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Ben Carson on 2nd Amendment: Needed In Case Gov’t Goes ‘Off The Rail’
CNS News ^ | 05/27/2014 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 05/27/2014 6:59:23 PM PDT by Rusty0604

“But the real reason that they put it [2nd Amendment] there is recognizing that there could come a time when our government itself could go off the rail, and could try to dominate the people, and the people would need a mechanism of defense for themselves,” said Carson. “I would never allow the Second Amendment to be jeopardized.”

“I do believe that it is necessary for people to begin to have rational discussions about things – what kinds of weapons,” said Carson. “You know, I don’t think tanks, for instance, would be a very good thing to be keeping in your garage. But you certainly should have access to any kind of weapon that you want for recreational purposes or to protect yourself. There really shouldn’t be a lot of restrictions on that.”

He continued, “You do need to have a discussion about how we deal with situations where there is a tremendous amount of crime and easy access to the kinds of weapons that can create a lot of damage quickly. But that needs to be done in context of always preserving Second Amendment rights.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; carson2016; guncontrol
My only question is, if all the gov't agencies have tanks, why wouldn't it be a good idea for citizens?
1 posted on 05/27/2014 6:59:23 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
"... To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed".

If I don't have the right to own a tank, I can hardly delegate that power to the government to exercise on my behalf.

2 posted on 05/27/2014 7:02:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Rusty0604

You should be able to own a tank legally. Carson’s RINOism is showing.


3 posted on 05/27/2014 7:04:06 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Rusty0604

A rebellious Federal state requires a militia to oganize appropriate measures. It is not like we are making a living from owning firearms the way they do or the way a mafia would seek it.


4 posted on 05/27/2014 7:04:41 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Rusty0604
Ben seems to have a knack for changing his positions when he detects the wind blowing back at him.
5 posted on 05/27/2014 7:04:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Rusty0604

Carson is clearly not presidential material.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 7:05:33 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Rusty0604

“recognizing that there could come a time when our government itself could go off the rail, and could try to dominate the people, and the people would need a mechanism of defense for themselves,”

Time?


7 posted on 05/27/2014 7:06:08 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: Rusty0604
My friends and countrymen... the powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty.

The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom?

Congress have no right to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American....

The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or the state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." - Tench Coxe, delegate to the Continental Congress in the Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788

8 posted on 05/27/2014 7:07:06 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Rusty0604
TOO LATE !

Gov’t HAS ALREADY GONE
‘Off The Rail’ !

9 posted on 05/27/2014 7:09:50 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: VRWC For Truth

I think he’s an Independent, but I understand what you mean.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 7:12:46 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ComputerGuy

He could be Surgeon General or Sec. of Education (unless we can manage to get rid of the Dept. of Education).


11 posted on 05/27/2014 7:15:06 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

From where I’m looking at it the rails are wobbling now.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 7:18:37 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Rusty0604

“The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower”-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.”


13 posted on 05/27/2014 7:18:38 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Rusty0604

He also seems a little too nice for elected office. Right now, what we need is a pack of honey badgers, imo. I’m tired of this ‘let’s first make sure we don’t offend’ schtick.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 7:18:39 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Nuclear bombs?


15 posted on 05/27/2014 7:20:41 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Rusty0604

Since the Federal Government has already declared war on the citizens of the United States, how will you know when it goes off the rails?


16 posted on 05/27/2014 7:27:14 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Rusty0604
there could come a time when our government itself could go off the rail

Hey Doc...we're living in that time.

17 posted on 05/27/2014 7:28:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Rusty0604

Carson & McRaven for President and VP.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 7:29:02 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: kaehurowing

Palin/Perrino 2016. I can dream!


19 posted on 05/27/2014 7:33:11 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Rusty0604

Is he trying to undo his earlier statements on guns? About some places shouldn’t have guns?


20 posted on 05/27/2014 7:42:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ComputerGuy

He speaks very softly but does he carry a big stick?


21 posted on 05/27/2014 7:42:19 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

“The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against
arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny
which now appears remote in America, but which historically
has proved to be always possible.”

