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Hawaiian man fined $200 for making son walk mile home from school as punishment
NEW YORK DAILY NEW ^ | Friday, May 30, 2014, 10:21 AM | BY LEE MORAN

Posted on 05/30/2014 10:04:06 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

A Hawaiian man has been sentenced to one year of probation for making his misbehaving son walk a mile home from school.

Robert Demond was also fined $200 and ordered to attend parenting classes after a judge called the punishment "old-school" and "no longer appropriate."

"These are different times," Judge Kathleen Watanabe told the defendant.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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Yeah, these are different times...unfortunately.
1 posted on 05/30/2014 10:04:06 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hawaii Is a 20th Century MISTAKE “State”!


2 posted on 05/30/2014 10:05:01 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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I wonder what’s in these parenting classes. “It’s not your job to discipline your child. That now belongs to the state”.


3 posted on 05/30/2014 10:06:18 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

??

Surely there is more to it than that? $200 fine for what? What is the problem with walking a mile?

“Had to sell the car to pay it though” should be his next words.


4 posted on 05/30/2014 10:06:24 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Totally goofy that some islands in the middle of the Pacific are part of this country.


5 posted on 05/30/2014 10:06:31 AM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

How old is the kid? Does that dumb judge have a suggestion or just the usual tripe?


6 posted on 05/30/2014 10:07:01 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: all the best

Not goofy at all. The Generals had to have SOME reason for their trips to play golf.


7 posted on 05/30/2014 10:08:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Different times alright.

This is the age of the death of reason.

8 posted on 05/30/2014 10:09:09 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The father pleaded no contest to the misdemeanor charge.

That was his first mistake.

Well, maybe not his first. I would like to know the age of the child.


9 posted on 05/30/2014 10:10:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GeronL

There were days in high school when I had to run the mile. Twice.


10 posted on 05/30/2014 10:10:58 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Uphill? Both ways? In six feet of snow? To listen to my Dad tell it, the kid had it easy...


11 posted on 05/30/2014 10:11:26 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: all the best

Islands are for military uses. The inhabitants, like most island species undergo a gradual reduction in size. In the case of Hawaiian “persons”, the reduction was in cranial capacity and cognitive capability.

Now you know why Hawaii is a population of collectivists and their Nanny State gubment.


12 posted on 05/30/2014 10:11:35 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The idiot judge calls that hike home “old school”? He never met my Dad.


13 posted on 05/30/2014 10:11:42 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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And maybe if he made the kid to a mountain top it would be a mile, uphill through the snow.
14 posted on 05/30/2014 10:12:04 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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Please tell me that there is more to this story...
Like Dad was chasing him down with his car.
Or he was beating him with a stick the entire mile.
Or something ... walking one mile is a 'treat' (particularly in Hawaii in May)... Not exactly your Bataan's Death March.
15 posted on 05/30/2014 10:12:04 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yeah, Recall time.


16 posted on 05/30/2014 10:19:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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Why in my day we had to walk through the lava fields, and sometimes the lava was almost up to my chest. and let me tell you it was almost 7 miles and uphill BOTH ways. Kids now a days are just soft


17 posted on 05/30/2014 10:20:34 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertatian)
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To: El Cid

Can I ask a stupid question? How did law enforcement even find out about.this? Did the kid call the cops when he got home, and report his dad? Did he tell a teacher in school, who decided that this was unlawful punishment? How the heck does the legal system even get involved in reviewing discipline of a child????


18 posted on 05/30/2014 10:20:41 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’m glad i was never punished.

We live a little less than a mile from our school, therefore, ineligible for the school bus service.

My daughter WALKS to school occasionally if for some reason, I cannot take her to school on my way to work.


19 posted on 05/30/2014 10:21:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I’m glad i was never punished.

We live a little less than a mile from our school, therefore, ineligible for the school bus service.

My daughter WALKS to school occasionally if for some reason, I cannot take her to school on my way to work.


20 posted on 05/30/2014 10:21:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I wonder what they will do to him for taking the $200 out of the kids allowance.


