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Does Hagel and Obama (WH) believe that the Taliban aren't terrorists?
6/1/2014 | Laissez-faire Capitalist

Posted on 06/01/2014 1:14:03 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

1.) If they believe that the Taliban aren't terrorists, then is this behind their reasoning that no negotiations took place with terrorists in the release of Bowe Bergdahl for 5 GITMO detainees?

2.) If they state that there was a third party involved (Qatar) and thus neither side (the WH or the Taliban) spoke directly with each other, then does that constitute their position that no negotiations took place with terrorists?

The problem with #1 is that when the WH slammed Karzai over some of his statements concerning joining the Taliban, what could/can the WH say to Karzai now?

Breitbart.com has a Nov 27, 2013 article entitled "Karzai: Obama administration said Taliban 'Not Our Enemies'

The problem with #2 is that this cannot be done with Al Qaeda without breaking the law. Period.

3.) So is the WH saying explicitly that the Taliban A.) aren't terrorists, or that they aren't terrorists B.) if and when it suits the WH (Obama)?

A & B, logically, are the only avenues left for the WH. B would be a hypocritical position to take, but nonetheless a position that could be taken.

Nonetheless, the WH must state which of the two (A or B) they officially stand behind.


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1 posted on 06/01/2014 1:14:03 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What say you?


2 posted on 06/01/2014 1:14:18 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think they want to make a deal with the Taliban to spare the Poppy fields.

That’s why we’re still in Afghanistan.

No blood for opium.


3 posted on 06/01/2014 1:16:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

To the mentioned, Christians, White males, legitimate gun owners, returning Service Men and women are the terrorists.


4 posted on 06/01/2014 1:17:21 PM PDT by sport
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To: dfwgator
Forget the MSM even considering investigating this.

Now, if someone were to say something about a conservative, then the MSM would say “The seriousness of the allegations requires further investigations.”

If one were to remind the MSM of this, concerning what you posted, they would probably say that they have changed (albeit temporarily --- just for now --- because it might make zero look bad) their position on this.

5 posted on 06/01/2014 1:22:23 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
On top of that, the Taliban never actually had Bergdahl:

...Contrary to press reports, the Afghan Taliban – aka the Quetta Shura - never had their hands on Sgt. Bergdahl. He was always under the control of the Haqqani network......."

FULL ARTICLE
....................................

And even that article doesn't tell the whole story.

I also have it on high authority that 0bama himself called off the search and rescue mission very early.

Even Richard Condon who wrote "The Manchurian Candidate" would have had to stretch his imagination a lot further to write this story. .............

As to the original question, of course they don't think the Taliban is terrorist. Both are Muslim Sympathists at the very best. I personally believe that 0bama is a Muslim Brotherhood 'brother' and Hagel is a Dhimmi at least, if not an actual convert.
(And CIA chief Brennan IS a convert)

6 posted on 06/01/2014 1:22:37 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
MSM plays truth or dare: Freed US soldier celebrated Xmas, played badminton with captors
7 posted on 06/01/2014 1:23:04 PM PDT by wtd
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To: sport

Surely not! /s

They would have to then say that the Taliban are terrorists, because the Taliban own guns!

Oh, forgot, you said legitimate gun owners...


8 posted on 06/01/2014 1:23:39 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Does Hagel and Obama (WH) believe that the Taliban aren't terrorists?

Does they believe it?
I don't know that they does.
They may had be believe that. But who have know what they believe.

9 posted on 06/01/2014 1:25:17 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama is a fan of the Taliban..he supports what they do, always has


10 posted on 06/01/2014 1:28:23 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“Does Hagel and Obama (WH) believe that the Taliban aren’t terrorists?”

I can haz water-boarding?

Rhetorical questions. What does constitute a terrorist these days, and when does/do the definition(s) of such change? Are military personnel who engaged and killed members of the Taliban in combat now murderers?

Something is wrong here. Is this just another distraction from the laundry list of mounting scandals we have with this administration?


11 posted on 06/01/2014 1:28:28 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Doesn’t matter. They are. It’s obvious Obama and his group are terrorists to the US.


12 posted on 06/01/2014 1:28:28 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: LegendHasIt

@RichardGrenell: 7 platoon members of Bowe say he walked away from them. he sought out Taliban. how is media not reporting this?


13 posted on 06/01/2014 1:29:17 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think they believe the Taliban serves a purpose in their plan for deconstructing the U.S. which is why they won’t move against them.


14 posted on 06/01/2014 1:29:46 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

he sought out Taliban. how is media not reporting this?

Because telling the truth about a deserter does not fit the narritive


15 posted on 06/01/2014 1:41:15 PM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
...he sought out Taliban. how is media not reporting this?

Because it doesn't help their Lord and Master, Barack Hussein 0bama.

.........................

This whole story will never be fully told. The Brad Thor article at the Blaze tells an important part of it, but even he gets a couple of things wrong, and leaves out some important stuff.

Even Faux will never come close to telling the whole story. Gonna have to read a lot of the 'tin hat' websites, then blend them together, and throw out the chaff to get anything like a clear picture.

16 posted on 06/01/2014 1:42:53 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Who would call their allies terrorists?


