Skip to comments.Climate Change Doomed the Ancients (Bad History Alert)
Posted on 05/28/2014 11:16:33 AM PDT by mojito
...Senator James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee and a stalwart believer that global warming is a hoax, dismissed the report as a publicity stunt.
Perhaps the senator needs a history lesson, because climate change has been leading to global conflict and even the collapse of civilizations for more than 3,000 years. Drought and famine led to internal rebellions in some societies and the sacking of others, as people fleeing hardship at home became conquerors abroad.
One of the most vivid examples comes from around 1200 B.C. A centuries-long drought in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean regions, contributed to if not caused widespread famine, unrest and ultimately the destruction of many once prosperous cities, according to four recent studies.
The scientists determined the length and severity of the drought by examining ancient pollen as well as oxygen and carbon isotope data drawn from alluvial and mineral deposits. All of their conclusions are corroborated by correspondence, inscribed and fired on clay tablets, dating from that time.
Ancient letters from the Hittite kingdom, in what is now modern-day Turkey, beseech neighboring powers for shipments of grain to stave off famine caused by the drought. (The drought is thought to have affected much of what is now Greece, Israel, Lebanon and Syria for up to 300 years.)
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Now, "history" proves it too.
Uhm...except for the inconvenient fact that the Hittite kingdom of Anatolia wasn't a big consumer of fossil fuels...so maybe closing down coal plants isn't the way to go.
But don't bother to point out the fallacy of the left's arguments, you racist.
they never stop and they never let facts and common sense get in the way
Weather fluctuates...whodda thunk it.
It’s been cooling off for the last 9,000 years. What did ya expect?
If it wasn’t for global warming — Chicago would still be under a mile of ice.
Yes this article Completely destroys their central point and conclusions but they are to stupid to notice. LOL
They unearthed those Anatolian SUVs yet? or a stone tablet depicting those several-miles-long Anatolian tailbacks . . . ?
Perhaps this story is a blessing in disguise...a revelation that the climate has been changing...warmer,cooler,drier,wetter...for tens of thousands of years (at least).
It was all those Sumerian Sport Utility Vehicles* don’t you know?
Dear Mr Weetawded Author.
Your idiotic, though accurate historically account, disproves anthropomorphic or Hooman meddlen as the chief cause of anything, other than a certain avarice or necessity due to causes beyond their control and obviously ours.
Thnx for playing.
This article accidently points out how stupid their entire argument is, not that the typical Times absorber will notice.
If only that cesspool were!
What an idiot. Using naturally occurring droughts and such to debate someone’s skepticism on AWG.
No one really knows why the Hittite empire fell. But climate change is a constant in human history. The old Romans would probably be a little surprised to see their former grain fields in Northern Africa. And I don’t think it was the coal they were burning in their power plants.
Too bad for them they didn’t know how to convert fossils to fuel. Could have saved a lot of lives.
No, it was due to their use of Trierms as they were heavily used, before the period of enlightenment and the industrial age, to transport all manner of goods.
The building of these vessels resulted in the deforestation of Scotland.
These dingy’s were a boon economically for many clans but, I think overall we can agree they also had a devastating effect on the climate as well.
One of the more interesting observations of one born in my era is how far the NYT has fallen in intellect, believability, and most importantly - ability to affect events.
The entire staff would - quite simply - not even be hired as janitors a couple of decades ago.
yeah, the model year 1220 and 1221 Suburbans were a B*TCH on the environment.
Must have been all their SUV’s
Seems to me that all they are “proving” is that climate change is a natural event.
If I remember correctly, what happened to the Hittites, Greeks and Egyptians was a systematic migration of ethnic tribes who came and eventually threw the region into the first Dark Age, very similar to what happened with the Romans and the German tribes.
Yep...It was the SUV’s, the deisel gulping long haul trucks, and all those farting cows....
oops..”i before e, except after c”
Don't forget low population as well; less than 100 million if I recall my ancient history classes from 30 years ago.
You’d get a more accurate rendition of history from the “Mr. Peabody” movie than the NYT ...
Periodic climate change is the rule scientifically as well as historically. That’s life folks, no getting around it. Both globally and regionally, the climate changes for a multitude of reasons. Regional variations are common.
I don’t know a sane person who doesn’t believe in climate change. On the other hand, I meet plenty of good thinkers who don’t believe that human beings in the modern world are causing it.
Who didn’t see this straw man running in from a mile away?
Okay, it all happened before, but humans didn’t have the technology to deal with famine.
It looks to me as if the idiots just blew away their own argument that climate change is caused by man...
Before the Middle Ages Warming Period, there was another warming period centered around the year 1 AD. This means the Romans were able to conquer their largest land area in the Empire during this warm period when the Alps were passable and the winters mild!
Interesting to note, it got a little colder in years 400-800, and this natural climate change possibly contributed to the decline, (along with a list of 200 other things, including plague.)
The author is a moron. There were no civilizations until the climate began to warm.
But the mammoth hunting was great!
"Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed"
Excellent until the last chapter where he starts blaming big corporations as the one of the most environmentally destructive forces in the world today....
Hence our coming demise...
If the ancients were doomed,where did we come from?.
“One of the most vivid examples comes from around 1200 B.C. A centuries-long drought in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean regions”
All due to man made CO2!!! Al Gore said sooooo! /s
Imagine the excessive amount of CO2 expelled into the atmosphere due to the extra heavy breathing that results from exerting oneself to pilot one of these ancient beauties!
Ancient history PING
This can’t be true, the Earth was a green paradise devoid of hardship until Ford invented the automobile.
Libs changed the terminology from global warming to climate change for a couple of reasons. Temperature data was not showing the global warming they were predicting; but likely more important by calling it climate change it is a trap of words. Is there climate change? Of course, anyone that argues that the climate does not change looks like an idiot. The issue is whether or not climate change is caused or made worse by man, that is where they want the water muddied. Conservatives are slow to pick up on the changes in wording- used to denying global warming is man-made now they are trapped into saying climate change is not real. I have heard several candidates say that recently. Just the other morning I watched a Republican candidate asked if climate change was real- and he rapidly replied that climate change is a hoax.
Many issues have been muddied by liberals changing the language. Illegal aliens>illegal immigrants>immigrants...done on purpose to create confusion between illegal immigration and legal immigration. Makes it easier for libs to convince people that those against illegal immigration are just racist. Then they can say- we are a nation of immigrants, we have always welcomed immigration...blah, blah, blah.
Liberals change wording for a reason, we all need to be on our toes.
Oh, for heaven’s sake. Is the New York Times really that stupid, or are they just pretending?
Some info here: http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/EarthSC202Notes/GLACgeog.HTM
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