The late Senator – and presidential candidate — Hubert Humphery D,Minnesota.

My my how the Democrats have changed.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 7:43:12 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: LibWhacker

Excellent, and throw that one at every gun-grabbing Communist loony who claims the Constitution is hopelessly outdated and needs to be junked and re-written because no one can ever really know what America’s founders actually intended by the words “arms” and “militia” ! :)


23 posted on 05/27/2014 7:44:30 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Rusty0604
If we have to have a Brother in the race, let's go with West, I say. Hell, let's go with West even if we don't have to have a Brother in the race. He's far superior to Carson, imo. I don't want another one of those let's all get along types running for office.
24 posted on 05/27/2014 7:48:48 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Rusty0604

He didn’t hesitate to ream Obama out to his face at the National Prayer Breakfast. WH demanded apology, he declined.

“I want people to understand that we, the American people, are not each other’s enemies. The real enemies are those people who are trying to divide us into every little possible group.” - Ben Carson


25 posted on 05/27/2014 7:48:52 PM PDT by Kenny
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26 posted on 05/27/2014 7:49:56 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Rusty0604

“easy access to the kinds of weapons that can create a lot of damage quickly.”

He is talking about restricting my American Sporting Rifles with their standard magazines.

NO GO.
NO VOTES from those that can read.


27 posted on 05/27/2014 7:53:35 PM PDT by DavidLSpud
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To: ComputerGuy

I read his blog today and was thinking about him as President.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 8:05:48 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kenny

That’s very true and I thought about that after I posted that. I like the way he hates political correctness.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 8:07:24 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: VRWC For Truth

Re the Tank: I’m with you, Brother...

Re: Dr. Ben...I don’t get the enthusiasm or the fascination with this geek? Brilliant surgeon? Maybe, probably, his record seems to say so...Does that make his every utterance “words of wisdom”?

Clearly not, when he continues to demonstrate his complete lack of understanding of the God-given human right of self defense and preservation the 2nd Amendment safeguards? He needs to go “back to school” on this subject...

Somehow, people are unable to shake off the notion expertise in one field of endeavor automatically carries over into any other...Huh?

Carson, the typical tyro he apparently is, hasn’t the experience to understand he can’t have it both ways...He’s either FOR the RKBA, or he’s AGAINST...

Neither he nor any other would-be pol should ever be allowed to hedge...I turned my attention elsewhere the first time he shot his mouth off (and himself in the foot) about guns...

IMHO...Simple test...Any potential candidate who is not comfortable with me or any other law-abiding, adult, non-felon citizen walking into a gun shop, buying a semi-auto pistol, loading a standard capacity magazine for said pistol with JHP rounds, dropping it into a holster or pocket and walking out, no questions asked, background check or permit necessary, does not understand the 2nd Amendment, is a Statist, and undeserving of our votes...

Is Carson really the best we can do?


30 posted on 05/27/2014 8:10:07 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: elteemike

Ben Carson is able to clearly and methodically articulate the conservative message.. That’s what we need now.


31 posted on 05/27/2014 9:25:46 PM PDT by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Reddy
"Ben Carson is able to clearly and methodically articulate the conservative message.. That’s what we need now."

You mean like this message?

“I believe we have taken the moral low road on this issue. Some segments of our economy would virtually collapse without these undocumented workers—we all know that—yet we continue to harass and deport many individuals who are simply seeking a better life for themselves and their families. Is there a way to apply logic to this issue and arrive at an intelligent solution?” - Ben Carson, "America the Beautiful", p. 102

32 posted on 05/27/2014 9:43:01 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Ben seems to have a knack for changing his positions when he detects the wind blowing back at him.

Bingo!
33 posted on 05/27/2014 10:42:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Rusty0604

Yeah they have tanks, we have deer rifles. Those idiots got to come out of the tanks once in a while. Deer rifles out number tanks, ACP’s etc. They will loose the battle of attrition.


34 posted on 05/27/2014 10:49:57 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: VRWC For Truth
You should be able to own a tank legally. Carson’s RINOism is showing.

