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New Boy Scouts president: Gay scout leaders acceptable
life site news ^ | Dustin Siggins

Posted on 05/28/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by Morgana

IRVING, TX, May 27, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who led the military to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell, says that he would have allowed homosexual leaders for Boy Scouts of America.

Gates, who was elected to head the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) for a two-year term last week, said that he "would have supported having gay Scoutmasters, but at the same time, I fully accept the decision that was democratically arrived at by 1,500 volunteers from across the entire country."

A year ago, BSA allowed openly homosexual scouts for the first time. The policy reads that "No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone.” The policy took effect on January 1, 2014.

Gates, who said he "was prepared to go further than the decision that was made," declared in a public statement last week that he did not intend to reignite the very public, months-long controversy. According to Gates, "to try to take last year's decision to the next step would irreparably fracture and perhaps even provoke a formal, permanent split in this movement - with the high likelihood neither side would subsequently survive on its own."

However, a "formal" split has already taken place. Due to last year's vote, the organization Trail Life USA was created. The new group says it aims "to be the premier national character development organization for young men which produces Godly and responsible husbands, fathers, and citizens."

Furthermore, the decision by BSA to allow gay scouts has led to criticism from people on both sides of the debate. Homosexual activists say the group did not go far enough, whereas many Christian parents and groups say BSA is bowing to public pressure from homosexual advocates to affect its membership, despite its Christian roots.

Corporate pressure has been especially aggressive. Earlier this year, Walt Disney World threatened to not allow employees to volunteer for BSA as part of its VoluntEARS program in 2015 if the organization does not allow gay Scout leaders. Diversity Inc. reports that Merck & Co., Ernst & Young, Major League Baseball, and AT&T are just some of the other companies that have pressured BSA to change its policies.

Even President Obama has gotten involved, saying in 2010 that "gays and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does, in every institution and walk of life."

Trail Life said it had 500 groups join it as of December 2013. Over 70 percent of BSA's membership consists of faith-based organizations, and many of its Catholic, Mormon, and United Methodist-affiliated troops have expressed concern about the new policy. The Southern Baptist Convention, which has 4,000 troops affiliated with it, condemned last year's change.

BSA says its policies will protect its members from abuse by Scout leaders, whether homosexual or heterosexual. Those policies include a mandate that at least two adults are present at all times, and leaders are not allowed to touch Scouts.


TOPICS: Society
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1 posted on 05/28/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

This is the reason they picked up Robert Gates.

They went full retard


2 posted on 05/28/2014 10:31:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Morgana

No, it’s not acceptable, and my boy will not be anywhere near this pervert organization.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 10:32:31 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Morgana

The Scouts cannot be saved. Don’t let your kids near either Girl or Boy Scouts. Simply, move on and let them be part of a fond past which is no longer a present reality.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 10:33:04 AM PDT by Essie
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To: Essie

Time to dig out all my old Scout badges and burn them, I guess.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 10:34:35 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: Morgana

Just checking to see if John Semmons wrote this first. Hell we all predicted this. We knew it was incrementalism to put homos in charge of the flock to find new NAMBLA fodder...


6 posted on 05/28/2014 10:35:58 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Gay Scouts. Homo Scouts. Perv Scouts. It’s all about “love”, isn’t it?


7 posted on 05/28/2014 10:36:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Morgana

Robert Gates. Another legacy of the George W. Bush administration.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 10:36:21 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: hal ogen

Scouting for Boys.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 10:37:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GeronL
the military "leaders"???.....insanity....just communists with a big fat pension...

stop handing out pensions for the military and it'll get back to being a time honored patriotic organization with high character leaders....not money grabbers....

as it is right now, we have so many "hangers on" who wouldn't make it in the real world...

10 posted on 05/28/2014 10:38:05 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Morgana

Then let your grandsons spend the night with one and let us know ow it goes.


11 posted on 05/28/2014 10:38:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: GeronL

General Boykin wasn’t available? What an asshat Gates is.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 10:39:07 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Your old Scout badges are momentos of a Scouting organization that was good;destroying those items won’t affect the present mess.

BSA ,1908-2012, R.I.P.


