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American girl confronts diversity claims
http://www.vocativ.com ^ | 5/27/2014 | Emily Levy

Posted on 05/28/2014 8:47:57 AM PDT by armydawg505

When American Girl opted to discontinue two of its historical dolls last week, the brand chose Facebook as its medium of communication: “Soon, we’ll say farewell to Marie-Grace, Cécile, Ruthi and Ivy,” American Girl announced. “Complete your collection while supplies last—quantities are extremely limited.”

It wasn’t so simple, though. What the brand failed to address in its statement, but which very quickly became evident in blog posts, was that Cécile, an African-American doll, and Ivy, an Asian-American doll, were two of the only dolls of color in American Girl’s standard collection.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: americangirl; diversity; dolls; raceagain; racecard
OK, to the 1100 unhappy facebook posters, go buy the damned dolls if you want the company to keep making them. Otherwise, STHU.
1 posted on 05/28/2014 8:47:57 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

Maybe the Gov’t should step in and demand diversity quotas for dolls.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 8:51:14 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: armydawg505

You are obviously a racist. The company needs to keep the dolls to show their diversity even if they don’t sell. ;->


3 posted on 05/28/2014 8:52:42 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: armydawg505

Rejection is Hell - not only do the stats show whites don’t rape blacks to any extent as compared to blacks raping whites, but now the whites aren’t buying black dolls.

Dat be racis!


4 posted on 05/28/2014 8:54:30 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: armydawg505

I can’t imagine the company stopped making the dolls because they were the most popular.

Since liberals don’t understand business, they can’t understand why a company would stop producing something if it’s a money loser.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 8:54:50 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: armydawg505

Translation: sales sucked.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 8:55:01 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: armydawg505

These dolls are expensive - well made, quality dolls. Perhaps there aren’t many of these particular dolls being sold, so why keep them in the inventory? This company has gone through many historical periods and dolls - my daughter had two of them back in the 80’s, both have been discontinued. It is called “marketing” - you offer new merchandise once the old stuff has run its course.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 8:55:11 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: armydawg505
American is dead.

Now we're just a spot on the globe people come to make money, watch TV and complain about unfairness.

8 posted on 05/28/2014 8:55:35 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: armydawg505

dolls of color = colored dolls
People of color = colored people.

Looks like we’re back to the old days.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 8:59:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: armydawg505

The owner should be forced to sell the company to a racially diverse group. /s


10 posted on 05/28/2014 8:59:51 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: armydawg505

Everybody be wantin the white women!
Aints got no time for no black women.
(So said consumers)


11 posted on 05/28/2014 8:59:59 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: armydawg505

12 posted on 05/28/2014 9:00:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

Back in the day when cartoons were actually funny and clever.


13 posted on 05/28/2014 9:05:10 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Vigilanteman

Liberals just can’t believe that diversity doesn’t sell dolls.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 9:05:21 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: armydawg505
Perhaps the best example of the brand’s recent shift from personality-based to profit-based decision-making is Isabelle—the latest doll to hit shelves. Part of the company’s “Girl of the Year” series, Isabelle is a blond ballet dancer whose primary accessories are her vanity table and yoga mat. And while she isn’t outwardly diverse in any quantifiable way, she certainly reflects the aspirations of many young girls across the country.

So a blond obsessed with exercise and make up reflects the aspirations of many young girls? Uh, oh. Doesn't sound to PC to me. After the protests, get ready for them to lauch a line of fat and ugly dolls.

15 posted on 05/28/2014 9:06:58 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: armydawg505
They also don't get that there will surely be new dolls replacing the retired ones. And I bet those will be of varied ethnicities.

It's not racism any more than a new model year of a car. It's marketing and pumping demand.

16 posted on 05/28/2014 9:09:22 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: armydawg505
They will soon introduce Aliiyah, the Jihadi girl.

She wears a complete burka in the slimming girlish color of black. She comes with a removable clitoris so Muslim girls can get used to the idea. Her blackened eyes and bruises present an accurate image of the modern jihadi girl who doubles as a punching bag for her father, brothers or husband (even though she is only 9 years old!), and her suicide bomb vest is not removable.

For safety, she doesn't really blow up, but if you push the secret button, she screams,

"AiiiiiiYiiiiiiiiiYiiiiiiii!!!! I KILL YOU, INFIDEL!!! ALLAHU AKHAR!!!!"

