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Toddler critically injured by ‘flash bang’ during police search
www.ajc.com ^ | 5/29/14 | Alexis Stevens

Posted on 05/29/2014 5:26:52 PM PDT by armydawg505

A 19-month-old boy critically injured when a police device was tossed into his bed has a 50 percent chance of surviving, his parents said today. But a northeast Georgia sheriff defends the officers’ actions, calling it a tragic accident. “The last thing you want is law enforcement to injure someone innocent,” Habersham County Sheriff Joey Terrell told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “There was no malicious act performed. It was a terrible accident that was never supposed to happen.” Hours after a confidential informant said he bought methamphetamine from Wanis Thometheva at a Habersham County home late Tuesday, officers returned to the home to arrest him.

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KEYWORDS: bootlicker; donutwatch; flashbang; georgia; policestate; toddler; tragic; tragicaccident; wenthomesafe; wod
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3am, a no knock warrant, the flash bang gernade lands in the playpen and the baby's face and chest are ripped open. I dont know how this could have been avoided unless the cops waited until maybe 6:30am when they would have still been asleep but it is daylight. Now the cop that threw the grenade has to live with this the rest of his life. However, the bottom line is if no drugs had been sold out of the house, no cops would have been there at 3am.
1 posted on 05/29/2014 5:26:52 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

But who went home safely that night, eh??


2 posted on 05/29/2014 5:28:14 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: armydawg505

If I can be charged with a crime that was done by accident so should the police. Two sets of laws are not acceptable.


3 posted on 05/29/2014 5:28:40 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: armydawg505

Will the collectivists start calling the cops baby killers?


4 posted on 05/29/2014 5:29:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: armydawg505

Well gee perhaps if they didn’t blindly follow some informants story and maybe checked into the house before throwing bombs around they wouldn’t have killed a baby who had nothing to do with drugs.

But hey they got a drug arrest. That’ll look good come annual performance time.

After all its just another future criminal they’d have to arrest when he got older.


5 posted on 05/29/2014 5:32:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: armydawg505
Warrants didn't used to be carried out like this. And the bad guys got arrested anyway.

It's time to dial down the military style aggression by law enforcement.

/johnny

6 posted on 05/29/2014 5:33:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimpick

Well cmon, just because he threw it in the babies playpen doesn’t mean he should be responsible.


7 posted on 05/29/2014 5:33:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: armydawg505

What makes you think cops haven’t killed innocent people before when they attack the wrong house? That could happen to any of our families...unless you are living in a tony gated neighborhood.


8 posted on 05/29/2014 5:34:56 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: JRandomFreeper

The kid is just acceptable collateral damage in the war on drugs. Never mind the president is supporting use of drugs and encouraging the people who sell it.


9 posted on 05/29/2014 5:36:26 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: armydawg505

I do note the absence of Dawgs in the story, so at least the cops didn’t do anything indiscriminately. ..


10 posted on 05/29/2014 5:36:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: armydawg505

All this, to make sure the occupants didn’t have the opportunity to destry evidence (drugs).


11 posted on 05/29/2014 5:39:04 PM PDT by umgud
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To: armydawg505

Now the cop that threw the grenade has to live with this the rest of his life.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

All take notice - pity to the cop - not the sleeping child that the cop threw a grenade at. Yup, too bad for the cop. Well, that kid should not have chosen a drug dealer to live with.


12 posted on 05/29/2014 5:39:49 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: armydawg505

Judging by the TV movies that I see today, American cops have morphed into jack-booted thugs. What happened to the “good old boy on the beat”?
All I see today is “Get on the ground..GET ON THE GROUND, NOW”


13 posted on 05/29/2014 5:39:50 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: txrefugee

The cops are totally out of control. And the reason is there are too many idiots who believe all cops are wonderful examples of men. When most of them are uneducated fat, lazy thugs on a power trip. It won’t be long before no innocent people will be safe from those who are supposed to protect and serve. We’ll all be cavity searched and put in jail to rot away like a Marine in Mexico. All because too many people think cops only arrest guilty people.

I would do everything I could to help someone get elected who would run on a “The cops are out of control” platform.


14 posted on 05/29/2014 5:40:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: armydawg505
...."injure someone innocent." Hey A$$hat we are all innocent till proved guilty. Another jerk cop.
15 posted on 05/29/2014 5:41:36 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: AlexW

I saw a fat cop pull his gun on someone in a very crowded supermarket parking lot yelling “Get on the fu..king ground! On the fu..king ground!” Women and kids all over the place. The guy he was screaming at was looking around with that “You screaming at me?” look. He didn’t arrest the man and nobody knows what the hell the cop was doing.

