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Browser Change From Firefox?
USCBass

Posted on 05/30/2014 11:24:40 AM PDT by UScbass

Have been using the Firefox browser since it was introduced; with all the controversies (political), it has been suggested that I change to Chrome (Google), Safari (Apple), or Opera browser. Any suggestions as to whether a change is recommended and, if so, to what?


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KEYWORDS: browser; firefox; palemoon; tor
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1 posted on 05/30/2014 11:24:40 AM PDT by UScbass
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To: UScbass

Netscape...................


2 posted on 05/30/2014 11:25:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: UScbass

I really don’t see the political difference between the liberals at Microsoft, Google and the liberals at Firefox.

Just use the best browser for you and be done with it.


3 posted on 05/30/2014 11:25:50 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: UScbass

I went to Pale Moon. It is just like firefox with out the crap that goes along with it.


4 posted on 05/30/2014 11:26:19 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: UScbass

Pale Moon


5 posted on 05/30/2014 11:26:48 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: UScbass
I ditched Firefox for a few weeks, but went back.

All the major browsers are owned by Lefties anyway.

6 posted on 05/30/2014 11:27:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: UScbass

Mosaic


7 posted on 05/30/2014 11:27:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: UScbass; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

8 posted on 05/30/2014 11:27:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: UScbass

When at home on my (one of many) Apple machines, Safari is fine.

I also ditched Firefox on both my office and all home machines following their recent bending over to accept gay attitudes. (Double entendre most definitely intended.)

I’m just trying out Opera and it also appears to work quite well (for what I use it for). It was easy to download and worked well right out of the box.


9 posted on 05/30/2014 11:27:53 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Red Badger

I like a combination of Lynx and wget.


10 posted on 05/30/2014 11:28:51 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Red Badger

Mosaic


11 posted on 05/30/2014 11:28:52 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: TMSuchman

It is a fork of Firefox, since its open source anyone can take it and change it and offer it up as a new thing. Pale Moon also does not benefit Google.


12 posted on 05/30/2014 11:29:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: UScbass

Opera is good. Downloaded Pale Moon, but have not used it much. Nothing even remotely Google-ish on anything here.

Thought Netscape WAS Firefox, more or less.


13 posted on 05/30/2014 11:30:23 AM PDT by madison10
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To: UScbass

Pale Moon


14 posted on 05/30/2014 11:30:57 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: UScbass

I like chrome for speed and features. I really don’t like google, but imho, they have the best browser.


15 posted on 05/30/2014 11:31:03 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: UScbass

On Chrome it’s advisable to download a few add-ons that clear your cache and history. Chrome will track you. You have to manually clear the cache after a while.


16 posted on 05/30/2014 11:31:58 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: Last Dakotan

Pale Moon is not for Mac’s.


17 posted on 05/30/2014 11:32:00 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: UScbass

Which is the least NSA friendly ?


18 posted on 05/30/2014 11:32:34 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The only way to defeat this country is to turn us against each other.)
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To: oldbrowser

I believe Startpage is the lease NSA friendly of the common browsers.


19 posted on 05/30/2014 11:36:11 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: oldbrowser

Wget. You use it to download web pages so you can view them offline


20 posted on 05/30/2014 11:36:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: UScbass

I tried Opera, but there’s no dropdown menu. So every time you go to a webpage you have to type it in over & over. Yes, you will have to type “www.freerepublic.com” in every time you come here, it won’t save

IE is beyond garbage. Constant crashes and freezes. Constantly pop-ups asking you to manage Add-Ons. Or the dumbest thing ever, which are the pop ups telling you it blocked a pop up.


21 posted on 05/30/2014 11:36:53 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: oldbrowser

Ditched FF weeks ago.

Pale Moon works fine!


22 posted on 05/30/2014 11:37:12 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Nachum

Agree!

I can separate politics from usefulness, as long as a company can in their product(s).

I use FF and am stuck at version 15 because later versions have too many conflicts with other software. But, so does IE and other browsers.

I still use an old IE-based Fast Browser Pro for FR, because it is tabbed and has some editing add-ons that don’t work with IE after ver 9.

I have a couple of other browsers that I use infrequently, but they do come in handy when Flash or some other feature fails to work on IE or FF.

