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Why Steve Ballmer Overpaid for the L.A. Clippers: It's Not About Money Any more
Motley Fool ^ | 05/31/2014 | Daniel Kline

Posted on 05/31/2014 10:52:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Before former Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT ) CEO's just-announced deal to purchase the Los Angeles Clippers, the previous record high price for an NBA team was the $550 million paid earlier this month for the Milwaukee Bucks.

The amount Ballmer is paying makes it look like former Bucks owner Herb Kohl had his pocket picked by new owners Wesley Edens and Marc Lasry. Yes, Milwaukee is the fifth smallest market in the NBA, but it's hard to imagine that being the second most important team in Los Angeles is actually worth nearly $1.5 billion more.

When the Bucks deal was announced in mid-April many thought Edens and Lasry were over-paying for the team. The annual Forbes list of NBA team values, which came out in January, had the franchise ranked as the least valuable in the league at $405 million. The Clippers ranked 13th on that list with an estimated value of $575 million. So the Bucks sold for a 135% premium while the Clippers commanded 375% of their estimated value.

That's a huge multiple, which could change how sports franchises are valued. Previously it was not uncommon for teams to sell for more than their estimated worth, but the Clippers deal suggests that major sports franchises are the new status symbol for billionaires. Making money off a team or even being able to sell it for more than you bought it is not the point. The Clippers now join a growing list of teams being bought as toys by owners rich enough to pay pretty much any price.

How did the price get this high?

Ballmer, who is worth an estimated $20 billion, certainly can afford to buy any toy he wants. He also has enough money to outbid himself for the team just to make sure Shelley Sterling -- who was negotiating the sale on behalf of her family in a very complicated arrangement that is likely to end up in court -- chose his bid.

Ballmer, who was rebuffed in a bid to buy the Sacramento Kings to relocate them to Seattle despite being the highest bidder, left little to chance this time. The other bidders for the Clippers included Los Angeles-based investors Tony Ressler and Bruce Karsh, and a group that included David Geffen and executives from the Guggenheim Group, the Chicago-based owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Geffen group offered $1.6 billion and the Ressler-Karsh group $1.2 billion.

Ballmer's bid was clearly designed to blow the others out the water. Basketball teams rarely come up for sale and Ballmer likes basketball enough that it was worth not only paying more than three times the estimated value of the team, but bidding $400 million more than his closest competitor.

What should the Clippers sell for?

The Clippers are profitable but only mildly so. According to Forbes, the team has revenue of $128 million and player expenses of $80 million. Add in other operating costs (like coach Doc Rivers' $7 million a year deal) and the team has an operating profit of $15 million. In theory Ballmer -- likely a better executive than previous operating owner Donald Sterling -- can wring out some extra profits.

The opportunities to do that, however, are somewhat limited. The team has a long-term lease with the Staples Center that runs through the 2023-24 season. The biggest chance to increase revenue is likely through negotiating an extension of the team's local television deal. The current deal with Fox's (NASDAQ: FOX) Prime Ticket service pays around $25 million a year. That number could go much higher as the Los Angeles Lakers, which share the Staples Center with the Clippers, have a $3 billion, 20-year deal with Time Warner Cable (NYSE: TWC). That's an average of $150 million per season.

The Lakers, however, are the more established team drawing better television ratings despite being much worse on the court for the past two seasons. Last season, the Lakers averaged a 2.15 household rating, or 122,000 households per game. The Clippers only averaged a 1.25 rating or 71,000 households per game, The Los Angeles Times reported.

Still Ballmer can likely expect a bigger deal. The Times suggested a figure closer to the $65 million a year the Boston Celtics are getting from Comcast (NASDAQ: CMCSA) would be a reasonable guess. At that number the team would add $35 million a year in profit. Let's assume Ballmer's touch can eke out another $5 million and the Clippers would pull in an annual profit of $55 million a year. Under that scenario it will take Ballmer nearly 40 years to see a return on his investment.

It's not about money any more

Most NBA owners have been content to earn a small operating profit, scoring the real windfall when they sell their team. That is certainly the case for Donald Sterling who paid $12.5 million for the team in 1981.