"Mama, can I have an Aliiyah doll this Eid al-Fitr?"

17 posted on 05/28/2014 9:09:55 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: cuban leaf

Leaves you wondering, doesn’t it? So if I called a black person a ‘’colored person’’ would they be offended?


18 posted on 05/28/2014 9:12:14 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

Leaves you wondering, doesn’t it? So if I called a black person a ‘’colored person’’ would they be offended?


That’s the funny thing here. “People of color” and “colored people” mean exactly the same thing, even using the same words. So how is one “racist” and the other one the proper use of the words “people” and “color”?

I’ve actaully thought of using the phrase “colored guy” about a black man and see what people say. I’ll just tell them that its eadier than saying “guy of color” and besides, it is the same words and means the same thing - and maybe they should think before condemning another person’s speech.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 9:16:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: armydawg505

Companies can’t continue making products what sit on shelves. If the dolls of color aren’t selling then they should be discontinued.
If you disagree, then buy enough of the dolls to make keeping them around economical.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 9:21:42 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What... no openly lesbian dolls??

No tranny dolls??


21 posted on 05/28/2014 9:21:44 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: armydawg505

It wouldn’t matter if the dolls of color were flying off the shelves or sitting there collecting dust. These “collectibles” companies are always discontinuing various items, secure in the knowledge that the artificial scarcity will jack up the prices. They know that there are plenty of people out there who “have to have” Cecile and Ivy and who-knows what else, so they’ll pay top dollar to get them before they’re “gone forever” (or, more accurately, only available through dealers who will charge a pretty penny for them).

I have no beef with the supply and demand concept, but it annoys me that these companies will deliberately discontinue products, even ones that are selling well (and I have no idea how well or not well those particular dolls are selling) just to create an artificial scarcity. I’m sure there are plenty of suckers, er I mean collectors, who will pay a boatload of money to get their hands on those on-their-way-out dolls; but I’m not one of them.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 9:31:35 AM PDT by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: armydawg505
Isn't there something racist in SELLING minority dolls?

It just reinforces that old white privilege / slave master mentality in children.

/sarcasm

23 posted on 05/28/2014 9:49:16 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: armydawg505

My niece went through a period of collecting these things. They’re very pretty and well done, but hideously expensive, accessories, outfits, bedroom furniture that are equally expensive. I suspect there was an element of faddishness and sales are now softening. The first to go would be the specialty lines with limited appeal. That would be minority dolls. The market is smaller, the sales decline would be more of a problem. But, the perpetually aggrieved seized upon it as yet another reason to be aggrieved. Is there some doll quota now? If there’s such a need, here’s your opportunity, entrepreneurial people of color. Come out with your own hideously expensive doll.


24 posted on 05/28/2014 9:56:11 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: armydawg505
"were two of the only dolls of color"

That doesn't make sense.
25 posted on 05/28/2014 9:57:28 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Vigilanteman

PMIIDGAS (pardon me if I don’t give a s+++!


26 posted on 05/28/2014 10:05:11 AM PDT by mathurine
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To: armydawg505

The obvious answer is seize the market for dolls of color! Don’t bitch about what someone else is or isn’t doing, fill the niche. Oh, yeah the fact that very very few people want to buy them might mitigate that a bit.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 10:18:03 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: armydawg505

What, no Shaniqua Doll?


28 posted on 05/28/2014 10:19:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: shoff

Some of our mission team members went into stores in the Dominican Republic, looking for a doll for one of the children sponsored, and could not find a SINGLE black doll - even though the population of that country is primarily of African descent. Even “people of color” do not apparently buy the dolls.


29 posted on 05/28/2014 10:26:06 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: armydawg505
It wasn’t so simple, though. What the brand failed to address in its statement, but which very quickly became evident in blog posts, was that Cécile, an African-American doll,

Then should it be spell'd: "Sessile"?