FF does have nice add-ons, so I continue to use it — regardless of the politics.

If we dumped everything that had a liberal leaning, we would have huge vacant spaces in our culture.


23 posted on 05/30/2014 11:37:33 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: UScbass

There isn’t a “conservative” browser. The internet is everything and everybody. Any company will have a mix of people. Any company will try to maximize their profits regardless of morals or what you consider moral. Ying and Yang. The only way to clean the internet is to forbid certain people from getting online. That way is dangerous.


24 posted on 05/30/2014 11:37:59 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: UScbass

Options:

Internet Explorer:
Owned by Microsoft, bloated, DRM friendly. Plays nice with Microsoft technologies, not so well with Java.

Chrome:
Owned by Google, snoopiest.

Opera:
Largely funded by Google. Awful interface.

Firefox:
Largely funded by Google. Ridiculous # of upgrades.

Safari:
Owned by Apple. Windows version abandoned eons ago. Doesn’t play nice with Flash.

Numerous small players created largely by the Linux community (e.g. Konqueror). Flash and other compatibility issues.

Numerous knock-offs of Firefox. I use Waterfox (64 bith version of Firefox).

All of these products have their problems. I would recommend the Firefox derivative of your choice.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 11:39:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: TFMcGuire; oldbrowser

StartPage is a search engine, not a browser.

ToR is probably the least NSA friendly browser.


26 posted on 05/30/2014 11:40:19 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: UScbass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcp/ip

The more you research about the history of the internet the more you’ll come to understand what it’s about.

NWO runs both gov’t and internet.

It’s really an ingeniously clever idea, I have to admit, to get the masses to think that they’re somehow “breaking free” of government and its big business partners when they’re using their network.

Remember, they see all the data that comes from and goes to your computer.

This should be informative:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28anonymity_network%29


27 posted on 05/30/2014 11:41:36 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: UScbass

ToR - https://www.torproject.org/


28 posted on 05/30/2014 11:41:51 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Nachum

“I really don’t see the political difference between the liberals at Microsoft, Google and the liberals at Firefox.

Just use the best browser for you and be done with it.”

100% correct. It’s insane to use inferior FREE technology and deliberately hamper your own life over ridiculous miniscule differences between various bastions of “Progressivism”.

What good does it do yourself to cripple yourself in such a situation? Who exactly do you think you are hurting here besides yourself?

Now if you were choosing with actual dollars from your actual pocketbook and all else was equal, then by all means, support the company you like the best. But even here, it’s foolish to purchase a vastly inferior, overpriced product in lieu of the one that best does the job for you because of politics. You’re really only hurting yourself in such a situation.

Personally, I detest chrome and like firefox the best because of the plethora of available flexibility, productivity, and privacy addons (despite, of course, the many flaws of FF, namely the perpetual memory leaks Mozilla has always refused to fix, causing FF to eventually freeze and/or crash after several days of intensive use.)


29 posted on 05/30/2014 11:43:15 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Nachum

Good advice. Use the browser that works best for you. None is any more secure than another and each has problems that go along with them. If you encounter compatibility problems, learn how to use the compatibility mode settings to set compatibility for a page or pages to an earlier version that was compatible.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 11:43:29 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: UScbass

BFL


31 posted on 05/30/2014 11:43:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: UScbass
Go really old school: Gopher
32 posted on 05/30/2014 11:44:22 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Sopater
ToR is probably the least NSA friendly browser.

<snort> How many exit nodes do you think the NSA is running?

33 posted on 05/30/2014 11:44:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: UScbass

Comodo Icedragon(based on firefox) or Comodo Dragon(based on Chrome) they say they are more secure


34 posted on 05/30/2014 11:45:00 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Dallas59; UScbass

There could be. There is no reason a FReeper couldn’t take something open-source and rebrand it and make it their own. That is what open-source allows.

Firefox could be copied and become the Free Republic Web-browser.


35 posted on 05/30/2014 11:45:18 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: UScbass

“I really don’t see the political difference between the liberals at Microsoft, Google and the liberals at Firefox.
Just use the best browser for you and be done with it.”

