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Vet Allegedly Beaten To Death At VA Hospital
Opposing Views ^ | May 25, 2014 | Sarah Fruchtnicht

Posted on 05/27/2014 6:24:26 PM PDT by Altariel

A California woman says Veterans Administration hospital guards beat her husband to death after he waited four hours for dialysis.

Norma Montano says her husband of 44 years, Jonathan, died of a stroke on June 11, 2011, after he was beaten and had his carotid artery stomped by VA guards. Montano says the hospital also lied to her about what happened to her husband.

Montano’s son and daughter are also plaintiffs in the suit.

Montano says he husband was tired of waiting, but when he tried to leave and go to another facility, he “was told by the nursing staff not to leave.”

"Jonathan Montano told the nurse that he was leaving and was going to the VA Hospital in Long Beach, California, [and that] he wanted to leave the needle apparatus [a shunt] in his arm, so they wouldn't have to put a new one in at the Long Beach VA Hospital,” the complaint states.

When he insisted on leaving, the staff at the Loma Linda, Calif., facility called VA Police.

"The summoned VA Police Department police officers then stopped Jonathan Montano from leaving the VA Hospital in Loma Linda, by tackling him to the floor, slamming his head on the floor, and kneeing and stomping on his neck, and otherwise brutalizing and restraining him,” the suit says.

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KEYWORDS: arrestrelateddeaths; california; democratcare; donutwatch; hospital; hospitalpolice; jonathanmontano; lomalinda; normamontano; va; vadeaths; vahospital; vascandal; vascandals; veteran; veterans; vets
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1 posted on 05/27/2014 6:24:26 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

This might be a smidgen.


2 posted on 05/27/2014 6:25:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Altariel

Another sneak peak at ObamaCare. Get ready America. This government healthcare bull**** is about to get ugly. Death panels and SWAT teams.


3 posted on 05/27/2014 6:28:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


4 posted on 05/27/2014 6:32:07 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: bamahead

Possibly of interest to your ping list.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 6:34:43 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/05/25/68182.htm

SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) - After waiting for 4 hours for dialysis with a shunt in his arm, a veteran told a Veterans Administration hospital he was leaving, whereupon VA police beat the hell out of him and stomped on his carotid artery, giving him a stroke that killed him, and they lied to his wife about it, the widow claims in court.

Norma Montano sued the United States of America in Federal Court, for the death of her husband of 44 years, Jonathan Montano. The Montanos’ son and daughter also are plaintiffs.

The lawsuit comes as veterans hospitals nationwide are under investigation for lying about wait times to which they subjected patients. News reports have not yet linked the long waits to any deaths. Norma Montano does not attribute her husband’s death to the long wait, but to the needless beating.

Jonathan Montano died on June 11, 2011, after VA police brutalized him at the VA hospital in Loma Linda on May 25 that year, his widow claims in the lawsuit.

Jonathan, who was 65, had a shunt put in his arm by the VA hospital staff that day, and waited with his wife for treatment “for approximately four hours, without being treated,” Norma Montano says in the complaint.

“This greatly frustrated Jonathan Montano, who then decided that he didn’t want to wait any longer at the VA Hospital in Loma Linda and decided to leave the hospital and to go to the VA Hospital in Long Beach,” the complaint states.

Jonathan told his wife to get the car to take him to Long Beach. As she went to get it, her husband “was told by the nursing staff not to leave the hospital,” the complaint states.

It continues: “Jonathan Montana told the nurse that he was leaving and was going to the VA Hospital in Long Beach, California, [and that] he wanted to leave the needle apparatus in his arm, so they wouldn’t have to put a new one in at the Long Beach VA Hospital.

“In response to Jonathan Montano’s attempt to leave the VA Hospital in Loma Linda, California, the nursing staff called VA Police Department to stop Jonathan Montano from leaving the hospital.

“The summoned VA Police Department police officers then stopped Jonathan Montano from leaving the VA Hospital in Loma Linda, by tackling him to the floor, slamming his head on the floor, and kneeing and stomping on his neck, and otherwise brutalizing and restraining him.

