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Couple Fined $746 For The Crime Of Feeding Homeless People In Florida Park
Zero Hedge ^ | 05/30/2014 | Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog

Posted on 05/30/2014 12:13:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 05/30/2014 12:25:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

If you think about, the homeless actually serve as the perfect scapegoat for a former American middle class slowly being driven into serfdom. Still completely mesmerized by the religion of consumerism, how is a population losing its freedom and financial well-being supposed to feel better about itself. The easy answer is to look at an even more destitute class and treat them like the “elites” treat everyone else. Like a superfluous and unfortunate outgrowth of humanity.


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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: charity; homeless
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1 posted on 05/30/2014 12:14:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m glad to see the police are on top of this year long string of crimes.


2 posted on 05/30/2014 12:17:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the king will answer them, ‘I tell you the truth, just as you did it for one of the least of these brothers or sisters of mine, you did it for me.’
Matthew 25:40


3 posted on 05/30/2014 12:20:03 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind
"barring individuals from serving food in public"

Well, there goes tailgating at the Daytona 500. Or beach picnics. Or church socials. Or company picnics.

4 posted on 05/30/2014 12:20:09 PM PDT by alancarp
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I’m glad to see the police are on top of this year long string of crimes.

It may well be that attracting hundreds of derelicts to a public park may also attract crime, the way feeding pigeons attracts bird poop.

5 posted on 05/30/2014 12:20:41 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s coming to a point when we do not even know what laws we are violating out there.

Welcome to the land of the free...


6 posted on 05/30/2014 12:21:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: IncPen

