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Child burned by distraction device during raid (Follow up)
www.accessnorthga.com ^ | May 29, 2014 | Rob Moore

Posted on 05/30/2014 5:26:33 AM PDT by armydawg505

CLARKESVILLE - Habersham County Sheriff Joey Terrell now is talking about the high-risk warrant service that resulted in burns to a 2-year-old child early Wednesday.

The child was burned when narcotics agents, assisted by members of the Habersham Special Response Team, used a distraction device as they entered a home at 182 Lakeview Heights Circle outside Cornelia.

"We had prior information on it," Terrell said of the circumstances of the home and its occupants. "The individual had been involved in an altercation with another male involving a possible AK-47 [rifle] several months ago, and he was arrested on some weapons charges. Supposedly that was about drugs."

Terrell said agents followed standard procedure prior to obtaining a search warrant and planning the raid.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; flashbang; georgia; policestate; toddler; tragedy
""According to the confidential informant, there were no children," Terrell said. "When they made the buy, they didn't see any children or any evidence of children there, so we proceeded with our standard operation." Now information has come out that there was a vehicle parked either in the driveway or in front of the house containing children's car seats and toys.

"We check the door; if it's unlocked we enter," Terrell said. "The door was locked, so they breached the door. There was an obstruction at the door. They tossed a 'flash bang' The "obstruction" was the playpen.

"We keep asking ourselves, 'how did this happen?'," Terrell said. "No one can answer that - you can't answer that. You try and do everything right. Bad things can happen. That's just the world we live in. Bad things happen to good people.

"The baby didn't deserve this," Terrell said. "The family didn't deserve this - this family was displaced from another home down here and apparently just moved in with her."

Terrell said both the district attorney and Georgia Bureau of Investigation have said there was no wrongdoing on the SRT's part.

"I've talked to the D.A., I've talked to the GBI," Terrell said. "I've given them the whole information and they say there's nothing else we can do. There's nothing to investigate, there's nothing to look at." Translation: Nothing to see here, we decided no investigation is needed so everyone move on.

1 posted on 05/30/2014 5:26:33 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

So, what did more damage, on all scales of measure -

the guy buying some drugs,
or the militarized “police” “breaching” the man’s home and burning a toddler with one of their “toys”?


2 posted on 05/30/2014 5:28:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505

When you have police investigating police its always the same answer.


3 posted on 05/30/2014 5:30:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: armydawg505
notice the softening of the language - a FLASH BANG is now a soothing distraction device

People don't want to hear about a 2 yr old getting a flash bang in its play pen....so the child was merely distracted, not burned by an incendiary device they delivered on poor intel

4 posted on 05/30/2014 5:32:12 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: armydawg505

Flash-bang grenades are now fastidiously refered to as “distraction devices”. You know Sheriff Terrell is running scared.


5 posted on 05/30/2014 5:32:19 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: MrB

I like how they are now using “used a distraction device” instead of what it really was, a flash bang grenade.


6 posted on 05/30/2014 5:32:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: armydawg505

“”We keep asking ourselves, ‘how did this happen?’,” Terrell said. “No one can answer that - you can’t answer that. You try and do everything right. Bad things can happen. That’s just the world we live in. Bad things happen to good people.”

Gee, I had no problem figuring out what happened. The police threw an explosive not knowing what was there. It could have been a playpen, a bookcase, a pile of bowling balls, a passed out drunk or a stash of nito or TNT or gasoline. They didn’t think it mattered at the time.


7 posted on 05/30/2014 5:33:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: driftdiver
And it's really a concussion grenade. But it winds up having shrapnel, for all that it's designed not to.

/johnny

8 posted on 05/30/2014 5:34:59 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: armydawg505

> both the district attorney and Georgia Bureau of Investigation
> have said there was no wrongdoing on the SRT’s part.

Of course not. There never is any wrongdoing on the cops part. Not even when they murder innocent people and children. Hey, if there weren’t any criminals among us, they wouldn’t have to be so tough on us, right?


9 posted on 05/30/2014 5:35:26 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: armydawg505
A few weeks ago the local SWAT team staked out a house down the block. They were looking for stolen guns.

I asked one of the officers why they waited until 9am to surround the house. He said they knew there were kids in the house and wanted to wait until they went to school.