2016, will be the year of the outsider, someone not from the political world, I agree with Beck on that concept. However IMHO another outsider will emerge, and it won't be Carson. I am holding my powder dry as to who I think it will be, stay tuned....

35 posted on 05/27/2014 10:52:33 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Many people in this country own tanks legally, sucvh as the late Jacque Littlefield, who had a very large collection of Main Battle Tanks from WW II to very recent times . The restrictions are not so much on the automotive or turret parts of the vehicle but on the explosive rounds that the main guns fire and the secondary armament such as the coaxial and turret mounted machine guns which are regulated under the Federal Firearms Acts of 1934 and 1986.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 11:27:11 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Rusty0604

I have a friend here in Calif. who legally owns a Russian tank. The gun is disabled but it will run and move.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 1:29:51 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Doomonyou

>> Yeah they have tanks, we have deer rifles.

I’d rather have the rifle.


38 posted on 05/28/2014 1:42:48 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I like Dr. Ben a lot, as he seems to say what he thinks without worrying about any political backlash.

My concerns about him, however, is that most of his talking is about domestic issues. Those ARE major issues nowadays.

He does speak softly, BUT does he carry a big stick as Teddy Roosevelt indicated?

Obama has essentially ruined our DoD and military morale, along with his failed foreign policies; thus relegating the US into a second-tier power in the world.

I’d like to hear Dr. Ben’s thoughts about what should be done regarding our military and foreign policy to restore to the US some respect by other other countries and US citizens.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 2:53:49 AM PDT by octex
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To: Rusty0604

I don’t trust Carson on guns. He is now trying walk back some comments he made a few weeks ago about the kinds of guns the public should be allowed to own. He needs to run for the Senate or House if he wants to hold office. Lets see how he does there.


40 posted on 05/28/2014 7:11:20 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Rusty0604
But you certainly should have access to any kind of weapon that you want for recreational purposes or to protect yourself. There really shouldn’t be a lot of restrictions on that.”

Right, and a tank is not what you need; anti-tank weapons are what you need to protect yourself from out-of-control government. But if you really WANT that fat easy target, you should be able to own it.

41 posted on 05/28/2014 7:36:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ComputerGuy
Carson is clearly not presidential material.

Maybe not, but I'd love to see him preside over the dismantling of HHS, then the EPA, the two DOEs (energy and education)...

42 posted on 05/28/2014 7:39:57 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: elteemike
Any potential candidate who is not comfortable with me or any other law-abiding, adult, non-felon citizen walking into a gun shop, buying a semi-auto pistol, loading a standard capacity magazine for said pistol with JHP rounds, dropping it into a holster or pocket and walking out, no questions asked, background check or permit necessary, does not understand the 2nd Amendment, is a Statist, and undeserving of our votes...

Rhetorical question: If there are "no questions asked", how does the gun seller know that the buyer is in fact a law-abiding, adult, non-felon citizen? Or a citizen at all? Or has just escaped or been released by judicial fiat from a mental institution?

I guess the solution is to let anyone who chooses to do so buy and own weapons, and to make the punishment for using them illegally certain and severe.

43 posted on 05/28/2014 7:59:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Dick Bachert
The late Senator – and presidential candidate — Hubert Humphrey D, Minnesota.

You could disagree with his kind of Democrat on policy, but you knew he loved America as much as you did. Zell Miller was probably the last of that bunch.

44 posted on 05/28/2014 8:02:41 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Doomonyou
Yeah they have tanks, we have deer rifles.

It's not all that difficult to bake the contents of a MRAP.

45 posted on 05/28/2014 8:05:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Yosemitest

100 million firearms are all that stands between us and boots on our throats.

Seriously, what do you think the current admin would do if that situation didn’t exist?


46 posted on 05/28/2014 8:10:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
The same thing the Nazis did before we stopped them.
And that same solution ... is what we are going to HAVE TO DO to these FASCISTS/MARXISTS.
47 posted on 05/28/2014 9:47:00 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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