21 posted on 05/30/2014 10:21:43 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The article doesn't say how old the child is. Was he 15, or 8? The judge also noted that the child would have had to walk home along a highway.

If you read the original source:

Father punished for ‘old school’ discipline

Hover over the link, and you'll notice the domain is "thegardenisland.com". That's Kauai. And the man is identified as living in Kilauea, which is on the north side.

I've been to Kauai, and spent a week just up the road in Princeville. The only highway in that part of the island is a two lane road, and there aren't any sidewalks.

At first glance, this is outrageous. But, if you dig a bit deeper, you have to wonder if the truth is somewhere in the middle.

22 posted on 05/30/2014 10:21:47 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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23 posted on 05/30/2014 10:21:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hey, at least he didn’t have to carry a twenty-something pound stone, like that other (4’2” 16 year old) did!


24 posted on 05/30/2014 10:22:24 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: justlurking

does someone need sidewalks to walk?


25 posted on 05/30/2014 10:22:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I walked half a mile almost everyday to school through the best 40 acre field that ever was. Two stock ponds, 2 1920’s cars, one 200 foot hill, one creek, wild blackberry bushes, skunks, o-possums, racoons, snakes, spiders, squirrels, ducks, geese, cats, dogs, motorcycles, trails everywhere made by all the kids in the surrounding neighborhood. No cell phones. Amazing I made it to school on time.


26 posted on 05/30/2014 10:23:30 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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Abraham Lincoln’s parents would have been punished.

SOURCE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Boyhood_National_Memorial

In November 1819, the area’s first school was opened by Andrew Crawford, and at age 10, Abraham attended a school for the first time, at a cost of two dollars per year. He was a student there for two school years, which were three-month intervals held during the winter months when the children were not needed for farming.

In 1822 the Lincolns enrolled the boy in a new school taught by James Swaney. As it was more than 4 miles (6.4 km) away and Abraham had to walk there, his attendance was poor.

In 1824 he was transferred to another school closer to home, which he attended until age 16, when he ended formal schooling.


27 posted on 05/30/2014 10:24:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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only a mile; in HI; I used to live in HI, walking
wasn't a punishment, but a pleasure & saved gas.
crawling/walking/running; the original modes of transportation.

28 posted on 05/30/2014 10:27:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/father-punished-for-old-school-discipline/article_74fc9c34-e705-11e3-b1ea-001a4bcf887a.html

That is the original article from the Kauai newspaper.

It doesn't say how it happened to come to the attention of the prosecuting attorney. From 1956 through 1965 (age 5-14) I walked 3/4 mile to school, home for lunch, back to school, home at end of day.
29 posted on 05/30/2014 10:28:42 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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does someone need sidewalks to walk?

No, but you do need a space to walk. The road in that area has limited shoulders. In some places, the vegetation comes right up to the edge of the road. And the bridges are narrow. Not far from there, the bridges are one-lane (traffic has to alternate).

Here's an example of a two-lane bridge there:

Street View

That one is a few blocks from the elementary school, although it wouldn't be necessary for students to cross this particular one.

30 posted on 05/30/2014 10:30:18 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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Walking a mile in and of itself no big deal, but I wouldn’t want my kid to walk along most of the highways, no sidewalks, idiot drives and distracted drivers. Just had one girl recently killed by a car along a highway, she was just walking along. Not to mention being picked up etc.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 10:30:50 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’d take that appeal in a heartbeat.


32 posted on 05/30/2014 10:32:30 AM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This joke is on FR from time to time, but it is most apropos here:

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?
A: ‘Your Honor’

This ‘old school’ comment demonstrates she cares little about the Constitution and is about as activist as they come. Impeachment proceedings should start today.

33 posted on 05/30/2014 10:37:33 AM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: gundog

There were days in high school when I had to run the mile. Twice....

I always took the bus to and from high school which was over a mile. About 20 years ago, when I went back for my 20 year reunion I purposely jogged from my house and to the school and back as a personal goal. Very satisfying to basically cover almost the entire town.


34 posted on 05/30/2014 10:37:34 AM PDT by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: GladesGuru

And I thought it was too much spam intake!