“This kneeing and stomping on his neck by the VA Police Department police officers caused the dissection of his carotid artery, that resulted in immediate (or very soon thereafter) blood clotting, which resulted in [his] suffering a stroke. Moreover, the brutalization of Jonathan Montano resulted in him suffering other serious physical injuries, and associated physical, mental and emotional pain, suffering and distress.” (Parentheses in complaint.)

Norma Montano, wondering why her husband had not come to the car, went inside to look for him. Inside the hospital, she says, “she was told by a member of the nursing staff that Jonathan Montano suffered a stroke,” and was in the emergency department.

When she sought him there, “she was told by the emergency room doctor that her husband had fallen down and suffered a stroke, an untrue statement,” she says in the complaint.

It continues: “Later on, one of the nurses at the VA Hospital in Loma Linda took Norma Montano aside, and told her that her husband didn’t fall, but was slammed to the ground by the VA Police, that Norma Montano was being lied to, and that it wasn’t right what the VA Police did to Jonathan Montano.

“On June 11, 2011, Jonathan Montano died from the stroke(s) that he suffered from being slammed to the floor and having his neck stomped on / pinned to the floor at the VA Hospital in Loma Linda on May 25, 2011.”

She claims the VA police brutalized her husband without any reasonable suspicion that there was “criminality afoot” or that he had committed a crime.

She seeks damages and punitive damages for wrongful death, assault and battery, false imprisonment, constitutional violations, negligence, loss of consortium and intentional infliction of emotional distress.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 6:38:12 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

And then I said I first heard of this in the newspapers and that I was outraged...

7 posted on 05/27/2014 6:38:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Altariel

So the VA hospitals are prisons now?


8 posted on 05/27/2014 6:38:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Disturbing, that but for one honest nurse, the widow might not have known what had happened to her husband.

The other medical staff were perfectly willing to lie.

Most disturbing.


9 posted on 05/27/2014 6:45:31 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

MF’ers! I will pack when I go to the VA. My man will not be mistreated if it means prison for me.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 6:47:40 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Altariel

Obama’s goons!


11 posted on 05/27/2014 6:48:01 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My best friend’s father is a retired thoracic surg. for the VA. The stories he told me in the 80’s were horrific. Particularly how the vets were treated in the psych ward.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 6:49:31 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Yep! And they are all unionized.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 6:50:10 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Altariel

Speechless.

That there have not been indictments and arrests of everyone involved, especially the medical staff who started it all and then lied to the victim’s wife’s face is all the evidence you need that these acts are approved and endorsed at the highest level of government. Obamacare is the expansion of this brutality to the general citizenry.

I’ll leave it to others to determine which Amendment provides the appropriate remedy.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 6:50:24 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: Altariel

We’re going to beat you to death to ensure you get healthcare!

We need that stoner, “wait, what?” kitty.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 6:51:35 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: defconw

Sister, I go NOWHERE without my gun, and one or more of these goobermint goons WOULD have died that day....


16 posted on 05/27/2014 6:51:40 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

AuschwitzCare, ya think?


17 posted on 05/27/2014 6:52:58 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Altariel

It literally sounds like 1960’s East Berlin.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 6:56:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Altariel

Condolences to Norma, the son, the daughter.

R.I.P. Jonathan Montano


19 posted on 05/27/2014 7:00:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Altariel

someone else could/would have hunted down every guard at that facility until there were no more. Those family members showed remarkable restraint, in my opinion.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 7:00:51 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation)
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To: jocon307

And just think—your tax dollars paid for the hospital police to beat a veteran.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 7:01:53 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They had to use whatever means necessary to keep him there for his own good.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 7:03:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Altariel
And just think—your tax dollars paid for the hospital police to beat a veteran.

And just think - your tax dollars will pay for this to happen under Obamacare.

23 posted on 05/27/2014 7:04:12 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: clee1

Hear You! Glad to know you!


24 posted on 05/27/2014 7:05:04 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Altariel

This is beyond belief. Infuriating.


25 posted on 05/27/2014 7:07:37 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Altariel

In order to save the patient we had to kill him.


