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Free Republic | 5-14-2014 | Red_devil 232

Posted on 05/27/2014 3:31:17 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232

I am a Vietnam era vet and will be visiting my local Veterans Out Patient clinic on Thursday morning for my initial evaluation. The out patient clinic contacted me last week to set up this first visit after having applied for it over seven month ago. I have a couple of health Issues; one is my right hip is giving me some serious problems and the other is a dental problem.

My question is what can I expect from this initial visit? They have me in their computer system and all the info I submitted. Do I need to bring extra info? DD214 etc?

I need all the info I may need to make this evaluation go smoothly.

I am also insured by my wife’s employer’s insurance policy and Medicare.

Just wondering if anyone has some constructive advice?


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1 posted on 05/27/2014 3:31:17 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: Red_Devil 232

Just my thoughts here as the same kind of Vet with no service connected disabilities but has the same hip and teeth problems......I’d imagine that since you’re already covered under your wife’s insurance, you’re likely not gonna get what you think you will.


2 posted on 05/27/2014 3:34:34 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good luck. I know nothing about the VA, but if you are facing a hip replacement, get your dental work done first. Once you have orthopedic replacement surgery, you will have to have a round of antibiotics before any dental work — even a cleaning.


3 posted on 05/27/2014 3:35:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Red_Devil 232
I am also insured by my wife’s employer’s insurance policy and Medicare.
If your problems are not service connected, why use the VA?
4 posted on 05/27/2014 3:35:41 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Take the DD-214 and your driver’s license, SS card and a utility bill to verify your address. Better to have more info then get there and find out they need something. Good Luck. We have had pretty good luck with care. Claims on the other hand, well that’s mixed.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 3:37:15 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Vanity - Vietnam Vet visiting my local ... I am a Vietnam era vet ...
Why do you identify yourself as a VN vet in the title if you were never in Vietnam?
6 posted on 05/27/2014 3:39:30 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Well I don’t know what service they can or will offer. That is one reason why Iam doing this. The other is my wife insists!


7 posted on 05/27/2014 3:43:11 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: oh8eleven

Because I was in VN Idiot!


8 posted on 05/27/2014 3:48:20 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232; Gaffer; oh8eleven

Agree with Gaffer, and oh8eleven. A claim will be filed against your wife’s insurance, and Mediscare....why not go to the best healthcare facility available?


9 posted on 05/27/2014 3:48:52 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

DD-214, Social Security Card, Drivers License, comfy seat cushion, good book.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 3:50:04 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Because I was in VN
Then why ID yourself as a "VN era" vet?
11 posted on 05/27/2014 3:52:35 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

PICKY, PICKY!


12 posted on 05/27/2014 3:53:51 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good afternoon.

I’m a Nam era Vet, service connected. No dental care. Depending on % service connected/disabled will determine what is/isn’t covered. Plus ins. and means testing.

Just a heads up, it is triage.

5.56mm


13 posted on 05/27/2014 3:54:13 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Red_Devil 232
The other is my wife insists!
With all the latest news about vets getting screwed, blued and tattooed by the VA and she still insists you go to the VA?
Good luck with that.
14 posted on 05/27/2014 3:55:46 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Red_Devil 232; oh8eleven
Because I was in VN Idiot!

Didn't ya mean ID10T? Gotta give a gun grape a break.

15 posted on 05/27/2014 3:56:06 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Dental I think is covered up to a year after you left service. The hip if it was caused by your military service may be covered. My brother in law flew in C130s during the 50s and lost most of his hearing a few years ago. It took awhile but he was able to get a service connected disability from it. He had to apply several times. Good luck


16 posted on 05/27/2014 3:57:33 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Red_Devil 232
PICKY, PICKY!
No, sensitive to the fact that the term was invented by non-VN vets.
Just like how non-VN vets are allowed to join the Vietnam Vets of America.
Stolen valor as far as I'm concerned.
17 posted on 05/27/2014 3:59:43 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SgtBob; Red_Devil 232
Gotta give a gun grape a break.
Cold day in hell when I need a break from a feckin' winger ... or you for that matter.
18 posted on 05/27/2014 4:02:51 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

I share your Concern.


