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16 Percent of U.S. Teachers are Chronically Absent: Study
NBC Bay Area ^

Posted on 06/03/2014 1:32:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Sixteen percent of all teachers are considered chronically absent, missing 18 days or more per year, a new study said.

A Think Tank in Washington, D.C. looked at 234,000 teachers in 40 of the country's largest school districts. It found teachers miss an average of 11 days.

In Sacramento, more than 51 percent of teachers are chronically absent. In San Francisco, the number is more than 41 percent.

And in San Jose, it is about 45 percent.

Uber, Lyft and Sidecar Operate at SFO Illegally The study looked at short-term absences and did not count absences for serious illness, or maternity and paternity leave.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; education; naughtyteacherslist; nea; teachers; teachersunion

1 posted on 06/03/2014 1:32:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

100% of students learn more 16% of the time.


2 posted on 06/03/2014 1:33:04 PM PDT by maddog55 (I'd be Pro-Choice if we could abort liberals.)
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To: nickcarraway

my nephew didn’t miss a day of school, so what is their excuse?


3 posted on 06/03/2014 1:33:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nickcarraway

Can you blame them?

:-)


4 posted on 06/03/2014 1:33:21 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: nickcarraway

To be fair, they work very late hours and get almost no vacation time.


5 posted on 06/03/2014 1:33:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
To be fair, they work very late hours and get almost no vacation time.

Did you forget the "sarcasm tag"? lol

6 posted on 06/03/2014 1:34:49 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: nickcarraway

I would imagine that pregnancies would skew the numbers up up up. keep in mind, teachers begin pretty young and have an average of two children each. That gets you 40 days right there. I would not read too much into this study.


7 posted on 06/03/2014 1:35:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: wideawake

It’s for the children, ya’ know? s/ super tag


8 posted on 06/03/2014 1:40:17 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: nickcarraway

Geez. Teachers get a lot of built in time off. They get time off for Christmas vacation, Easter vacation, all the federal holidays. Some do work year round, if they are involved with summer school. But, add it all up, and they work many weeks per year less than full time employees in other lines of work.

On top of getting lots of built in time off, it’s stunning to think that they are taking sick days when they aren’t really sick.


9 posted on 06/03/2014 1:44:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: nickcarraway
I retire this year after 32 years of teaching.

I have accumulated 217 sick days. If would have been quite a bit more but in those years I had to have back surgery and get my gall bladder taken out during emergency surgery.That's well over $85,000, in payroll.

10 posted on 06/03/2014 1:56:37 PM PDT by mware
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To: nickcarraway

And that is in addition to summer breaks.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 1:56:44 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: wideawake

To be even “fairer”, they “work” about 8 1/2-9 months per year, have tremendous benefits, get “tenure”, have tremendous retirement.


12 posted on 06/03/2014 2:07:04 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: mware

Can you cash it out?


13 posted on 06/03/2014 2:09:16 PM PDT by Benito Cereno
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To: nickcarraway

A Union’s Forever, Fight For Your Rights!


14 posted on 06/03/2014 2:10:29 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: wideawake
To be fair, they work very late hours and get almost no vacation time.

They also can't get fired, get regular pay increases (even if their performance sucks) and can hold a captive audience to brainwash with their dogma.

I don't begrudge the good teachers out there, that work hard, stay politically unbiased and seek to be decent role models to youth, but I have a problem with teachers who are the exact opposite of what I just described.

15 posted on 06/03/2014 2:10:33 PM PDT by erod
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To: nickcarraway

Its another reason why education must be organized and funded at the most local level possible.


16 posted on 06/03/2014 2:11:11 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: mware

Thank you for being a good teacher :)


17 posted on 06/03/2014 2:11:14 PM PDT by erod
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To: nickcarraway

Even the average of 11 seems like a high degree of absenteeism


18 posted on 06/03/2014 2:11:51 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: nickcarraway
16 Percent of U.S. Teachers Teachers Union Members are Chronically Absent: Study

Fixed it.

19 posted on 06/03/2014 2:18:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: mware

Don’t feel bad, I retired at 45 with 2200 sick hours. Had I worked til 60 I’d have had over 4500 hrs easily. 2 years pay. We got an unbelievable 21 sick days a year. 4 weeks vacation. 1 week administration leave. 3 days funeral leave each occurrence, thankfully no one in my immediate or distant family died in all that time. PLUS we worked 4 half days then got 4 straight days off. When I first got the job, I couldn’t understand why anyone would need vacation time. I could easily switch my 4 half days on with the fellas and get 12 days in a row off. Now why did I need vacation time? It was so easy to carry all your vacation time too.
But, trust me I live in Texas now and life is fabulous living with like minded individuals as myself. Before moving here I had to register as a Democrat because 1/2 the time the Republican party was about 15% the populous and didn’t even run a candidate. Kind of the opposite here in Texas. Long live the Tea Party. Hopefully my city will survive enough that I don’t lose my pension.


20 posted on 06/03/2014 2:24:27 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: nickcarraway

I remember back in the ‘50s in the 5th grade we got a young (22 or 23 year old teacher). She was a looker and all of us male adolescents had a crush. She was so much different in looks and attitude to the previous battleaxes we had that we probably pushed her too far. One day she just had a nervous breakdown and started crying. The principal was called and they took her away. A couple of weeks later she was back but it had scared us so bad we were on extra good behavior for the rest of the year. She was the only teacher I remember missing time and I still wish it was one of the battleaxes.


