Skip to comments.State Dept. Condemns ‘Honor Killings,’ But No Mention of Religion As a Factor
Posted on 05/30/2014 2:57:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai
The State Department on Thursday condemned the stoning of death of a Pakistani woman and other violence against women in the name of tradition and honor, but made no reference to religion as a factor. [ ]
Tragically, this was at least the third reported so-called honor killing in Pakistan this week, said department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, reacting to the killing of a pregnant 25-year-old, stoned to death outside a Lahore courthouse by members of her own family for marrying against their wishes.
We remain very concerned about violence against women and girls that takes place around the world, including in Pakistan, Psaki continued. We are especially concerned about the violence that occurs in the name of tradition and honor such as so-called honor killings and other unjustifiable acts of violence.
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We mustnt offend 0s brothers.
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Meanwhile, in the USA more than 3/4 of murder victims are male.
The media focus on the "war against women" implies that the far more numerous male victims of violence are less important.
There are not illogical reasons for this opinion, but since the media never covers the larger number of male victims, I suspect many people believe women are actually victimized more frequently.
The media covers violence against men when it fits an aspect of their agenda, such as "racism" or anti-gun activism. Other than that, though, it's a very good point.
A special concern about violence against women and girls would be based on the fact that healthy (and alive) women are necessary for the survival of the human species. However, our "cultural elites" now oppose the survival of the human species, which creates disarray in their "reasoning."
90% of those incarcerated are male. This is a much, much greater disproportion to their percentage of the population than the black/white disproportion so often cited as proof of racist law enforcement.
But everybody is able to recognize that the reason more males are in the slammer is because they commit more and more violent crimes than women. This is also of course the reason more blacks, proportionately, are in prison, but people seem to find it a lot more difficult to admit it.
Well, theoretically there could be Christian, Jewish and Buddhist honor killings.
In tribal societies such as Ethiopia’s, the treatment of girls/women doesn’t differ much between Christians and Moslems. Child marriage, for example, is extremely common in Ethiopia and not limited to Moslems.
Hindus practice something similar to honor killing - the murder of brides over dowry disputes, for example. There is also an ingrained custom of raping women in the course of financial or sectarian disputes between groups of men.
That reminds me of one of my favorite quotes. The one about how the British, when they ran India in the 1800s, stopped the Hindu practice of suttee. The Hindu men protested, saying it was their custom. A British soldier reportedly replied, "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them."
Attributed to General Sir Charles Napier.
Thanks for posting this. A great many people want to blame on Islam all the abhorrent practices of anybody who is Muslim.
But unfortunately, many of these practices are not necessarily required by Islam as such.
For example, take the practice of female genital mutilation. This is most widely practiced in Africa, where I know both pagan cultures and Muslim culture practice it. I don’t know about “Christian” societies in sub-Saharan Africa, but I suspect many of them maintain this practice after converting, as many of them have kept the practice of polygamy.
I do know that among Coptic Christians in Egypt FGM is about 90% prevalent, as it is among Egyptian Muslims.
Meanwhile there are many Muslim cultures where this abhorrent custom is unknown.
Islam has lots and lots of specifically Muslim practices that justify denunciation. Let’s not dilute this criticism by including cultural practices that are not inherently Muslim in origin, regardless of what those practicing them believe.
I think it’s important to be as accurate as possible. Many cultures of the Middle East, Africa, and especially India are centuries-to-millennia older than Mohammed’s religion, and their conversion to Islam was often centuries after that religion’s founding. Islam arrived in parts of India in the late middle ages, for example.
Especially when we look at Africa and India, many of what we consider “Islamic” cultural abominations long predate Islam, and are generalized across a large cultural swathe, usually regardless of the people’s religion.