19 posted on 05/27/2014 4:04:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: oh8eleven

Git over yer self...I’m an 0861, and I’ll rib a grape when I git a chance.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 4:06:52 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

If you are a career vet (lifer) what may be available to you may be different than what is available to me.

As a Vet who was not a lifer, in my case I can only get Dental for emergency dental work which means if I am in great pain due to a dental issue, and then there is a minimum co-pay, for me, of about $348 (if memory serves me right).

For a non-lifer with a non-service related issue there are co-pays which may depend on income level & whether or not the person has any health insurance coverage, independently or as a spouse &/or currently with Medicare - I think.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 4:09:43 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Gaffer; Red_Devil 232
The VA doesn't do dental if it's not service related, or you are rated disabled, but you can sign-up for a VA dental insurance plan. IMO, MetLife has the best plan...$3,000 yearly benefit for about $38 a month with no deductible. It's only available to vets who are enrolled in VA healthcare.

https://www.metlife.com/VADIP/index.html

22 posted on 05/27/2014 4:10:35 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

oh8eleven’s comment, rather question, is correct. There IS a distinction between “VietNam vet” and “VietNam era” vet. Obviously, the former means you served in country for a full tour or even part of a tour, while the latter (”era vet”) means you were in one of the military service branches during the time the VietNam war was in progress but DID NOT serve in country.


23 posted on 05/27/2014 4:10:43 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Red_Devil 232

The VA does not cover dental except for vets with service connected disabilities at a relatively high percentage of disability(Not sure exactly what it is but mine is 30% and I do not get dental) or a Purple Heart.


24 posted on 05/27/2014 4:43:38 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The term "Vietnam era vet" usually refers to someone who served during the period of the war but did not serve in country.
25 posted on 05/27/2014 4:47:18 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Bring whatever service dental records you have. Otherwise don’t expect any help there.


26 posted on 05/27/2014 4:52:48 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
My question is what can I expect from this initial visit? They have me in their computer system and all the info I submitted. Do I need to bring extra info? DD214 etc?

Since you have a computer I can only assume you have a phone........call them

27 posted on 05/27/2014 4:55:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Red_Devil 232

To all who replied, Thanks. I was just looking for constructive advice and info. Not a flame war on my service as a U.S. Marine during the Vietnam War.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 4:57:45 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: oh8eleven

?


29 posted on 05/27/2014 5:00:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Bring any and all paperwork you have. Any records. Any insurance. You can be expected to produce anything so it’s better to have it and get it done now.
They have all your infomration anyway so it’s not like you are giving anything up they don’t know and you will slow the process if you don’t have what you need.
The people are cordial and respectful for the most part.
God bless!


30 posted on 05/27/2014 5:01:24 PM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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I am also insured by my wife’s employer’s insurance policy and Medicare.

Having just read the above, why are you using the VA if you already have coverage?

I will predict this, due to your current coverage and your attempt to utilize the VA's, you are going to encounter problems regarding coordination of benefits between the VA, your current coverage and medicare...........

sometimes having access to too much results in too many problems........

31 posted on 05/27/2014 5:01:44 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Red_Devil 232

God bless you, and thank you for your service.


32 posted on 05/27/2014 5:02:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

BTW , if you do have a service related issue, you will need and advocate. VFW, American Legion and DAV are three that I know of. VA is means tested, but I have no idea what the criteria is for that. We pay for all meds that are not service related. But the rate on those is really good.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 5:02:37 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Chuckster
“The VA does not cover dental except for vets with service connected disabilities at a relatively high percentage of disability(Not sure exactly what it is but mine is 30% and I do not get dental) or a Purple Heart”

They did back in the 70s, got a couple of bridges and a couple root canals after separation from the Army

34 posted on 05/27/2014 5:02:41 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: JPG

Thanks for the link, looks like a better deal than the delta dental plan through tricare


35 posted on 05/27/2014 5:05:06 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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36 posted on 05/27/2014 5:08:14 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Having just read the above, why are you using the VA if you already have coverage?”

Hey! My wife insists.


37 posted on 05/27/2014 5:11:19 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232
Thanks for your service Marine

If you have any service connected problem see the advocate (there should be one there) and let them help you file the paperwork.