26 posted on 05/27/2014 7:10:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Altariel

Another source of same incident:

“Lawsuit alleges veteran beaten to death by VA hospital police”

http://www.examiner.com/article/lawsuit-alleges-veteran-beaten-to-death-by-va-hospital-police

The source for that coverage appears to be “Raw Story”.


27 posted on 05/27/2014 7:11:51 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Steely Tom

There better be video or eye witnesses for this colorful story to go anywhere.

You say po-tay-tos, I say po-tah-tos.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 7:12:56 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

And that is the rub: this is one incident which happened three years ago.

The very nature of this story should have been front page news at that time.

The real question isn’t (sadly) “where is the video of this incident?” the question is: “how many more such incidents happen-—and the family members or loved ones never learn the truth?”


29 posted on 05/27/2014 7:17:17 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: RitaOK

The article notes a nurse who witnessed the attack and spoke up.


30 posted on 05/27/2014 7:19:30 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Another sneak peak at ObamaCare. Get ready America. This government healthcare bull**** is about to get ugly. Death panels and SWAT teams.

Isn't that just beautiful? Now the VA has another way to kill you. Death from no VA medical care, or death from VA minimum wage security guards. Yes, just F'ing beautiful. You are right. Get ready, it's coming. I think a lot of people are going to die.

31 posted on 05/27/2014 7:19:56 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

The “government” will now be able to tell everyone when their time is up. Reminds me of an old “B” movie from back in the 60s. I never thought I’d see it but it’s here.


32 posted on 05/27/2014 7:22:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Altariel; MeshugeMikey

Reminds me of the Movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”


33 posted on 05/27/2014 7:24:57 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Mark17

Once upon a time several years ago, I learned of some mistreatment at a VA hospital. Many soldiers were mistreated. It just so happened that the soldiers in our area had a special event going on, so...I talked to THEM :)

They checked it out, AND managed to fix it!


34 posted on 05/27/2014 7:27:25 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: defconw

They get better treatment in prison anyway.


35 posted on 05/27/2014 7:30:51 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: defconw; clee1

It is illegal to carry a weapon on VA property. You will be arrested, and it won’t be pretty.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 7:32:19 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: jocon307; Slings and Arrows

37 posted on 05/27/2014 7:39:13 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Nachum

What is the ping list? Am I on it?


38 posted on 05/27/2014 7:40:02 PM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: Altariel
And for that alone they need to loose their licensing. Falsification of medical reports IS illegal and a major medical ethics violation.
39 posted on 05/27/2014 7:43:17 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Texas Fossil

I can’t find a copy of the action.


40 posted on 05/27/2014 7:51:34 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Teacher317

Ah, facts and corroboration are nice things to know, and trump verbose dramatizations where they are left out. I missed that from the thread account.

Thank you very much. It was too criminal for words.

Hang ‘em high in court, of course.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 7:54:53 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Altariel

If that was my father the guards would be in a world of excrement, physically. Screw the lawsuit.


42 posted on 05/27/2014 7:55:09 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: SgtHooper
They get better treatment in prison anyway.

I worked in a prison for 25 years. I can assure you, that is a true statement.

43 posted on 05/27/2014 8:00:29 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: SgtHooper

Yep!


44 posted on 05/27/2014 8:01:28 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Altariel
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45 posted on 05/27/2014 8:01:52 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: gasport

Courthouse News Services>

Sunday, May 25, 2014Last Update: 10:04 AM PT

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/05/25/68182.htm

“She is represented by Jerry L. Steering, of Newport Beach”


46 posted on 05/27/2014 8:03:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Altariel

Our nation is morally bankrupt.


47 posted on 05/27/2014 8:03:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: goodwithagun

Yep! But they won’t know I am carrying. In my state only courthouses and bars are no carry areas. The freaking VA is not a courthouse or bar.


48 posted on 05/27/2014 8:03:44 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Altariel; jiggyboy; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar; ...

V A ping.


49 posted on 05/27/2014 8:04:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Altariel
An unintended consequences of government run healthcare is - after a time - the ‘guards’ opps, I mean ‘caregivers’ start seeing themselves as very special. They don't take guff from the beggars... oops I mean ‘patients’.

It's why the incentives are called perverse.

50 posted on 05/27/2014 8:27:40 PM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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