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Agitated Customer Leaves Note Expressing Feelings Against Tipping Servers
Opposing Views ^ | 06/04/2014 | By Dominic Kelly

Posted on 06/05/2014 9:39:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

A picture circulating online shows what appears to be a note left for a server at a restaurant in which the customer rants about why they decided not to leave a tip.

Although the source of the letter has not been confirmed or reported, the picture has angered people all over, with many saying that a liberal-minded person had to be responsible for writing it.

“I do not tip anywhere because the law governing tipping causes pay inequality between servers and kitchen staff,” wrote the anonymous tipper. “My meal was made possible by an entire team of kitchen staff, servers, managers, and the establishment itself. Therefore, everyone involved should be paid appropriately out of the cost of the product I purchase. I find it unreasonable that only servers have legal rights to earn tips. Therefore, I do not tip and ask that the establishment raises the cost of food and drinks to pay everyone appropriately for their work. Tipping also encourages both customers and servers to stereotype and discriminate. Appropriate salary for servers should be the responsibility of the establishment and not the mood, or habit, or any random decisions of the customers.”

Sites like Tell Me Now have started to speculate who the letter could be from, and, according to them, it has to have been written by a liberal.

“It’s one thing to have certain beliefs when it comes to equality and what not, but to punish someone who did a good job for you because you think someone else is getting screwed is ridiculous,” writes the website. “However it falls right in line with the liberal/progressive mentality, which is bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator so that nobody feels like they’ve been treated unfairly. These people are going to be the death of this nation.”

The picture has now gone viral, and even though nobody seems to know for sure if it’s even real, it has undeniably sparked a heated debate on income inequality and wages in America.

 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Food; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: restaurants; tipping
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How long has it been since we had a good thread on tipping?

Well, that too long.

1 posted on 06/05/2014 9:39:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

maybe weeks

I oppose tipping.


2 posted on 06/05/2014 9:40:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Responsibility2nd
So. Did a "liberal-minded person" write this?

Or a conservative with a sarcastic sense of humor?

“I do not tip anywhere because the law governing tipping causes pay inequality..."

3 posted on 06/05/2014 9:40:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Um, I think the note writer is an ignorant idiot. I don’t know of any place that does not pool tips in some fashion with the kitchen staff, who also do not earn less than minimum wage as do servers.


4 posted on 06/05/2014 9:41:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m pretty sure that the waiters already share their tips with all involved. At least they used to.


5 posted on 06/05/2014 9:41:52 AM PDT by liege (America 180)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I am a good tipper even though I agree with most of what the writer says. Why should the cook who prepares the food earn less than the person who takes the food to the table?


6 posted on 06/05/2014 9:44:12 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Responsibility2nd
I've worked in kitchens and waited / bartended.

Trust me! The waiter or waitress makes or breaks your meal. Think of the server as your advocate, attorney, food inspector, and customer service representative. I've seen many a meal the waiter or waitress threw right back at the kitchen staff, refusing to leave the kitchen to take it to the table. A good server will also tell you what not to order if you know how to ask the questions.

7 posted on 06/05/2014 9:44:19 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: CodeToad
"I don’t know of any place that does not pool tips in some fashion with the kitchen staff"

I don't know of any place that DOES pool the tips.
8 posted on 06/05/2014 9:45:39 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Responsibility2nd

Could easily have been a European transplant . . . in many European countries tipping is not a big thing.


9 posted on 06/05/2014 9:45:51 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“I find it unreasonable that only servers have legal rights to earn tips...”

What BS. There is no law that says you cannot tip the kitchen staff if you so choose. Just a cheap liberal moron looking to justify his cheapness.


10 posted on 06/05/2014 9:45:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hmmm. Is this letter part of an organized plan to push for raising the minimum wage?


11 posted on 06/05/2014 9:46:11 AM PDT by miele man
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To: Responsibility2nd

“which the customer rants about why they decided not to leave a tip.”

Because the customer was a cheapskate liberal.


12 posted on 06/05/2014 9:46:54 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was unaware that “only the server has the legal right to earn tips”, and I highly doubt that this is true. What law is there that prevents me from giving my own money to anyone that I darn well please. If this letter writer really felt that strongly about this issue, why the heck didn’t he ask to see the cook, dish washer, busboy, etc. and give each of them a tip?


13 posted on 06/05/2014 9:47:04 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Responsibility2nd

Anyone who declares they “never tip” is a lowdown cheapskate ahole. If the service and food are good, I tip 20 percent of the check.


14 posted on 06/05/2014 9:47:47 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: lowbridge

‘zackly.
Cheap.


15 posted on 06/05/2014 9:47:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This was left by a very unhappy person who sees problems everywhere. Mind you r own business. How and how much the restaurant workers are paid is none of your business. Judge not. Who are you to judge these matters.
Tipping is a brilliant system. To Insure Proper Service. Virtually all the servers I have ever encountered have done a good job. Efficient, personable and professional. Would they all have done such a good job if a tip were not on the line? Not likely. More likely they would be like most other workers (especially younger) with a sense of entitlement.


16 posted on 06/05/2014 9:48:37 AM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was going to post a link to youtube Reservoir Dogs - Tipping Scene but the language is inappropriate.

Anyway, the writer of the note is a moron.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 9:49:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Steve_Seattle

That’s what I thought. But see post 4 and 5.

Evidently some places do share tips. But how is that fair to the servers who do not even earn minimum wage?


18 posted on 06/05/2014 9:49:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: liege

As I understand it, in some places the waiters/waitresses share a certain percentage of their tips with the busboys (the employee whose job it is to clear your table of all the dirty dishes, glasses, and silverware, and prepare the table for the next customer)


19 posted on 06/05/2014 9:49:54 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Responsibility2nd

Mr. Pink agrees.

