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TOP TEN PRESIDENTS ACCORDING TO WATCHMOJO.COM

Posted on 05/27/2014 8:15:45 AM PDT by 7thson

There is an internet site called WatchMojo.com. It has numerous top ten videos - top 10 Queen songs, top 10 nominated actors who never won an oscar , top ten Marvel movies, etc. I like going there to see various top 10 lists and such.

Yesterday while browsing through it, they had a Top 10 U.S. Presidents. I watched it to see if I would be disappointed and to no surprise, I was. Why?

Two things. One - President Reagan was not in their top 10. They had one term James Polk in there - #8 I believe - but no Reagan. The top 3 were #1 Lincoln, #2 FDR, #3 Washington. Second thing - when talking about FDR, they repeat the propaganda that FDR's government intervention and policies ended the Great Depression.

I may still go there from time to time, but it is disheartening to see the statists take over everything.


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1 posted on 05/27/2014 8:15:45 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

Last year, there was a poll of the American people ranking the Presidents. Reagan was Number One - as WF Buckley once said, “I would rather be ruled by the first one hundred names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty.”


2 posted on 05/27/2014 8:17:36 AM PDT by laconic
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To: 7thson

WWII ended FDR’s depression.


3 posted on 05/27/2014 8:18:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 7thson

Link?


4 posted on 05/27/2014 8:18:35 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 7thson

RE: FDR

Did they give their reasons why?


5 posted on 05/27/2014 8:19:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: 7thson

Why was Lincoln #1?

Because he waged war to prevent free men from leaving a Union they voluntarily joined?


6 posted on 05/27/2014 8:21:00 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Gaffer

All FDR basically did was continue the policies already initiated by Hoover.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 8:21:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 7thson
FDR was the most overrated president ever. His policies prolonged, not shortened the great depression. Even his much praised leadership in World War II did, in the end, do little but turn Russia from a backwater minor power into a Superpower.

The rehabilitation of Japan, for instance, was due almost entirely to MacArthur's leadership and the resiliency of the Japanese people and had nothing to do with FDR and his successors other than getting out of the way long enough so MacArthur could accomplish what he did.

8 posted on 05/27/2014 8:21:59 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dfwgator
Actually, he out-Hoovered Hoover by a magnitude of 10 or more.
9 posted on 05/27/2014 8:23:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 7thson

Japan ended the Great Depression....................


10 posted on 05/27/2014 8:25:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: dfwgator

I’d say he doubled down on it myself with the WPA, CCC, etc.


11 posted on 05/27/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Vigilanteman
FDR was the most overrated president ever.

He may be in 2nd place, now.......................

12 posted on 05/27/2014 8:26:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Red Badger

And Hitler, by basically leaving every industrialized nation, other than the US, completely destroyed. The US was the only industrialized nation standing after the war.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 8:26:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gaffer

From what I remember on the subject the depression ended because the New Deal had run its course with regards to money being spent and courts overturning FDR’s “laws” before WWII broke out.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 8:28:33 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: 7thson

George Washington should always be ranked #1 out of respect and by default. There is no question he was the greatest president bar none.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 8:30:23 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Vigilanteman

Wilson Most overrated.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 8:31:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 7thson

I bet Coolidge wasn’t there either, but of course did BJ get a rank?


17 posted on 05/27/2014 8:31:49 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind
FDR
Did they give their reasons why?

As you can probably guess, the narrator cited the New Deal and WWII.

18 posted on 05/27/2014 8:32:37 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Because he waged war to prevent free men from leaving a Union they voluntarily joined?

When I tell people that they look at me like I just landed from another planet. What is it about the 10th amendment that is so difficult for people to understand?

The federal governments powers are listed to those 17 things listed in the Constitution.

19 posted on 05/27/2014 8:32:46 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertatrian)
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To: 7thson

Teddy Roosevelt would have been high on my list. Panama Canal, parks, etc.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 8:36:03 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: frogjerk

That is the way I feel about it. The more you learn about Washington (past all the stereotypical stuff) the more impressed you have to be.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 8:36:06 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: verga

I grant that you have a good legal position, but once the CSA fired on US positions then the Union had every right to invade as a foreign nation and committed a Casus belli. To be honest the CSA states were lucky to be treated as a rebellion instead of a foreign power for the most part.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 8:37:53 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: frogjerk
From what I remember on the subject the depression ended because the New Deal had run its course with regards to money being spent and courts overturning FDR’s “laws” before WWII broke out.

In his book Rethinking the Great Depression (Chicago: Dee, 2002), Gene Smiley argues that the Depression actually continued well into the 1940's and contends that those who would otherwise be unemployed were in uniform, which created an illusion of prosperity. He argues that the Depression didn't really end until the government downsized itself after the war, when much of the New Deal and the wartime regulatory agencies were scrapped.

23 posted on 05/27/2014 8:43:31 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: rlmorel
That is the way I feel about it. The more you learn about Washington (past all the stereotypical stuff) the more impressed you have to be.

providence most definitely... "for such a time as this..."