21 posted on 06/03/2014 2:26:04 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Night Hides Not

That doesn’t require a sarcasm tag it’s so obvious lol.


22 posted on 06/03/2014 2:36:21 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: nickcarraway

I believe it. There is no telling how many substitute teachers are employed by the district DH has been working for, but when they said they would have work for everyone, every day, they weren’t kidding. He has worked multiple times for several teachers in all this.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 2:39:17 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: nickcarraway

They seem to have also taken over from the old Catholic church regarding sex with children.


24 posted on 06/03/2014 2:42:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Starstruck

3rd grade, I broke my right wrist playing baseball against the front steps and tripped over a drain vent while fielding a grounder. My mom took me up to school and showed them my cast. It was early June with exams next week. Sister James Miriam said “He will take his exams with his left hand. The problem was I wrote with my right hand. When I was young nuns were tough, I got the metal ruler back hand and learned real real fast.


25 posted on 06/03/2014 2:44:17 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Benito Cereno
I will be able to cash out, up to $9,000.

Actually I always considered all those sick days as a type of insurance policy. and damn glad I didn't have to use more than I did.

26 posted on 06/03/2014 2:47:58 PM PDT by mware
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To: Starstruck

I guess you proved why the, “battleaxes,” as you called them were necessary.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 2:48:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: GeronL

>> so what is their excuse?

They’re entitled ...


28 posted on 06/03/2014 2:51:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good fix.

Best thing that could happen to this Country is the eradication of tenure, pensions, govt unions, and special immunity; otherwise, we’re stuck with an inefficient, expensive, rigid structure incapable of adapting to economic changes.


29 posted on 06/03/2014 2:56:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Undecided 2012
I was left handed. My first grade teacher did not like left handers. I was hit with the ruler constantly. Finally I got to the second grade and lo and behold Mrs. Shover was my teacher again. I write, bat and eat right handed to this day but I throw, shoot and bowl left handed.

I did well at a career of Engineering Technician, which started off with me doing a lot of hand lettering. Maybe she directed me down the right path. Also being a right winger is not a bad place to be.

30 posted on 06/03/2014 3:02:42 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: nickcarraway
I guess you proved why the, “battleaxes,” as you called them were necessary.

I have some of the Yearbooks. "Battleaxes" is not a term I throw around lightly. Have you ever been taken into the cloakroom, stripped and beaten with a ruler? I have.

31 posted on 06/03/2014 3:12:53 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: nickcarraway

Here in Maryland state law mandates 180 school days. This became an issue because of the days lost to excessive snow days. Because it’s Maryland I’m assuming that the 180 days relates to Federal standards.

So these folk are absent 10% or more of their contract hours. Well, ain’t that special.


32 posted on 06/03/2014 3:13:46 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve taught for 9 years now. I have taken exactly 5 days off during that time for my personal illnesses. Any other time that I have taken off was due to taking care of my wife and the kiddos. She doesn’t get sick days at her job, just paid time off (PTO). We prefer to use her PTO for vacation days instead of having her sit at home with sick children.


33 posted on 06/03/2014 3:45:23 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: napscoordinator

The study has excluded maternity leave.


34 posted on 06/03/2014 3:59:06 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

The study has excluded maternity leave.

Either way, I know it was a Dem law, I like at the least giving a woman enough time with her child. Even if it is unpaid I’m cool with that. At the very least hopefully it keeps some women to keep their child. I wish.


35 posted on 06/03/2014 4:04:54 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: nickcarraway

I remember in High School I had a science/marine biology teacher who would skip our morning class fairly often and wasn’t shy about putting a gone surfin have fun sign on the classroom door and that was decades ago.


36 posted on 06/03/2014 4:43:43 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: nickcarraway

Older teachers that have stayed relatively healthy over the years build up so much sick leave and vacation that they take a lot of time off in their later years. Can’t much blame them.


37 posted on 06/03/2014 6:22:46 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: napscoordinator

Lately I’m skeptical about anything that is coming out from any news source, ever. I’ve seen a LOT of bad teachers and I’m homeschooling because I’m so fed up with public school, but I have to say that I’m not reading too much into this either.

Just to look at this further...

Teachers are mostly women, and women are the ones who take time off work when their kids are sick. Teachers can’t exactly use a vacation day to watch the sick kid, either, like in a non-teaching job.

Also, with pregnancies, you have to visit the OB/GYN once a month, then multiple times during the last month or two, even if there are no complications in the pregnancy. Right there, that’s a lot of absences, since in most schools I think you have to take a full day off if you are going to miss any time. So yeah, they weren’t counting maternity leave, but they DID count the days taken off before maternity leave started, right?

I’ve known several teachers who took many months off due to mental issues. They were really not good teachers, either. That would skew the average higher. It’s pretty hard to fire those lemons.

I’d also bet that with this economy more and more teachers are delaying retirement, which means older teachers, which means generally worse health, which means more absences.

I wonder what the average absences are for all workers? I seem to remember reading somewhere that it has been between 5-7, but I can’t remember where I read that. 11 is only four more than 7, and four more when you think about the inflexibility of the working schedule compared to an office job doesn’t seem as bad as it sounds at first glance.

Everything that comes out now I am asking myself...”What is the objective here? How is this headline or article trying to influence me? What is the truth behind this?”


38 posted on 06/04/2014 7:07:41 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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