100% correct. It’s insane to use inferior FREE technology and deliberately hamper your own life over ridiculous miniscule differences between various bastions of “Progressivism”.

What good does it do yourself to cripple yourself in such a situation? Who exactly do you think you are hurting here besides yourself?

Now if you were choosing with actual dollars from your actual pocketbook and all else was equal, then by all means, support the company you like the best. But even here, it’s foolish to purchase a vastly inferior, overpriced product in lieu of the one that best does the job for you because of politics. You’re really only hurting yourself in such a situation.

Personally, I detest chrome and like firefox the best because of the plethora of available flexibility, productivity, and privacy addons (despite, of course, the many flaws of FF, namely the perpetual memory leaks Mozilla has always refused to fix, causing FF to eventually freeze and/or crash after several days of intensive use.)


36 posted on 05/30/2014 11:45:20 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: UScbass

Mozilla gets its funding from Google which gets its money from advertising on Firefox. If you want to stay with Firefox, at least get rid of the Google et al searches and just use IxQuick or DuckDuckGo. Also install an ad blocker.


37 posted on 05/30/2014 11:46:43 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: UScbass

While I like Chrome with its very fast rendering speed of web pages, it being owned by left-leaning Google and the bad habit of trying to run two different copies of Adobe Flash is a bit of a turnoff (you have to use the http://chrome:plugins settings page to disable all running copies of Flash except one).


38 posted on 05/30/2014 11:46:54 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ShadowAce
How many exit nodes do you think the NSA is running?

Do you have a better suggestion?
39 posted on 05/30/2014 11:47:30 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: UScbass

I changed to Pale Moon ... it’s working beautifully & I’ve deleted Firefox off my laptop. Pale Moon is an independently developed product based on Firefox so it looks pretty much like it, but it does not follow Firefox to the letter. It’s a bit more streamlined as well.

http://www.palemoon.org/


40 posted on 05/30/2014 11:48:35 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: qam1

Hmmm. I use Opera 12.17 with Ghostery to block the Google Analytics and other junk. I don’t have these issues. I have a Bookmarks window to the L of the screen permitting always-on access to bookmarks. The pop-ups and cookie settings are configurable.

I also have the TOR browser.

I’m going to check out the Pale Moon since it’s FR-ecomended.


41 posted on 05/30/2014 11:49:15 AM PDT by Justa
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To: UScbass
Waterfox and Ixquick
42 posted on 05/30/2014 11:49:25 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Red Badger

How is Netscape nowadays? I don’t think I’ve seen that one in nearly a decade.


43 posted on 05/30/2014 11:51:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Of COURSE bacon is good for you!!!)
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To: Sopater
Firefox+AdBlock+NoScript+Ghostery should keep the vast majority of issues at bay.

A good, maintained firewall as well.

VPNs through several proxies using encrypted tunnels.

Random connection points through public hotspots (that would also be encrypted)

All in all, it would probably be more trouble than it's worth for most people.

44 posted on 05/30/2014 11:52:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Sopater; UScbass

LOL..

Tor is a Fedgov product; it’s use is target for US operatives inside repressive countries can use the innernet and get past local country blocking of websites, and also make it difficult for local country state secret police monitors to track down the operatives.

A large number of the Tor relay servers are “suspected” of being hosted by US intel.

Running large number of the relay servers would, of course, enable a person to defeat the system.

Tor is great if you’re not concerned about NSA seeing what you’re doing.


45 posted on 05/30/2014 11:52:23 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: RayChuang88

Zorin 8.1, handcuffed Chrome, Ghostery.

So far, so good.


46 posted on 05/30/2014 11:52:30 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I dunno. There must be a zillion different varieties now since it was open-source....................They can’t hack them all!.................


47 posted on 05/30/2014 11:53:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Go really old school: Gopher”

Gopher and Archie.

When Mosaic finally showed up, it was for wimps.


48 posted on 05/30/2014 11:54:55 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

http://download.cnet.com/Netscape-Navigator/3000-2356_4-10145004.html


49 posted on 05/30/2014 11:59:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: UScbass

http://download.cnet.com/Netscape-Navigator/3000-2356_4-10145004.html


50 posted on 05/30/2014 12:00:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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