13 posted on 05/28/2014 10:39:38 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: GeronL

Gee, what could go wrong?

Worked out great to have gay pastors in the churches, right?


14 posted on 05/28/2014 10:39:50 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: hal ogen
I don't believe young guys know what they are or act on it until they are well past cub scout age, and probably well into their eagle scout age....I don't worry about them...

I do worry about fatherless young boys having homosexual "leaders"....

15 posted on 05/28/2014 10:40:08 AM PDT by cherry
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

“Time to dig out all my old Scout badges and burn them”

No remember it the way it was.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 10:40:47 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

another GOPe leftist done destroying our military and now loosed on our children. get your kids out.


17 posted on 05/28/2014 10:40:50 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: Morgana

Aaaaaand there it goes. Can’t say we didn’t call it.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 10:41:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Morgana; All
Here's some info about Trail Life USA mentioned in OP.
Trail Life USA

19 posted on 05/28/2014 10:42:32 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Morgana

It won’t be long before ALL scout leaders are queer.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 10:44:38 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Morgana

“Boy scouts” sounds so inclusive, doesn’t it? And enough with the survival in the wilderness skills. When’s the last time you needed those in a gay bar?


21 posted on 05/28/2014 10:45:58 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Morgana

Time to combine the BSA and the GSA and call it the GSA - Gay Scouts of America.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 10:46:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Morgana

Reference the recent Homeland Security sweep in NYC in which, among other pedophiles, one arrested was a Boy Scout leader actively involved in the possession and exchange of child pornography.


23 posted on 05/28/2014 10:49:15 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Westbrook

“Worked out great to have gay pastors in the churches, right?”

The basic scientific method is to form an hypothesis, experimentally test it, and advance it to a theory if the initial experiments prove its likely validity. Thus, as far as homosexuals serving in positions with ready access to impressionable boys and teenagers is concerned, the hypothesis would be they would be no more likely to have sexual contact with their charges than heterosexual males would. The RC Church unintentionally volunteered itself to be the world’s greatest Guinea Pig for this experiment. The outcome was an absolute catastrophe of mass sexual abuse, perversion, and billions of dollars of lawsuits and settlements. Any logical person with a reasonably scientific mind would say the experiment was a catastrophic failure that decisively proved active homosexuals shouldn’t be let near impressionable young male humans. Gates and his many accomplices who have sodomized the Scouts are about to reap the legal nightmare that will assuredly descend on the organization, just as it did on the RC Church, except it will be far worse because the Church’s product is eternal salvation, while the BSA’s main product is only outdoor fun..


24 posted on 05/28/2014 10:57:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Morgana

Gates does not have children in BSA, or he would be willing to protect innocent children from unnecessary dangers.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 10:57:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Morgana
Walt Disney World threatened to not allow employees to volunteer for BSA

Since when can employers not allow people to volunteer for whatever they please?!

26 posted on 05/28/2014 11:00:44 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Morgana

Incredible.

The Boy Scout Board knowingly put a person in charge of a boys problem who has no problem with them being led by homosexuals.

This is truly evil.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 11:01:37 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Morgana
“Even President Obama has gotten involved”

No *hit! Is there anything that he doesn't stick his nose in especially when it is none of his damn business?!

28 posted on 05/28/2014 11:01:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Morgana
This is primarily due to corporate sponsors being intimidated if they do not push the gay agenda on the BSA.

The only way for the BSA to survive is to give up the corporate sponsor revenue stream, and stay with private donations and fees.

29 posted on 05/28/2014 11:03:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Morgana

Yea, I really want a man who is sexually attracted to males to be my son’s scoutmaster.


30 posted on 05/28/2014 11:05:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Morgana

Grooming and recruiting.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 11:07:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Morgana

Mitt Romney supported gay Scout leaders 20 years ago, and restated that support after winning the 2012 nomination.

Romney took action against the Boy Scouts in the 2002 Winter Olympics, because of their no-gays stance.


32 posted on 05/28/2014 11:10:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

My son just earned his Eagle. I’m proud of his achievement. It’s the best leadership training in the world. I hate what they are doing to the Boy Scouts now. Why can’t we replace the leadership within the Scouts? Can’t we turn it back?