If there is an orientation that you can attend, you should go.
They will tell you about some service connected disabilities you might not be aware of. (such as diabetes)

I'm not an expert, but have been through this with my husband.
38 posted on 05/27/2014 5:16:05 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: QT3.14

Life in prison without parole is the very least that she deserves.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 5:18:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: novemberslady

Thanks for your positive advice!


40 posted on 05/27/2014 5:18:05 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232

At some point you will end up in front of the person doing the means testing. That person is going to look at all the documentation.

Have them scan and enter those documents into your file.

When I renewed my drivers license here in maine I needed to prove place of birth for the first time. I did not have a certified copy of my birth certificate. It was going to take 10 days and about 25 bucks to get it.

Since my DD-214 has my place of birth on it (some do, others do not) I just had to get a certified copy from my VA office about 5 miles from the DMV.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 5:19:20 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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Hey! My wife insists.

OK then, I hope it all works out for you.

With that being said, I was a benefits rep for my corporation for many years and the biggest problems I had to deal with on behalf of our employees and retirees was the "coordination of benefits" between other insurance companies and ours. Each one rejecting claims, stating the other was responsible.............

42 posted on 05/27/2014 5:25:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you for your service
But do you realize how fortunate you are to have both your wife’s health insurance and medicare?
It might be better for you to use those resources and leave the already overcrowded VA to people with service connected disabilities and for those who have no where else to go.

for what you would have to pay in copays you could pay for a Med Sup plan and use the private sector relieving the VA of at least one apt and service that might go to someone who really needs it


43 posted on 05/27/2014 5:37:01 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: trisham; Red_Devil 232

Bump to the top. Thanks, Red


44 posted on 05/27/2014 5:49:30 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: RWGinger

My understanding is the VA gives good service, you have to wait a long time for it and you pay for it if you aren’t retired from the service or service related.

Good luck, they mostly seem like really nice folks in there.


45 posted on 05/27/2014 6:08:30 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Red_Devil 232

You’re welcome


46 posted on 05/27/2014 6:08:48 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Bruce Kurtz

I believe they cover dental for the first year after discharge. I just know that I don’t get dental.


47 posted on 05/27/2014 6:56:56 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

His question was a valid one. I am a Viet Nam era vet, but I was not in Viet Nam, so I am not able to be treated at the VA.


48 posted on 05/27/2014 7:51:58 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Chuckster

It is currently at 100% disability. I have been trying for several years to get dental care but my VA primary care provider keeps telling me that I am not eligible despite the fact that all od my dental problems are related to old fillings put in by the army which are now falling out and causing my teeth to crack.

I do have a “service related disability” for my heart problems which first started in the army but despite Social Security stating that I am 100% disabled effective December 2000, the VA still refuses to adjust my rating above 5 percent because I was once working at a desk job as a computer programmer.

I am also suffering from constant back and left knee pain from in juries suffered in the army and documented on my service record. The VA declares these “treated and resolved by the Army” despite my constant suffering since my release from active duty. I was treated four times over a three year period while in the army including two trips to the emergency room.

I fell and knocked my left kneecap loose while in the army which lead to three major operations on my left knee about 16 years after getting out. This injury also appears in my medical records and is dismissed by the VA as of insufficient evidence since there were no broken bones, only soft tissue damage to the very important elements which hold the knee together.

Forget about the VA itself ever granting you approval for disability compensation and their own doctors will fight against you due to the rules that are required to give service under.

The only way that you can get the appropriate disability compensation is by going through an external doctor and getting their statement of disability and the more doctors the better. HOWEVER, the VA is very careful to ask if you are receiving care outside of the VA and will be quick to drop you if they find out.


49 posted on 05/28/2014 1:47:10 AM PDT by dglang
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To: Enterprise
I was not in Viet Nam, so I am not able to be treated at the VA.
That's no longer true and is actually part of the problem.
All vets have qualified for health care for many years now, and the extent of that coverage is based on several factors. (See the VA Priority table.)
However, this policy of "everyone qualifies" just increases the burden for all VA facilities nationwide and is stressing the system to the max (I'm not defending the VA - it's just a logical consequence).
If the H/C benefit was only available to those who had service connected injuries, the current VA tragedy might not have happened.
50 posted on 05/28/2014 5:57:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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