I called the guy’s precinct station to complain and was told they didn’t have a cop in that area. Lying bastards.


16 posted on 05/29/2014 5:43:22 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: 4yearlurker

Wrong! To the cops and the DA EVERYONE is guilty until they prove themselves innocent. I told that to a DA once and she got mad but couldn’t present an argument proving me wrong. I won the argument by saying “If you really thought everyone was innocent until proven guilty you’d present the facts at trial and not always go for a conviction. And don’t tell me you haven’t prosecuted people you thought were innocent.” She walked away.


17 posted on 05/29/2014 5:45:51 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: armydawg505

You and your type make me sick. Defending these irrational thugs. You are disgraceful and you define what’s gone wrong with this once-fine country.


18 posted on 05/29/2014 5:47:57 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: armydawg505

What that cop has to live with is nothing compared to what the toddler has to live with. There is almost never justification for no knock warrants.


19 posted on 05/29/2014 5:48:20 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: armydawg505
Turn off the water, then the occupants can only flush evidence once.
No need for Nazi tactics then.

20 posted on 05/29/2014 5:49:24 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: VerySadAmerican
You can't enforce the law by breaking the law, but lots of LE try.

/johnny

21 posted on 05/29/2014 5:50:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: VerySadAmerican

The cops now get their training from the stupid TV drama shows.


22 posted on 05/29/2014 5:51:48 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: armydawg505

The bottom like is no Amendment authorizing a new Prohibition was added to the Constitution. The 18th and the 21st establish the entire scope of, and the authorized methods to create prohibitions. Call what it is, unconstitutional prohibition.


23 posted on 05/29/2014 5:52:03 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: armydawg505

Now the cop that threw the grenade has to live with this the rest of his life. However, the bottom line is if no drugs had been sold out of the house, no cops would have been there at 3am.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So you are a witness to the selling of drugs out of the house?
Tell us how that happened, while you and your cop buddies go straight to hell.


24 posted on 05/29/2014 5:53:41 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: txrefugee

That could happen to any of our families...unless you are living in a tony gated neighborhood.


Respectfully, not necessarily :(

http://ridgefield.dailyvoice.com/police-fire/police-man-shot-killed-ridgefield-was-founder-danbury-museum

I know a few locals, and they claim this shooting stinks to high heaven.


25 posted on 05/29/2014 5:53:48 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: armydawg505

“Can I throw the grenade? Can I? Can I?”

“You know it’s Carl’s turn. You can shoot the dogs, though.”

“Oh boy, gonna shoot the dogs. Gonna shoot the dogs.”


26 posted on 05/29/2014 5:53:59 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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I dont know how this could have been avoided

You can't be serious.

They could have gone to the front door, announced their presence and their warrant and gained entry. But then they wouldn't get to play with their pricey toys.

That child may never play with another toy.
27 posted on 05/29/2014 5:54:14 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: umgud
All this, to make sure the occupants didn’t have the opportunity to destry evidence (drugs).

If you can quickly flush drugs down the toilet, you're small-time.

There's two types of drug dealers; those who use forklifts and those who don't.

28 posted on 05/29/2014 5:57:28 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: armydawg505

No knock. The flash bang was the first thing they did?

How is this not a crime?


29 posted on 05/29/2014 5:57:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: armydawg505

The cops initiated the violence without reason and without evidence, the whole bunch should be sitting in cells.


30 posted on 05/29/2014 5:59:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: driftdiver

Cops should have to watch the place, find some kind of evidence and then try a non-violent method of arrest if possible. If your first action is a grenade without even having a shred of evidence, you are a thug and a gang banger, badge or not


31 posted on 05/29/2014 6:01:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
If I were a judge, I wouldn't sign a no-knock warrant based on the word of a 'confidential informant'.

/johnny

32 posted on 05/29/2014 6:01:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Me either.


33 posted on 05/29/2014 6:03:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: armydawg505

that is not true.

there have been plenty of homeowners who have had cops do no-knmocks because they went to the wrong house. way too many. they’ve thought they were being home invaded - and they WERE - but by the g-damn cops.


34 posted on 05/29/2014 6:03:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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However, the bottom line is if no drugs had been sold out of the house,

And when was the last time a confidential informant (who may or may not exist) lied to the cops.

If the local grand jury had any balls the cop would be under indictment for felonious assault and attempted murder. Maybe the chance of being incarcerated in the general population would give these cops a second thought about executing their midnight knocks on the door with grenades.

35 posted on 05/29/2014 6:04:49 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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It was a terrible accident that was never supposed to happen.

It's not an accident when you purposely throw an explosive in someone's house.