33 posted on 05/28/2014 11:16:21 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: Morgana

So when can men lead Girl Scout troops, not that there’s anything wrong with it.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 11:20:36 AM PDT by AU72
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To: punknpuss
My son was well on his way to Eagle, and gave it up when they allowed gay scouts he could see the writing on the wall, and wasn't going to spend the hard work only to give it up, when the BSA further folded and allowed his safety to be jeopardized. He also wants to now how a scout can be morally straight and be gay, it did not compute in his mind.

I am proud of him for his convictions, I wish there was something else he could have gotten involved in. He loved being a boy scout.

35 posted on 05/28/2014 11:23:25 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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26 Walt Disney World threatened to not allow employees to volunteer for BSA

Since when can employers not allow people to volunteer for whatever they please?!

Disney does not give direct donations to BSA, but Disney's VoluntEARS program allows its employees to do volunteer work in exchange for cash donations to the charities of their choice. Employees taking part in the VoluntEARS program will no longer be able to submit the funds to BSA. The change goes into effect in JAN 2015.

The Walt Disney Company's "Standards of Business Conduct" includes protections against "harassment or discrimination" based on, amongst other things, "sex, sexual orientation, and gender identification." Disney employees, however, will still be allowed to volunteer with the BSA.

36 posted on 05/28/2014 11:44:22 AM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Morgana

The Boy Sodomites of America deserve to have this POS as their leader. Ta-Ta BSA . . . you used to be a wonderful program, but now you’ve descended to the depths that the Girl Sodomites have sunk.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 11:46:12 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Morgana

The emphasis needs to be placed back on being sexually abstinent. We started down a slippery path to moral degradation when we started accepting premarital sex and divorce as normal. To win this battle we must regain our moral highground.


38 posted on 05/28/2014 12:16:34 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: kcvl

Always be prepared! So send your boy off to camp with a butt plug in his gear. As for bath house Berry he likes to stick his nose in others business.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 1:22:49 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: kcvl
Since when can employers not allow people to volunteer for whatever they please?!

I think it is California that prohibits judges from joining this organization for the same reason.

40 posted on 05/28/2014 1:51:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: kcvl

And California Democrats sought to END statewide bans on Communists in educator roles.

Very telling.


41 posted on 05/28/2014 1:52:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Morgana

Shoot the the queer.. :/


42 posted on 05/28/2014 3:05:13 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: DYngbld

Have your son check out Tail Life USA. Our entire troop switched over. As the Troopmaster, I can unhesitatingly tell you that it is everything you wanted in a Scouting program.


43 posted on 05/28/2014 3:42:21 PM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Morgana

sodomite scouts of america.


44 posted on 05/28/2014 6:28:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: libstripper

With my opinion of most of the legal profession nowadays, I wouldn’t be surprised if many lawyers actually want homosexual adult males as scoutmasters in the hopes that the pedophile incidents would increase. Then they can sue the BSA for instituting the policies the libs wanted in the first place.


45 posted on 05/28/2014 8:16:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: DPMD

An anecdote that shows nothing, proves nothing and is nonsense.


46 posted on 05/29/2014 4:48:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: punknpuss

National is done with this. Scouting happens on the local level with the majority of troops sponsored by churches. It’s a bunch of talk.


47 posted on 05/29/2014 4:49:57 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MacNaughton

Disney is disgusting.


48 posted on 05/29/2014 4:51:02 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

The BSA is on the slope to oblivion, hiring Gates means it’s full speed ahead into depravity


49 posted on 05/29/2014 5:00:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 1010RD

Agreed. No matter what the “official” policy is, there will be good troops and not so good troops. Each parent needs to get to know the scoutmaster and his assistants, and a little about the troop. Some emphasize camping and life skills, while others are more about public service, etc. Find a troop (in our town of 15K there are at least 3 I know of, and more in the surrounding area) that is a good fit. Needless to say, if you find liberal and/or homosexual scouts/leaders, keep looking.


50 posted on 05/29/2014 5:21:29 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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