It seems unlikely that Ballmer will see a similar 15,900% return on his investment when he ultimately sells. But it's clear that purchasing the Clippers is not a business decision, it's an emotional one by a man who has professed his love for the sport. Ballmer did not buy the Clippers so he could get even richer. He bought them because owning a basketball team is a more enjoyable way to spend his post-Microsoft days than playing a lot of golf.

This deal will likely set a precedent that makes the value of sports franchises more about how many billionaires want in than any financial metrics.

-- Daniel Kline is long Microsoft. He is a Boston Celtics fan. The Motley Fool owns shares of Microsoft.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: california; clippers; donaldsterling; donsterling; losangeles; losangelesclippers; naacp; nba; rochellesterling; steveballmer; vanessastiviano
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1 posted on 05/31/2014 10:52:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Move it to Seattle?


2 posted on 05/31/2014 10:54:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason of course is that Ballmer is a racist White bastard who would pay any amount to keep the team from falling into Black ownership! Well that’s what I heard from Al and Jesse.


3 posted on 05/31/2014 10:55:48 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SkyDancer

I doubt that he will move the team to Seattle as the opportunity to recover his two billion dollar expenditure would not exist as it might in LA.


4 posted on 05/31/2014 10:58:14 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: SeekAndFind

5 posted on 05/31/2014 10:58:18 AM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: SeekAndFind
But it's clear that purchasing the Clippers is not a business decision, it's an emotional one

We've left free market economics behind. Now it's about power and emotion, just as it was in the age of the Monarchs. Some people don't have to "make money" and they turn their nose up at "profit". They simply "have" money and privilege. They are at the top, and their children will be at the top. It's just the way it's meant to be.

Now, back to the fields you serfs! There is work to be done! Your masters are hungry.

6 posted on 05/31/2014 11:01:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: null and void; dagnabbit
Dagnabbit!


7 posted on 05/31/2014 11:05:19 AM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sterling laughing all the way to the bank. And his opposition to the sale? Just laying groundwork for (a) proving it was a forced sale because of the ginormous tax ramifications (probably about $300 or so million worth) and (b) his lawyers to sue the crud out of everyone.

These idiots have been played by the Sterlings. It’s so obvious - except to agenda driven leftist idiots...


8 posted on 05/31/2014 11:07:46 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He has long wanted a basketball team and this was his chance to get one, pure and simple. So he overpaid, good on him. It’s his hobby and his money and if this was what he wanted, more power to him. Why try to create a conspiracy where there is not one? Think of classic cars, people overpay for them all the time because it’s about the emotion and not the price. M2C.


9 posted on 05/31/2014 11:08:25 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Ballmer, who is worth an estimated $20 billion, certainly can afford to buy any toy he wants.”

Hello liberals! Rich guy playing again, where’s the complaining?


10 posted on 05/31/2014 11:10:49 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: SkyDancer

and put all team employees on minimum wage


11 posted on 05/31/2014 11:19:51 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought the NY Yankees were the most valuable sports franchise in the country at 1.9 billion. Seems like he paid way to much.


12 posted on 05/31/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: SeekAndFind

New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I’ll buy me a basketball team.


13 posted on 05/31/2014 11:22:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ClearCase_guy
It's the Morelocks vs the Eloi. We have to keep reminding ourselves that it didn't end well for the Morelocks.

As far as the price of the Clippers? I stated this on a previous thread: it's not unusual for a guy with a mid-life crisis to spend 10% (or more) of his life savings to get his favorite toy.

And meanwhile, the Sterlings can have some lawsuit fun with the NBA and others involved, if they want. And the owners won't have to worry about the repurcussions of a vote and a fear of someone going after their teams for the crime of being imperfect.

14 posted on 05/31/2014 11:23:11 AM PDT by grania
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To: molson209

Or bring in some H-1B’s.


15 posted on 05/31/2014 11:23:28 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Oliviaforever

He’d better make a real big splash, because even though the Lakers are down, they are still LA’s team.

That’s why I expect Ballmer to go hard after LeBron James in the off season.


16 posted on 05/31/2014 11:24:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
He is a Boston Celtics fan.

I remember when the Celtics went public.

Turned out to be an accounting nightmare as many of the fans that bought shares, especially a single share, framed, rather than cashed, the dividend checks.