30 posted on 05/28/2014 8:27:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: cuban leaf

What is the not-to-subtle message here is white people are not ‘’people of color’’ and that infuriates me to no end. The idea behind this form of bigotry is an ugly and pernicious reasoning that since white is not a ‘’color’’ than ‘’white people’’ are not really people. Well to that I say black is the absence of color, ergo blacks are not people.And God help the fool who ever gets in my face with this nonsense because at this point in my life and at my age(I’m just two steps from sixty) I’m likely to take somebody’s head off. I don’t care anymore. I’ve been listening to this neo-Marxist dialectic about race and ‘’whitey is the Devil’’ for some forty years and I’m beyond fed up with it.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 10:38:15 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: dfwgator

“”What no Shaniqua doll?’’>> Shaniqua ain’t come up for parole yet. She be still in da joint.


32 posted on 05/28/2014 10:40:44 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

It’s kind of funny. A guy at work said I am a “renaissance man” because I do so many diverse things (programmer, BA, pseudo-farmer, road ralley driver, play bass and sing in three bands, etc...). So when someone says someone is a “person of color”, I say, “I am too.” It catches them off guard until I explain what I mean. Then when they explain what they mean, I’ll say, “Oh, you are referring to his negro race.”

Then the fun starts. ;-)


33 posted on 05/29/2014 6:02:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
LOL! Some few years ago at a family barbeque one of my college age nieces had a male friend/fellow college student with her and at some point the discussion turned to politics(never good to do at such occasions but...) and at one point this rather clean cut looking kid said rather haughtily “Speaking for myself I'm a Marxist’’. I said , “Oh yeah? Which one are you, Karl or Groucho? Folks got a good laugh out of that one but'' Mr.Hero of the Proletariat''didn't think it was so funny.
34 posted on 05/29/2014 12:46:39 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: cuban leaf

You play bass? I’m a drummer. Well, that is I once was many moons ago. Singer too. Still do that sometimes. But mostly in the shower lol!. A friend of mine has a Karaoke bar and a few months ago I did Carly Simons “Anticipation’’. She’s not hard to do. For me anyway. This place has the one bar up front and the stage area bar in the back. Took almost a full minute to convince a good friend of mine who was sitting out front with her husband that really was me signing. She told me she said to her husband, “Who’s the chick?’’. What kind of a bass have you got? Guys I used to play always loved Fenders.


35 posted on 05/29/2014 12:59:22 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

That’s pretty funny. My introduction to the bass was actually from singing in Karaoke bars. I was singing in my church’s small ensemble after that and they said, gosh, we need a bass player...

One time I was singing in a Karaoke bar and looking at my wife (which is what I do when I sing and she’s there) and some woman walked up to my wife, pointed at me and said, and I quote, “Is THAT yours?” At least that is how my wife tells it.


36 posted on 05/29/2014 1:15:44 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: jmacusa

BTW, I used to use “That’s the way I always heard it should be to sell the heck out of ESS speakers back in the mid-1970’s when I was a hi-fi salesman.

If you can do Carly effectively, you got something there.


37 posted on 05/29/2014 1:17:13 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

“THAT””? What’s that supposed to mean? She’s envious of your wife for having a handsome husband who can sing or is it more like ‘’Honey if I had to wake up next to that everyday I’d sooner shoot myself’’? Don’t know where you’re from but in my neck of the woods something like that were to go down it’d be cat fight city in a heartbeat. So what kind of a bass do you play.


38 posted on 05/29/2014 2:10:50 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

My first bass was a Yamaha five string. I had Mike Lull put a bartollini 18 volt active system in it. Then my wife got me a nice Dean Acoustic/electric (looks like a big acoustic guitar). The other six I got off RondoMusic. A five string fretless with black tape wound strings, a six string, a copy of a fender Jazz tobacco sunburst with the big chrome covers over the pickups and bridge. I didn’t pay more than $149 for any of those and they work absolutely great. Workhorses all.

Regarding the “that” comment, I won’t go into detail. It was vain enough to even bring it up. The wording was a crack up, though...


39 posted on 05/29/2014 6:41:09 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

My best buddy swears by his Fender Precision and his older brother is strictly old school and swears by his big acoustic stand up he calls “Bertha D. Blues’’Have a nice week-end.


40 posted on 05/30/2014 3:31:46 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa
The one thing I still want to get is a P-bass. I've played them, but don't have one yet. I have my eye on this one - $169. (And you have a nice weekend too!)


41 posted on 05/30/2014 8:40:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

Sweet!


42 posted on 05/30/2014 1:07:08 PM PDT by jmacusa
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