Excellent quote. Just what I would have picked, too.

~~~ I think that if we want to see how the state and crony corporate status quo will treat everyone in the future, all you have to do is look at the current “war on the homeless.”~~~

True


7 posted on 05/30/2014 12:22:10 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SeekAndFind

It used to be that in order to be convicted of a crime you had to be in knowledge of the law and willfully violating it. But there are so many laws on the books that anyone at any given time is probably in violation of at least half dozen without even knowing it.


8 posted on 05/30/2014 12:24:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SeekAndFind
... The Crime Of Feeding Homeless People
No, the crime was individuals serving food in a public park - didn't matter if the recipients had a home or not.
If Chico and Debbie Jimenez feel the "calling," I suggest they open a homeless dining room - maybe in their own back yard.
9 posted on 05/30/2014 12:24:37 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind
That'll be $ 1,000.00 for a city food license and monthly inspections.

...yes, even if you're giving free meals to the needy.

10 posted on 05/30/2014 12:25:42 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SeekAndFind

Just like I said, fascism spreads. Despot Mike Bloomberg when he was in office would regularly have food donated to the homeless confiscated, and I said just watch: This is going to spread, and here we are - Now you get fined.


11 posted on 05/30/2014 12:26:41 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How to Feed the Homeless in Dayonta Beach, Florida
12 posted on 05/30/2014 12:27:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yikes! That could have happened to me.

Years ago KFC had a deal that gave a huge bucket family meal for virtually the same price as a smaller meal. Since I just wanted one white meat piece for lunch I’d buy the whole family bucket (with to-go accoutrements). I’d ask them to put my one piece in a separate bag for my lunch. Then I dropped off the rest of it in a park nearby where I worked and were there were a lot of homeless people. I’d place the entire huge bag on a park bench and say Free Chicken! to those standing around.


13 posted on 05/30/2014 12:27:59 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: TexasCajun

There a many places the homeless can go for a meal. Don’t need to attract them to a park.


14 posted on 05/30/2014 12:30:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s like feeding stray cats or wildlife; they’ll come to expect it and bring their pals.


15 posted on 05/30/2014 12:31:53 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: driftdiver
There a many places the homeless can go for a meal. Don’t need to attract them to a park.

Why bother with logic and reason when self-righteous emotional reactions feel so good?

16 posted on 05/30/2014 12:32:55 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

How to Feed the Homeless in Dayonta Beach, Florida

Feed ‘em to the alligators?


17 posted on 05/30/2014 12:33:12 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would not want people feeding homeless people in my neighbor hood. I am if favor of helping the needy, but not this way. In my area we have plenty of non profits that feed the homeless in clean dining rooms. Feeding the homeless in parks is like feeding feral cats and pigeons. It is a mess and unsanitary.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 12:33:16 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: SeekAndFind
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19 posted on 05/30/2014 12:33:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: oh8eleven

Oh they will put a stop to that too.

There have been women stopped from feeding vagrants from their home because their kitchen wasn’t “up to code”.

They would rather people eat out of dumpsters than get a home-cooked meal, because it might have germs!

Sorry, this is all insane.

Soon, they will stop us from ever cooking for ourselves because our kitchens are too dirty and we can’t have any friends over for dinner thanks to that.


20 posted on 05/30/2014 12:36:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s coming to a point when we do not even know what laws we are violating out there.

Really. I mean, how could they have possibly known that serving food to hundreds of people in a public park might be subject to some sort of regulation?

21 posted on 05/30/2014 12:41:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: JimRed

Feed the homeless to the hungry.


22 posted on 05/30/2014 12:42:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

This applies now to any kind of charity.

Go try to donate your furniture to any of the official chain charities. You cannot give them anything cloth.

When my husband and I married we combined households, necessitating chucking some furniture because we were mature and fully furnished in our own homes. Yup, Salvation Army, Goodwill, etc would not take our cloth sofas, chairs etc., nor our church’s local charity. Soft surfaces easily collect germs and cannot be easily cleaned!

We had to sell them or dump it. Thus adding to the landfill problems these same fascists are so worried about.

So again, the all-caring gov would rather poor people sleep on the floor or in the dirt than risk a cold from a mattress.


23 posted on 05/30/2014 12:42:55 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
There have been women stopped from feeding vagrants from their home
Good.
The vast majority of "vagrants" bums, are mentally ill.
They belong in mental wards, soup kitchens or jail.
They do not belong in my next door neighbor's backyard, public parks or school grounds.
24 posted on 05/30/2014 12:43:40 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The only reason a homeless person, or anyone for that matter, eats from a dumpster is because they’ve CHOSEN to eat from the dumpster.

I’m all for Freedom so I say Bon Appetit.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 12:45:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

How dare you stand up to the hordes of bums bringing down property values, attracting crimes, and trespassing? Don’t you know the bums represent hard working Americans?


26 posted on 05/30/2014 12:45:59 PM PDT by sagar
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27 posted on 05/30/2014 12:47:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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28 posted on 05/30/2014 12:50:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But there are so many laws on the books that anyone at any given time is probably in violation of at least half dozen without even knowing it.

Thats also why the majority of obsolete laws are never taken back off the books.