Obviously that implies that the same fans took possession of the stock certificates...which were probably also framed.

The whole idea of paying that much is ludicrous. The fans are the ones that are going to suffer from inflated ticket and concession prices.

17 posted on 05/31/2014 11:25:48 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: null and void

18 posted on 05/31/2014 11:27:43 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... you don't want to go there, buddy.)
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To: Oliviaforever

For some reason, Seattle is not a basketball city.


19 posted on 05/31/2014 11:27:51 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: dfwgator

“Yeah!”

“Why does anyone do anything?”

“I don’t know, I was really drunk at the time!”


20 posted on 05/31/2014 11:29:56 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: piytar
"I am Donald J. Stewling, Billionaiwe ... I own a mansion and a yacht!"
21 posted on 05/31/2014 11:33:50 AM PDT by mikrofon (And an NBA Team...)
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To: SeekAndFind
the Clippers deal suggests that major sports franchises are the new status symbol for billionaires.
Making money off a team ... is not the point.
The Clippers now join a growing list of teams being bought as toys by owners rich enough to pay pretty much any price.

This will backfire (hopefully).
I know I'm not the only one thinking that the owners can damn well BUY THEIR OWN sports stadiums. Not one more nickel of public money!

22 posted on 05/31/2014 11:34:34 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: mikrofon

“They say I’m crazy but I have a good time”

.,.,.,..,.,,.

“Life’s been good to me so far”


23 posted on 05/31/2014 11:36:57 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: grania
It's the Morelocks vs the Eloi. We have to keep reminding ourselves that it didn't end well for the Morelocks.

It didn't end well for anyone.

First, Wells impugned the Morlocks, they were the industrious workers who provided the lazy multi-multi-multigenerational Eloi with their every need; food, clothing and shelter.

Wells glorified the Eloi who wouldn't lift a finger to save one of their own from drowning, had absolutely no curiosity about anything, not even where their food came from (someone's stash maybe?) but happened to be pretty by his standards.

Then Wells had the Time Traveler break the Eloi's rice bowl!

The Morlocks were burned in their underground factories. The Eloi lost their only means of sustenance, and I'm pretty sure the Time Traveler got lynched for starving them out of house and home while trying to get across the concept of working to survive!

24 posted on 05/31/2014 11:39:30 AM PDT by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: All

he just wants to own slaves..


25 posted on 05/31/2014 11:41:57 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Free market economics say that people are free to spend a lot on rare commodities that the covet.

Nothing wrong with that.


26 posted on 05/31/2014 11:48:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Calvin Locke

Having a rich owner is good for the fans, because the owner is willing to pay for a winning team.


27 posted on 05/31/2014 11:49:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Having a rich owner is good for the fans, because the owner is willing to pay for a winning team.

Sometimes they're willing and sometimes they're not. Often times a losing team is more profitable. Joe Robbie built one of the best football teams ever, but he was relatively poor. You are right that it takes a commitment from the owner to having a winning team.

28 posted on 05/31/2014 12:00:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

At his level of wealth that is like you taking your wife out for a feast at the “Outback” including the ‘Bloomin’ Onion”.


29 posted on 05/31/2014 12:11:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Taking the argument a tad too far, I think.

This is just like a billionaire buying a giant yacht. There’s no way it will produce an ROI. The purchase is for enjoyment and status.

“Owner of a major league team” provides a lot more status than “retired rich guy.”

Status and “stuff” actually operate on separate, though often parallel tracks. That in our society wealth is the primary way of acquiring status misleads many into the vulgar Marxist notion that nobody ever does anything at all except for base monetary reasons.

In actual fact, status is the main driver. This can be seen from those willing to invest tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of their own money to gain political office. And from the longstanding ambition of rich guys to be appointed to federal office or ambassadorships.

Such office is not going to provide a financial ROI. Most could clearly make more money in private fields. But being addressed as “Mr. Ambassador” for the rest of your life is a nice perk. All of this equates, to some extent and informally, to the British honors system of knighthoods and titles.


30 posted on 05/31/2014 12:16:45 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ZOOKER

It’s the rage in European soccer, rich Arab businessmen and Russian oligarchs are buying teams right and left.