17 posted on 06/01/2014 1:44:36 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It is obvious that our enemies have Hillary and Obama by the short hairs and are pulling. Hillary and Obama were up to no good IN THE INITIAL DESTRUCTION OF THE LIBYAN GOVERNMENT. They knew they could bamboozle and pay off the American press, but they didn’t figure in Al Qaeda and Putin. Al Qaeda and Putin smacked Hillary and Obama in the chops at Benghazi. Now, they control Hillary and Obama. Those two corrupt jackasses are in trouble up to their eyeballs.

Notice how the Benghazi committee is getting started and five enemy bigwigs get released from our custody. Al Qaeda realizes that they are about to lose their hold over Hillary and Obama. They have to get everything they can out of them before the committee finds out how much aid and comfort these Democrats have been providing our enemy and shuts Hillary and Obama down.


18 posted on 06/01/2014 1:44:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Breto

And the media will protect Obama, they will never report on the REAL story..what Obama confirmed for me yesterday was my theory all along that Benghazi was a Blind Sheikh for Stevens swap that went wrong..Ive always believed that is what happened and the fact that Obama had NO problem giving back Five Taliban terrorists to get back one supposed deserter makes my theory even more logical..this story never smelled right, right from the start because Obama never does anything to benefit the country, only to benefit HIMSELF


19 posted on 06/01/2014 2:02:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: LegendHasIt

http://twitchy.com/2014/06/01/odd-bob-bergdahl-hailey-idaho-is-so-much-like-afghanistan/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

WOW so Idaho is a lot like Afghanistan according to the whacko daddy..guess I won’t be visiting Idaho anytime soon


20 posted on 06/01/2014 2:16:59 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We need a War on jihad.


21 posted on 06/01/2014 2:20:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes, Obama’s officially says Taliban is NOT our enemy. It has been such since day one. Woodward’s book ‘Obama’s Wars’, Gen McCrystal, etc. All the way. It is just that no one listens to the wind bag. As Rush says, he tells you what he is going to do, like Vince Lombardi. Problem is no one tries to stop him.


22 posted on 06/01/2014 2:22:06 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

They are both Muslims, so of course they are not going to say anything about terrorists or radical Islamists. Drag em out of office. Time for REAL hope and change!


23 posted on 06/01/2014 2:23:29 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: sassy steel magnolia

Easiest way to find out is pose that as the first question to the new paid government liar.

Let him answer it.


24 posted on 06/01/2014 2:25:54 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Does Freepers know grammar? This is a test.


25 posted on 06/01/2014 2:30:13 PM PDT by Misterioso (Every major horror of history was committed in the name of an altruistic motive. - Ayn Rand)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m being serious when I say I wonder what else they are doing while this smoke bomb is obscuring our view.


26 posted on 06/01/2014 2:33:47 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

When you yourself are a terrorist, there are only rebels, freedom fighters and governments. Terrorist do not see each other as terrorists. Pretty simple.


27 posted on 06/01/2014 5:01:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
To continue with bad grammar:

They does believe Taliban aren't terrorists.

28 posted on 06/01/2014 9:24:28 PM PDT by Rudder
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@dumbblegunner Real knee slapper coming from you. Anyhoo... I was working on adapting and altering this, and did not change it from Does to do when I added “and Obama (WH)” But you know this already, despite your never-ending sarcasm on the boards, while you continue to add nothing to the threads. Again, a deflection from you away from your buddy Obama.


29 posted on 06/02/2014 6:40:28 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
So..you wrote a screwed up title and that makes Obama my buddy?

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

If you wrote a good title, who's buddy would I be then?

30 posted on 06/02/2014 6:43:01 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Your comments to the thread were unwarranted. No one wants your sarcasm. It was from you for the purpose of being a jerk, or deflecting for Obama. I thought that I might give you the benefit of the doubt on the being a jerk part.

No one called you to be a part of the title police, and we already have the spelling police here at FR.

I make it a habit of not doing what you did, as do many others here. It is called being considerate and being merciful, some things that you might wish to educate yourself on...

And it was a good title, as it asked a good question, just that it was messed up a tad, which you pointed out, to the exclusion of actually contributing to the thread. Your diversion then was noted, and the only reason that I could surmise is that you were using a diversion.

BTW, surely you wouldn't be one of those (and I have seen them here at FR) who would say that a thread wasn't worth posting on, and then right after that post on that very same thread?

31 posted on 06/02/2014 7:06:45 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Your comments to the thread were unwarranted.

No one called you to be a part of the "warranted" police.

No one wants your sarcasm.

I like it, it makes me happy.

It was from you for the purpose of being a jerk, or deflecting for Obama.

I am rather a jerk, but I can't see how pointing out your error does anything for or against Obama.

I make it a habit of not doing what you did, as do many others here.

That's good, you should leave such things to those who know how.

Your diversion then was noted, and the only reason that I could surmise is that you were using a diversion.

Keep on surmisin', clearly you need the practice.

32 posted on 06/02/2014 7:17:11 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Most amusing.

The whining of the bloggers never stops, does it.


33 posted on 06/02/2014 7:56:28 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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