35 posted on 05/30/2014 10:39:00 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I missed my bus and had to walk 8 miles home, in Florida summer heat. Taught me a great lesson to get out to the bus on time.


36 posted on 05/30/2014 10:40:04 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Aren’t we getting mixed messages here? Mrs. Obama tells kids they should be active and exercise; but now we hear that walking a whole mile is inhuman punishment?


37 posted on 05/30/2014 10:41:08 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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Did the dad make him battle a grizzly bear with a looseleaf notebook? No? Then quitcha belly aching.


38 posted on 05/30/2014 10:41:40 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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The pussification of America continues apace.


39 posted on 05/30/2014 10:42:35 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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The only reason I can see for the judge’s decision is if the road was dangerous and the child placed at risk for injury or death.


40 posted on 05/30/2014 10:43:37 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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Incredible!, I had to walk more then a mile just to catch the school bus, then walk from the bus stop to home, which was more then a mile. Should I sue somebody?
41 posted on 05/30/2014 10:44:37 AM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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I walked further than this (1.5 mi.)
to school while in first grade
Sun,Rain,Ice,Snow


42 posted on 05/30/2014 10:45:01 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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I walked more than that every day from school AFTER football practice. It wasn’t punishment, it was how I got home.


43 posted on 05/30/2014 10:45:31 AM PDT by wildbill
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It depends on the age of the kid.If he’s 6 then it’s out of line.If he’s 15 it’s perfectly fine.On second though,if it’s unsafe....no sidewalk + busy road for example...that might be out of line too.


44 posted on 05/30/2014 10:47:44 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: lastchance
Kids in the street! Where is the SWAT snipers??

Mortal Danger, Will Robinson!!


45 posted on 05/30/2014 10:48:15 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I used to ride a bus to school, but I walked home every day, I suppose because the kids got out at different times, so taking a bus would be complicated.

I started doing it in First Grade, when I was six. I’d usually walk with a couple of friends who lived along the way. Most of the way was along Central Avenue, which was a four-lane highway with lots of traffic—and no sidewalks.

We knew enough to cross the highway where there was a red light, and to stay out of the way of cars and trucks.

No big deal. We took our time, chatted, occasionally stopped to do a bit of arm wrestling, or whatnot. Good way to pass the time.


46 posted on 05/30/2014 10:49:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Yeah, these are different times...unfortunately.

Sadly, that is right. I walked about a mile to school in first grade thru fourth on many occasions and no one thought anything about it. We never even locked our doors. Today, no way I would let my child walk that same route with the number of creeps out there.

That said, I do not know the area nor the situation involved here, so will not judge the parental decision but will say this seems rather an odd case to make it to court and officially sanction a parent over. But then as your comment says, these are "different times" and we're stuck with em for now.

47 posted on 05/30/2014 10:51:00 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Yo-Yo

You need to pay attention to your father. One mile is really no big deal. We did, indeed, walk to and from school - 2 1/2 miles each way and yes, there were some pretty steep hills going to school.

We never did have 6 feet of snow but often had as much as one to three feet. When that happened we at least had a horse to ride. My daddy would wrap me in a blanket, put me in the saddle, tie me on, whap the horse on the rear and off we would go. Horse spent the day with everyone else’s in the lean to by the school and the teacher would help you get down and unwrapped. Then at the end of the day the process would be repeated.

The worst part of the winter was having to use the outdoor bathroom.

My kids rode their bicycles to grade school but when I was young a bicycle was a true luxury and no one I knew had one.

This kid in Hawaii had it way too easy, regardless of his age, unless he was in pre-K. Judge needs to butt out and father needed to “man up” when he appeared in front of the judge.


48 posted on 05/30/2014 10:53:16 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Uphill? Both ways? In six feet of snow

And I used to carry my little sister on my shoulders also. With no shoes. Kids today are wuss.


49 posted on 05/30/2014 10:54:01 AM PDT by bikerman (Imagination is more important than intelligence)
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I walked over a mile to school every day from the time I started kindergarten until I bought bicycle when I was 8.
50 posted on 05/30/2014 10:54:02 AM PDT by dalereed
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