It was kind of a weird situation. They sat outside and used a bullhorn to urge the occupants to either come out or pick up the phone. They didn't break in. After a few hours they left a token force. Later the guy came home and the situation was resolved.

10 posted on 05/30/2014 5:36:22 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: MrB

> So, what did more damage, on all scales of measure -
>
> the guy buying some drugs,
> or the militarized “police” “breaching” the man’s home and
> burning a toddler with one of their “toys”?

Couldn’t have said it better myself.


11 posted on 05/30/2014 5:37:33 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sounds like that could have been accomplished with Andy Taylor sitting in his Sheriff’s car waiting for the guy to come home.


12 posted on 05/30/2014 5:38:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Dr. Sivana
The police threw an explosive not knowing what was there.

"Know your target and what's behind it" for firearms,
but not for grenades?

13 posted on 05/30/2014 5:39:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

These no-knock raids are conducted for one reason; To overcome the occupants quickly to keep them from destroying evidence.

This is bullshit.


14 posted on 05/30/2014 5:41:33 AM PDT by umgud
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To: MrB
It was exciting for a while, but yeah, you are right.

I was really surprised they didn't force entry. I didn't think to ask why not.

I live about five miles from downtown Detroit. My city has about half the population of Detroit. We've had one murder in the last two years.

15 posted on 05/30/2014 5:43:05 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: armydawg505

Thread:
Toddler critically injured by ‘flash bang’ during police search
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3161587/posts


16 posted on 05/30/2014 5:45:40 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Former Proud Canadian
My city has about half the population of Detroit. We've had one murder in the last two years.

Not enough "diversity" in your city, obviously... ;)

17 posted on 05/30/2014 5:47:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: driftdiver

Here’s my argument. Since the cops didn’t have any problems walking up to the house to buy drugs why not jut go back to buy some more and then arrest the person as they are at the door making the purchase. These no knock raids are ridiculous.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 5:49:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: armydawg505

What is a “distraction device” to the police is a bomb, subject to NFA Destructive Device laws, when we peasants have them. When is a bomb not a bomb? Peasants with bombs of less power than flash-bang grenades have been charged with possession of weapons of mass destruction. Making the police, which have devices of greater power, organized terrorist groups. (Unless a caste system of entailing double standards exist.)


19 posted on 05/30/2014 5:50:17 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: MrB

Well, recently we are getting a lot of diversity, from overseas. Things are changing, rapidly. I plan to leave soon for a more bucolic setting.


20 posted on 05/30/2014 5:52:18 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Thinking about your situation, I imagine what someone like Chris Matthews or Melissa HP would say.

You have a lifestyle you like, in a low crime city, and when people move in that would destroy your lifestyle and your safety, when you want to move away, YOU are the bad buy, the “racist”.

Just goes to support my assertion that the left is NOT really about raising up those who live in bad conditions,

but of destroying the good environments of those that live in them.


21 posted on 05/30/2014 5:57:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505

The cops should all be in jail


22 posted on 05/30/2014 5:58:28 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MrB
but of destroying the good environments of those that live in them.

Of course the Left live in their nice gated communities.

23 posted on 05/30/2014 5:59:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: driftdiver

Bump


24 posted on 05/30/2014 5:59:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: driftdiver

how about knocking on the back door and then coming thru the front....That’s distracting isn’t it.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 5:59:49 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Throwing a grenade is so much easier than doing actual police work


26 posted on 05/30/2014 6:00:32 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Absurd! What kind of evil hearted, no good, person are you?

You would use common sense and deny these poor guys their entertainment!?


27 posted on 05/30/2014 6:03:32 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thats the boring way. They wouldn’t get to use all their cool toyz.


28 posted on 05/30/2014 6:04:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: armydawg505

I suppose the only LEGAL recourse is voting this unconstitutional sheriff out of office come next election.Under the ridiculous immunity doctrines ,no law enforcement person ever personally loses money even in the few instances a ruling is in favor of the injured innocent party.


29 posted on 05/30/2014 6:15:40 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: armydawg505

They forgot to mention that they likely blew out the poor kid’s ear drums...And maybe ruptured all the blood vessels in his eyes...


