Skip to comments.Little know (or hidden) facts about r410-a, the environmentalist freon
Posted on 05/29/2014 5:54:09 AM PDT by George from New England
Just encountered this the other day.
The freon that we are all being forced to use as they deny us r22, is a disaster. My 1 1/2 ton central system holds 13 lbs of this freon. It was low by only 1/2 a lb. It's cooling capacity was off 80%. It's electrical consumption was still 100% if not higher than when it is fully charged. But to have the 5% reduction in coolant result and so much energy waste and non-cooling is a flaw and should be a crime -- nobody's talking about it. The hvac tech also could not find a leak after using a sniffer tool. He says there are characteristics about this 410 freon that will cause this degradation over time without any leaks at all. It was last checked by his firm 2 years ago. He is now saying the industry is pushing for 'freon checkups' every six months with r410-a. What the hell are we are heading for ???
Check out a GSHP.
Years ago I read that the push to replace R22 was by Dupont because their patent was expiring.
A GSHP still uses a refrigerant. Coolant is the issue here.
r410 is double the pressure so leaks are more frequent than with r22 systems. It seems the environuts are ok with r410 escaping to the atmosphere cause to them its safer than r22 escaping. I read that the escape concerns from r22 were about chlorine leaking out. What a joke.
In the end the cost of running and maintaining r410 system are higher and the gear starts being troublesome much sooner.
I have 4 systems, three are r22 and they are all older then my one r410 system. The r22 have never leaked or needed coolant added.
"A thousand EPA employees' throats may be cut in one night, by a running man."
And of course, these periodic checkups are not free, but substantially raise the operating costs that the EPA did not care to figure in when they required the manufacturer to calculate costs for purposes of that informative performance notice they must attach to every unit.
Moreover, there is no accounting in this for the environmental burden of having a service technician drive his truck to every customer’s house twice a year for this. Over the life-cycle of the equipment all these issue add up in oh so many ways.
Yet another way the enviro-libs are saving the planet using bureaucrats with guns.
Freon was the best coolant for this purpose ever invented.
But the company patents were going to run out, and it was worth $trillions
So... with the aid of enviro-weenies they get their own product banned, and introduce a new product that is many times worse
And discover the power of enviro-weenies in controlling the government
You were correct.
But you and I do.
13 lbs seems like too large a quantity for 1 1/2 ton unit. I think a 3 ton sys only uses 7.5 lbs.
Looks like same issues as when we used R-12 for automotive stuff. They said it was dangerous,yada,yada,yada. Best refrigerant ever for automotive & the idiots made it so expensive it was not profitable to use anymore. Same anthropogenic “climate change” bunch causing this,I’m sure. They seem to manage to screw up everything.
r410-a is known to damage the seals and create leaks.
The entire freon/ozone layer issue is a hoax.
I read an article a few years ago that said there was an error in the calculation on the environmental effects study of r-22. That error resulted in R-22 appearing 10 times worse for the environment that it actually is.
It like R12 is likely still available south of the border.
R-12, R-22, DDT, et.al. will come back years from now when/if sanity has returned.
R-12 for cars was replaced by R-134a, and that was the rumor 20 years ago, back in the early 1990s. I worked at Autozone at the time, and the switchover meant that one day we could sell Average Joe a can of R-12, and the next we could not. We could still sell it, but only to licensed A/C techs/shops. The only thing we could sell to everyone was R-134a.
Not sure about the R-22 issue with respect to household systems. Probably the same deal.
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