24 posted on 05/27/2014 8:46:05 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Lincoln # 1? Lincoln's administration took the power of the Senate away from State Governors. Making the states weaker and the Federal Gubmnet much more powerful.
25 posted on 05/27/2014 8:47:40 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: 7thson

1 Washington - Duh.

2 Jefferson

3 Lincoln - Despite many misgivings, a lesser person would have really used the moment to become a dictator.

4 Reagan

5 Coolidge

6 Jackson - For preventing an early version of the Fed from materializing.

7 Eisenhower

8 TR - Before he became an insane “progressive”.

9 Monroe

10 Ted Cruz (place on list subject to change as events unfold)


26 posted on 05/27/2014 8:47:51 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Gaffer

The end of WWII brought it back!

FDR was an incredibly failed POTUS!


27 posted on 05/27/2014 8:48:13 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Gaffer
WWII ended FDR’s depression.

Actually, the war based economy was a false economy one dependent on government deficit spending and a depletion of the work force as a result of military service. The economy did not rebound on its own merits until well after WWII.

28 posted on 05/27/2014 8:53:28 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison)
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To: 7thson
Hmmm, would have to be:
1) Obama
2) Carter
(3) Wilson
4) LBJ
(5) Clinton (Mr)
(6) Clinton (Mrs)
(7) FDR
(8) Buchanan
(9) Cleveland
(10) Harding
29 posted on 05/27/2014 8:59:51 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Gaffer

Well, FDR did his damnedest to get us into WWII, so does that count?


30 posted on 05/27/2014 9:03:11 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

How do we avoid getting into WWII?


31 posted on 05/27/2014 9:04:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: verga

You mean the list of negative rights our Benevolent Omnipresent Messiah talked about?

(do I need /sarc?)


32 posted on 05/27/2014 9:26:39 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Wait, after WWII, the government actually ended some agencies? Is that the first time in its history?


33 posted on 05/27/2014 9:28:26 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: wastedyears

I made sure I swallowed my soda before I clicked on your post, and it was a good thing I did.


34 posted on 05/27/2014 9:44:50 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertatrian)
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To: VanDeKoik

I disagree with Jefferson at number 2. His self imposed economic boycott of France and the UK nearly brought the country to ruin. It was one mistake, but boy was it a big one.


35 posted on 05/27/2014 9:52:07 AM PDT by gusty
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To: VanDeKoik

Your list resonates.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 10:22:36 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: gusty

Jefferson had the vision of the country and he took giant steps to implement that. He was a great mana and a great president.

I remember JFK’s quote when he had some of his cabinet and advisors at the dinner table. “This is the most brain power we’ve had in this room since Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”


37 posted on 05/27/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: 7thson
TOP TEN PRESIDENTS ACCORDING TO WATCHMOJO.COM
I may still go there from time to time, but it is disheartening to see the statists take over everything.

You got to be kidding me.
Who goes to these sites? The clueless, the zero information doofuses.

The ones who ask, when purchasing something, "which one do you think I should get?"

Lists are arbitrary and a reflection of the person assembling it. Ignorant or informed, it's all the same. People who play that game never need to give any reason for their choices, cogent or otherwise.
Polls are collections of opinions. I have mine.

Who are the top ten presidents?
I can compile a list, but to what end?
What everyone else thinks, I couldn't care less.

38 posted on 05/27/2014 10:34:44 AM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Everything you say is correct. I’m just saying that Jefferson’s policy in regards with trade with Europe nearly ruined the country economically, and it was self imposed. A mistake of this magnitude should not be rewarded with a high ranking.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 10:37:54 AM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty
Everything you say is correct. I’m just saying that Jefferson’s policy in regards with trade with Europe nearly ruined the country economically, and it was self imposed. A mistake of this magnitude should not be rewarded with a high ranking.

A matter of opinion. "nearly" only counts in horseshoes and atomic hand grenades.
Without the Louisiana Purchase the U.S. as history will know it, would not exist. I won't give reasons, but any informed adult would be able to figure that out.

In comparison, all "mistakes" pale by comparison.

40 posted on 05/27/2014 10:51:29 AM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: 7thson
Poll ranks Odumbo as fifth greatest president:

Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan tied for first

The next 17 tied for second.

The next 23 tied for third

Jimmie Carter came in fourth

Barack Insane Odumbo came in fifth.

41 posted on 05/27/2014 1:55:06 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: 7thson
"Top Ten" anything is a sign that it's not to be taken seriously.

That was supposed to be the point of the film and book High Fidelity -- that guys rate things from 1 to 10 as a way of thinking that we've imposed order on the disorder that is life.

If forced to rate the presidents, I'd put Washington at number one. I can understand their rating Lincoln and FDR highly. It's more a matter of our making it through devastating crises that could have destroyed the country or turned it into a dictatorship, though, than anything else. Reagan would certainly have to be in the top ten.

42 posted on 05/27/2014 2:15:31 PM PDT by x
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To: 7thson

Over the years, have seen many top ten presidents lists.
Generally, the top three are George, Abe and Franklin.
Which order depends on the poll. IMO these three had the greatest effect on this country. People are free to argue the merits or demerits of those effects. But one cannot deny that the presidencies of these men drastically altered the course of American History. JMO


43 posted on 05/28/2014 5:04:10 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: X Fretensis

I agree. Each of those men changed the course of this nation. But it would be nice for those in charge of the poll to be somewhat honest - I know, wishful thinking - and say that FDR’s policies established a permanent welfare class in America and a change of thinking that government needs to do things for the welfare of the citizens, thus screwing up this nation for the last 70-80 years.


44 posted on 05/28/2014 6:39:02 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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