30 posted on 05/30/2014 6:29:18 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: dfwgator

Again, leftists are all about elitism, defined as “having a huge difference between their lifestyle and that of the majority of people”. It’s not the “level” of lifestyle that’s important to them, but the DIFFERENCE. They’d rather be at 80 and everyone else at 10 than be at 99 and everyone else at 60.

There’s only so far you can go on the “up” side to increase that difference, so it’s far easier to destroy the lifestyle of the middle class masses.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 6:31:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GeronL
Throwing a grenade is so much easier than doing actual police work

Plus it's a great adrenaline rush for the cops. They have cool toys and can't wait to use them.

32 posted on 05/30/2014 6:35:04 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: armydawg505

All those kids in Waco got “burned” by a “distraction device” too. Don’t ya just love all the “1984” style NewSpeak that’s foisted on us my a compliant media?


33 posted on 05/30/2014 7:49:55 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: driftdiver

Just like it working so well when mac daddy has members of his sock puppet administration investigate other members of his sock upper administration.


34 posted on 05/30/2014 8:38:30 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: armydawg505
These "distraction devices" were once known as flash-bang grenades. A combination of bright flash and concussion is supposed to disorient the person(s) being raided enough to give the raiders the upper hand.

Sanitizing and minimizing the event are only the beginning.

All the signs were there that children might be present, but they went ahead anyway. That's negligent.

35 posted on 05/30/2014 8:43:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: armydawg505

They keep asking themselves “How did this happen?” — because for one thing they did not exercise proper care and due diligence.

From the original story you posted yesterday:

// Thometheva was not at the home at the time of the raid but was later arrested at another house on a felony drug charge of distribution of meth. ...

... Officers had no indication that any children were inside the Lakeview Heights home when they returned around 3 a.m. Wednesday, Terrell said, and approached the same door where drugs had been purchased.

But this time, the device landed in the playpen where a toddler was sleeping. Little Bounkham “Bou Bou” Phonesavanhs and his family, including parents and three older sisters, were all asleep in the room while visiting from Wisconsin. Only the little boy was injured. //

Obviously they had no CLUE what or who was in that house if 1) the person they want isn’t there and 2) a family of 6 (SIX) *is* there that they were unaware of.

Btw, the reason that family (allegedly) was there is that “ The family was only supposed to be in Georgia temporarily after a fire at their Wisconsin home, the Phonesavanhs said.”

THIS IS WRONG.


36 posted on 05/30/2014 8:50:07 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Distraction Device” is someone waving a sign and yelling “yoo hoo, look over here!”

I’m sure that cops wouldn’t treat a GRENADE thrown into THEIR homes or police station as they would a “distraction device”.


37 posted on 05/30/2014 8:52:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Iscool

Well they said they had info from a CI not seeing any children so what’s the problem? So does anyone believe that the CI would lie or even care?

It’s a sad sad case, but the swat team went home safe, they arrested the perp and they are blameless.

How long before the swat teams will be justified to use tanks to blow up houses after having authority from some judge on info from a CI?

How come they were unable to get in before the flash bang was used but were able to get in after it was used?


38 posted on 05/30/2014 8:54:32 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: MrB
When they set one off inside their body armor, I'll believe it is just a "distraction device".

When these things first came out there were cautions that they could be lethal to an adult at close range.

39 posted on 05/30/2014 8:56:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: armydawg505
"We keep asking ourselves, 'how did this happen?'," Terrell said. "No one can answer that - you can't answer that.

The answer is because we have jack booted thugs inforcing warrants instead of police officers in the normal course of their daily work. SWAT teams are a symptom that the police are at war with the citizens. The poor baby sleeping in his crib was just collateral damage and to be expected.

40 posted on 05/30/2014 9:05:34 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: Iscool
They also caused thoracic injuries. Here's the kid:

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41 posted on 05/30/2014 9:16:14 AM PDT by FBD
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To: armydawg505

COVERUP !!!


42 posted on 05/30/2014 10:09:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves.)
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To: Revelation 911

FLASH BANG = distraction device = small explosive


43 posted on 05/30/2014 10:17:03 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

I missed placing my question mark at the end - changes my whole tenor of the second sentence- Im as against this as you


44 posted on 06/02/2014 3:21:05 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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