36 posted on 05/29/2014 6:05:08 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: armydawg505

no-knock warrants in the middle of the night are ridiculous. Whether you are a criminal or not, your instinct is self-defense. How safe is that for any of the parties involved? It’s not. They need to be rare.


37 posted on 05/29/2014 6:05:32 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: armydawg505

“Now the cop that threw the grenade has to live with this the rest of his life.”

Given the sad reality that most of the “Armed & Armored Ubermenschen” have all the sensitivity of ill bred reptiles, I am sure the Flash/Bang pitcher will lose perhaps an hour of sleep.

And that will be wondering if any civil suit might be filed that his insurance and union can’t make go away.


38 posted on 05/29/2014 6:09:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: armydawg505

More destroyed lives all because of no knocks and today’s cops are out of control thugs who are worse than the criminals they’re after.


39 posted on 05/29/2014 6:12:29 PM PDT by bgill
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To: armydawg505

In a just America he cop who threw the grenade and his boss who authorized it would be prosecuted ,and people like you would be ridiculed for the bootlicker you are based on your posting.


40 posted on 05/29/2014 6:12:44 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: LostInBayport
They could have gone to the front door, announced their presence and their warrant and gained entry. But then they wouldn't get to play with their pricey toys.

Reminds me of the Pima County SWAT team that riddled Jose Guerena with 60 bullets. Instead of having a detective serve the warrant and walk Guerena to a squad car, they chose a paramilitary assault. Naturally, being the corrupt wanne-be Rambos that they are, they lied about seeing muzzle flashes from inside the house. They had the privilege of paying his widow 3.4 million plus all the costs of getting to that settlement. Bet the taxpayers appreciate that! I hope the responsible government entities and personnel in this case get soaked. If not, who knows, perhaps blowing up sleeping infants will be the new rage among uniformed thugs looking to get their rocks off? It's probably more satisfying to them than just blasting barkers.
41 posted on 05/29/2014 6:25:24 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: driftdiver

i missed the sarc tag there.


42 posted on 05/29/2014 6:27:32 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: armydawg505

If I was sympathizing with the cops I would not have posted an article like this. A gernade is thrown into a playpen and no one seems to think an investigation is even warranted? Not the Sheriff, not the GA Bureau of Investigation, no one? There are many ways to get into the house without violence before trying force: turn off the water and electricity and telephones, use loud speakers to announce your presence, allow the innocents to come out, search release them. But its far more macho to bust the door down at 3am and go back to the station yuk yuking about the looks on their faces when you got in the house.


43 posted on 05/29/2014 6:32:02 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: loungitude

44 posted on 05/29/2014 6:32:27 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: armydawg505

The article says they cops didn’t know any children were in the house. It also says the man they were trying to arrest was not there. They arrested him later, at another house.

They clearly did not do any surveillance of the place. None. Nada. Zip. That


45 posted on 05/29/2014 6:34:06 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: armydawg505

“Now the cop that threw the grenade has to live with this the rest of his life.”

And if it had been my grand-child, he/she would have to die with it for the rest of his/her short life...


46 posted on 05/29/2014 6:36:09 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: GladesGuru

You never know...he might decide to claim PTSD, go on disability leave and retire at a higher pension rate.


47 posted on 05/29/2014 6:39:33 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: armydawg505

All this because of some dirt bag CI trying to save his own skin?

How about staking out the house to follow up on the information first?

How about determining who the occupants of the house are?

Nope, right to WWIII military operations.


48 posted on 05/29/2014 6:41:02 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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“But a northeast Georgia sheriff defends the officers’ actions, calling it a tragic accident.”

NO, this is not a tragic accident. This is another example of pigs making others pay the price so that they can avoid any possibility, however slight, of harm.

Flashbangs are a MILITARY device, meant as a weapon of WAR, for tactical missions in which killing the target is not desired, or you don’t want to destroy equipment. that doesn’t make it safe. In war, if a flashbang harms an enemy, no one really cares.

Cops, and some here wonder why so many people have a massive hate for cops. Well, this is one example of why.
This happened a few months ago where cops raided a house on suspicion of of a meth lab. And they were wrong. Innocent family, innocent little girl burned so the big bad pigs could stay safe from the Boogeyman. AND THEY DIDN’T learn. They never do.


49 posted on 05/29/2014 6:41:45 PM PDT by LevinFan
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>>>The kid is just acceptable collateral damage in the war on drugs. Never mind the president is supporting use of drugs and encouraging the people who sell it.

The war on drugs is the most idiotic of our foreign and domestic policies. We spend tax dollars protecting the poppy harvest in Afghanistan on the one hand, and spend tax dollars arresting people selling the products of the poppy harvest on the other.

Its the height of hypocrisy.

50 posted on 05/29/2014 6:43:59 PM PDT by NELSON111
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