29 posted on 05/30/2014 12:51:04 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
From the article -

The Jimenez's contend that the area's homeless agencies don't want to lose people to outside feedings because that means fewer of them come to the agencies — which means less funding.

Folks, this is the real issue. Government workers are going after the Jimenez's, because these people are a threat of those big time government salaries.

30 posted on 05/30/2014 12:54:50 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
5% Of Free Republics Community Donates. What Is There To Say To Those Who CAN Donate But Won't?

That they freely provide prescient, intelligent, and entertaining content, creating the actual value of the website?

31 posted on 05/30/2014 12:54:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: oh8eleven

I can understand everyone’s concern. However, it should be their freedom to make that choice to serve people on their property. If not, the scenario I mentioned starts: no parties, no friends for dinner.

As for the public thing, I can see more problem there except I think people should be able to randomly offer others stuff. So if one happens by the area and has some leftovers, have at it. My aunt did this. But you could not count on her being in a certain place every day or week to get anything.

Making it truly a regular thing is indeed more problematic.


32 posted on 05/30/2014 12:56:24 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: PanzerKardinal
Folks, this is the real issue. Government workers are going after the Jimenez's, because these people are a threat of those big time government salaries.

You're right, it is. Either that or the Jimenezes are calumniating the wonderful, religiously-motivated volunteers staffing the area's homeless agencies. Could be either one.

33 posted on 05/30/2014 12:58:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

Yes!

That is the irony of the whole thing - there is always someone getting some kind of graft for this, even if it is just to provide food.

Sometimes, that is not even the intention of the regulation, but the big org’s - but even lesser ones - soon realize it!

Same as corporatism. Sometimes the big guys realize they can use this fascism to their advantage!


34 posted on 05/30/2014 12:59:39 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The big guys have been buying regulations to hurt their competitors for a century or more, at least. This even happened a lot in “Atlas Shrugged”


35 posted on 05/30/2014 1:01:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Shrugs?


36 posted on 05/30/2014 1:01:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I’m curious: have you ever worked in a soup kitchen?


37 posted on 05/30/2014 1:01:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Nope.


38 posted on 05/30/2014 1:02:50 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Has anyone here ever worked in a soup kitchen? Does anyone personally know the people who manage them and the organizations that run them?

Anyone besides me, that is.


39 posted on 05/30/2014 1:04:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

There’s no excuse for people who are financially able to donate but won’t. They ride on other peoples dime. And their comments won’t pay to keep FR running, they let others do that.


40 posted on 05/30/2014 1:06:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I work in soup kitchens when the TV cameras are there and I am running for political office or promoting one of my new movies. /s


41 posted on 05/30/2014 1:09:13 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: oh8eleven

Exactly, just as if you throw bread, the square will become quickly inundated with pigeons.


42 posted on 05/30/2014 1:10:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jeff Chandler

I have volunteered for short times in them. Helping people exist on the street is not helping them. They need a hand up not a hand out.


43 posted on 05/30/2014 1:23:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lorianne
what a nice gesture....comes from the heart too which is the most important thing...

overall, these govt officials NEED the homeless, the crooks, the drugged, the drunk, the lazy, etc so they can keep push, push, push for more tax money to "help" the poor....except they want to hire a bunch of worthless liberal arts majors to "manage" the program....

more govt taxes...more govt jobs...what could possibly go wrong...

44 posted on 05/30/2014 1:24:59 PM PDT by cherry
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To: driftdiver
I have volunteered for short times in them.

Then you agree it is wrong to slander them and the people working them as somehow greedy and corrupt—in it for the funding— as the couple in the article have done.

45 posted on 05/30/2014 1:28:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Absolutely, nobody I’ve ever met was in it for the funding. Unless it was funding so they could feed or house more people.

These aren’t Al Sharpton or Jesse JacksUN type people.


46 posted on 05/30/2014 1:30:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to the usa, where no good deed goes unpunished.

The left needs a permanent underclass. It wants millions of people kept down and out. How dare you try to alleviate their misery!


47 posted on 05/30/2014 1:38:19 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: driftdiver

“Unless it was funding so they could feed or house more people.”

But that is what I referred to. It doesn’t matter that the intention is to feed someone and not “profit”, it is still basically mugging someone else for the money.

Yes, many of the people are very nice and caring in intention, but unless they are boning up the $$ themselves, many are still trying to get $$ from the gov (by and large).

So, as a group even in independent kitchens which otherwise look for gov hand-outs, they would rather the vagrants come to them to justify those hand-outs from taxpayers.

Just like SpecEd in school. Get more kids designated “special” so more funds come in. (Yes, it’s true - ask my mom, who loved her job but had no illusions about what public schools were doing.)


48 posted on 05/30/2014 1:49:17 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let me see if I got this straight.

The government is not feeding these people,

and fining anyone who tries to feed them ?

Obviously government is trying to kill these people through mass starvation.

Same ole. Same ole.

49 posted on 05/30/2014 1:49:55 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Many are funded by charity. Some are funded with tax dollars. Largely those are less expensive then the alternative of scraping the dead bodies up, dealing with the crimes, or putting them in jail.


50 posted on 05/30/2014 1:51:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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