on 05/26/2014 5:27:44 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Mr. Lupica is just another lying liberal.

Lupica totally ignores the murders using knives and the car while focusing solely on firearms.....proof that he is a hypocrite!

Lupica does not talk about the failures of gov’t....mental health laws and, in this case, the failure of police.

Lupica talks about mass killings but fails to tell anyone that in almost 100% of the cases, the police never stopped the shooter.

Mr. Lupica selectively chooses details while ignoring others.

That makes him just another lying liberal.


19 posted on 05/26/2014 5:27:49 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

He sat next to pedophile Bill Conlin for years on his stupid, preachy Sunday morning show - and then lectured everyone that would listen that jerry sandusky was enabled by people w/ more character in their little finger than in his entire body.

He also never uttered a peep about espn sitting on the bernie fine tape until the statute of limitations ran out.

He’s perfect media - liberal, fake, fraud, hypocrite.


20 posted on 05/26/2014 5:38:25 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Erik Latranyi

People kill people!

I have not killed anyone and have access to guns. (as soon as I can get them from the bottom of the lake)


21 posted on 05/26/2014 5:39:25 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: dinodino

A Glock 34 and a SIG Sauer P226


22 posted on 05/26/2014 5:41:10 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Good points. The liberals don’t understand that the mentally ill and deranged people will find other ways to do violence. They will not refrain from deranged acts if they don’t have a gun.

News reports from Santa Barbara are ignoring that the perpetrator stabbed 3 people and ran somebody over with his car.


23 posted on 05/26/2014 5:59:12 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: Rodamala

I’ve never heard of Mike Lupica, but if this emotional liberal thinks it’s easy to purchase a firearm in either California or New York City he’s deluding himself.....although I’m sure the gang bangers have no trouble getting firearms illegally.


24 posted on 05/26/2014 6:17:51 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Mike is a very "well-respected" sports columnist for the New York Daily News, a paper I wouldn't wipe my ass with. This isn't Mike's first time using his column as a soapbox to grab your guns.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ar-15-rifle-sport-hunting-humans-article-1.1458039

25 posted on 05/26/2014 6:52:02 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If you locked up the mentally ill you would have to lock up about 90% of liberals, and no I’m not joking.

Very few liberals have an actual thought process to reach a conclusion.

They reach their conclusions strictly on emotions.

Liberals basically have the mind of a child in their thought process.


26 posted on 05/26/2014 6:57:19 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Rodamala
This guy's portrait is a composite of the face of every liberal journalist/academic/bureaucrat/metrosexual and wanna-be fascist I've ever met.

Note the steely-eyed, smug, arrogant, "I know better than you, peasants" look on the face.

Leni

27 posted on 05/26/2014 7:07:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

yeah I’m sure the culture of moral bankruptcy and violence perpetuated by Hollywood and Entertainment companies have nothing to do with people acting out real life scenarios that seem to mirror HOLLYWOOD movies and video games. I doubt powerful anti psychotic drugs being administered to a large percentage of young boys has anything to do with it either. Gimme a frickin break.


28 posted on 05/26/2014 7:23:36 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Guns legal in Cali-check.
Guns pass Cali safety rules-check.
BATF forms filled out-check.
10 day waiting period completed-check.
NICS required background checks done-check.
10 round magazine rule observed-check.

So how did it work out for you all in Santa Barbara!

And it all began with three stabbing deaths.


29 posted on 05/26/2014 7:36:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: MinuteGal
Yeah... he has a certain Alan Alda look to him, don't he? Notwithstanding his liberal soapbox douchebaggery, he is an excellent sportswriter. I would love to hear what Don Imus has to say to him the next time Mike calls in to the show.
30 posted on 05/26/2014 7:39:48 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
We need knife control now....


31 posted on 05/26/2014 7:43:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I thought Lupica was a sportswriter and a bad one at that. Why doesn’t he go play footsies with Costas?


32 posted on 05/26/2014 8:04:12 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Once again, the only true gun control in America is when the shooter finally puts one of his guns to his own head and blows his own brains out.

No. Cops with guns finally had him cornered ending his spree. That he shot himself was after the fact. Guns whether in the hands of cops or individuals often stop criminal activity. These psycho murderers plan their actions and part of the plan is to head for gun-free zones.

Also the guns used in this rampage aren't on anyone's list to be banned except maybe the most fervent anti gun nuts. As far as easy to get, if the guy didn't have a criminal or psychiatric record what is Lupica proposing?

33 posted on 05/26/2014 8:16:32 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Lupica would have curled up in a ball and pissed his pants if he was the principal of Sandy Hook. That's why he can't believe the principal could have saved lives if she had a gun in her hand. An armed principal would have presented that faggot Lanza with a challenge instead of just a target. Lupica is a coward.
34 posted on 05/26/2014 10:24:00 AM PDT by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

So the Hollywierdo father says that his spawn would not have gone on the killing spree if there were more gun laws.

Father blames government ‘idiots’ as California town mourns killings
Reuters
By Dana Feldman 2 hours ago

“Martinez said his son died because Congress had failed to act after a mentally ill gunman killed 26 people in December 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

“These people are getting rich sitting in Congress. And what do they do? They don’t take care of our kids,” he said.”


35 posted on 05/26/2014 11:09:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I mistook the news story that the person wanting more gun laws was the father of one of the victims instead of the father of the killer..


36 posted on 05/26/2014 11:16:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Rodamala
I would love to hear what Don Imus has to say to him the next time Mike calls in to the show.

Imus isn't any better than Lupica. Just another rich guy who has body guards.

FMCDH(BITS)

37 posted on 05/26/2014 11:51:37 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

FU ML. A worthless gun grabber. Too bad you didn’t take the bullet.


38 posted on 05/26/2014 12:44:24 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Or rather a harsh reminder that the war between Heaven and Hades is made visable from time to time in horific mass shootings.

What we are seeing is demonic controled folks.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 4:03:49 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: KeyLargo

Got your fathers mixed up. His son, Christopher Martinez, was one of the UCSB students shot.

Steve


40 posted on 05/27/2014 8:53:12 PM PDT by ha maker (Sanity for lurkers)
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