31 posted on 05/31/2014 12:21:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 9YearLurker

The problem is when you have only four or five teams with rich owners, and it squeezes out the smaller teams. A Luxury Tax is nothing to a guy like Ballmer.


32 posted on 05/31/2014 12:23:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OwenKellogg

OK, now that is outrageously-funny.


33 posted on 05/31/2014 12:25:17 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Moonman62

But as this article points out, this new breed of rich owner can’t be in it for the operating profit—it’s a vanity/fun purchase and they’re in it to try to win.


34 posted on 05/31/2014 12:30:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dfwgator

That’s always going to be an issue.


35 posted on 05/31/2014 12:30:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

Expect your cable bills to go way up.


36 posted on 05/31/2014 12:31:13 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: F15Eagle

I thought so too, so I stole it.


37 posted on 05/31/2014 12:31:23 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... you don't want to go there, buddy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hereafter, any team owner contemplating selling will be sure to make some comments that can be perceived as racist/xenophobic/sexist. Then watch the fuss, and rake in the $$$$. Brilliant!


38 posted on 05/31/2014 12:34:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: SeekAndFind

Microsoft investors—and executives—are happy that Ballmer is wasting his own money, and not the company’s. Ballmer was a terrible choice for CEO, and Microsoft paid the price. Now, he’s paid almost four times what the Clippers are actually worth, and inherits a bad lease deal and local TV contract to boot.

But, he gets to hang out with his fellow libs courtside. Ooops...all of them go to the Lakers games. The only celeb who’s been a long-time season ticket holder for the Clippers is Billy Crystal.


39 posted on 05/31/2014 12:42:23 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: null and void
I always took it that the Eloi would do just fine. The Morelock were treating them as farm animals, enabling an idyllic existance that exterminated thought, ambition and self sufficiency. With the Morelocks gone, the Eloi would start afresh, survive, then thrive.

I look at the Morelocks as a kind of gated community that gets so dependent on literally feeding off the masses, that they've deteriorated into monsters who no longer have contact with the real world. HG Wells in THE TIME MACHINE predicted the world of a global elite that amassed great fortune and power, at the expense of their humanity and souls. The Eloi, representing the rest of us, will be far better off when that world collapses.

<^..^>

40 posted on 05/31/2014 12:50:01 PM PDT by grania
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To: OwenKellogg

LOL!

The infamous XP “BSOD”...and so many freepers still love XP!


41 posted on 05/31/2014 1:03:48 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: SkyDancer

Cheer up kid, the SuperSonics are returning soon enough.

42 posted on 05/31/2014 1:10:09 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Prob’ly call them the “Sub-Sonics” .....


43 posted on 05/31/2014 1:18:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: SeekAndFind

I assume it is because, unlike Bill Gates, Ballmer didn’t really have to work that hard for his billions, so he has no real appreciation for it.


44 posted on 05/31/2014 2:14:33 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: grania

I wonder if Ballmer is getting bailed out in part by others to avoid the major lawsuits that would come if Magic Johnson, the guy who first showed up with an offer for the team and was in the pictures with the mistress that she tweeted and provoked Sugar Daddy Sterling with, wouldn’t get the team.


45 posted on 05/31/2014 2:16:59 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

$2billion.

Sterling aint so crazy after all...


46 posted on 05/31/2014 2:17:07 PM PDT by CharleysPride (aut numquid tute es legere me translate)
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To: CharleysPride

Looks like Sterling got thrown into the briar patch.


47 posted on 05/31/2014 2:19:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: piytar

If Sterling is being punished, I wish someone would punish me twice as hard.


48 posted on 05/31/2014 3:13:29 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Sherman Logan

The idea and practice of carrying over so called royal titles after service doesn’t increase my feelings or opinions of such individuals. Gives me the impression the person is/was good and worthy for all times. Certainly not true for so many who have done poorly and even evil while holding such title. For me once out of title/office no more public honor puffing.


49 posted on 05/31/2014 3:46:50 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: SkyDancer

Noooooooo ... and he said he wouldn’t take them away from us.

Just popped in to say the Lakers were recently assessed at around $1.3 million. So, yes, it is not about money. Given what the team will bring in revenue, even in 20 years, the team will look high at $2mil.


50 posted on 05/31/2014 3:51:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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