20 posted on 06/05/2014 9:50:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Steve_Seattle
Why should the cook who prepares the food earn less than the person who takes the food to the table?

They don't. Cooks are paid more.

21 posted on 06/05/2014 9:51:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Am I the only one who thinks “tipping” is out of control?? Taxi drivers, waiters, bartenders, hair stylists, hotel staff, baristas,....
I guess it wasn’t so bad when 10% was the norm, but now 15-20% seems to be the expected range. I understand it gives workers extra incentive to provide good service, but they’re already expected to provide good service as a condition of employment, aren’t they?


22 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:40 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: Responsibility2nd
The obligatory Mr. Pink



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23 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:42 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: CodeToad

I used to work in a restaurant that did not pool tips, but I never minded. I made more money hourly as a cook than the waitresses and I did not have to personally deal with all the A-holes sitting at the tables.


24 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:51 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: dfwgator
Beat me to that one, lol
25 posted on 06/05/2014 9:53:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: liege

In college I worked in a VERY large bar. Sometimes I was a cook and sometimes I was a “bouncer”. The waitresses shared tips “at their discretion”. The “bouncers” helped clear bottles and tables for certain waitresses “at their discretion”. And the cooks filled orders for waitresses in the order received “at their discretion”. Nobody was forced to pool and share tips.

I observed micro capitalism in practice. It seemed the best waitresses (most in tips) usually had the most crowded sections of this mega bar. Their sections always seemed the cleanest. And they seemed to be the most generous with their support staff.

There were a couple waitresses that refused to share their tips. They still got the support of the cooks and bouncers as everyone did what their jobs required. But they were also the biggest complainers about how unfair the tip disparity between waitresses working the same shifts were.

The customers that were treated the best, tipped the most. As such, staff made sure to take care of them from the kitchen to the door. Those customers requested certain staff to serve them.


26 posted on 06/05/2014 9:53:43 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Servers are paid differently than cooks, dishwashers etc.

Most tips are pooled these days...which is why you get crappy service in most places.

I have occasionally sent my compliments to the chef...but never money. It's not how it works.

27 posted on 06/05/2014 9:54:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lowbridge
Watch the wait staff run when a table of black teachers or government workers arrive for a lunch.

Here is my key to a good dining experience.

Ask the waiter or waitress to order for you what they like best. Ask the waiter or waitress to ask the chef to prepare you something off the menu which he or she would enjoy making. You could say something with chicken, beef, veal, vegan, or pasta, etc...

I promise you you will not be disappointed.

28 posted on 06/05/2014 9:54:59 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: miele man

Hmmm. Is this letter part of an organized plan to push for raising the minimum wage?

_____________________________________________

Yeppers. That phrase “pay inequality” sets off suspicions.


29 posted on 06/05/2014 9:55:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rollo tomasi

Here’s the Scene (Warning: Language)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38


30 posted on 06/05/2014 9:56:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

Tipping encourages quick, polite service.


31 posted on 06/05/2014 9:56:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
So, he doesn't tip on principle?

I guess it's just a coincidence that the cheap A-Hole keeps his money at the expense of the wait staff.

If this REALLY was on principle, he would tell the server up front that she/he should expect no tip. He would then get the service he was paying for - as a matter of principle.

32 posted on 06/05/2014 9:57:30 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Sacajaweau

A decent chef makes over $100K per year. A decent line worker makes $30 to $50K per year. We’re not talking about the kid who chops the salad fixins or the dishwasher. Those people are usually out on some sort of work release program from the state or county jail.


33 posted on 06/05/2014 9:57:34 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
the idiot that started the tipping crap should have been executed and tipping made a felony.
34 posted on 06/05/2014 9:59:18 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bigger places share tips with the bus boys and the hostesses.

I was a cook at a sit down Pizza Hut, and we always rooted for the waitresses, who bore the brunt of patrons problems, even when we made them.

Whoever wrote this ... Cheapskates! Go to the McDonald’s for your meals.


35 posted on 06/05/2014 10:00:51 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Why should the cook who prepares the food earn less than the person who takes the food to the table?

Depending on the restaurant the cook is probably earning as much or more than the waiter. And he isn't dependent on people leaving a tip instead of a snarky note.

36 posted on 06/05/2014 10:02:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is a hoax. What patron would carry this letter into a restaurant without having folded it into a manageable size? This sheet has never been folded.


37 posted on 06/05/2014 10:04:55 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I assume you mean cows....


38 posted on 06/05/2014 10:05:19 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: GeronL

ooooh no maybe you to can tell us about ‘income inequality’ like the stupid note leaver


39 posted on 06/05/2014 10:05:55 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Tenacious 1
I observed micro capitalism in practice. It seemed the best waitresses (most in tips) usually had the most crowded sections of this mega bar. Their sections always seemed the cleanest. And they seemed to be the most generous with their support staff.

Thank you for a great story.
40 posted on 06/05/2014 10:06:18 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: DJ MacWoW
They don't. Cooks are paid more.

Not only that, if the customer walks out without paying the bill, the cost of the meal comes out of the server's own pay........

I accidentally walked out of a bar without paying my meal and bar tab one night. When I woke up the following morning and realized what I had done, I was devastated and embarrassed all day and couldn't wait to get back that evening and make it right.

The waitress was there and she said that one of the other people I was with took care of it for me........That was a big relief.

41 posted on 06/05/2014 10:08:04 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: Steve_Seattle

You really do not understand the restaurant business. There is no line cook, chef (of any variety) or kitchen staff who is paid LESS than servers and waiters.

I guess you too are one of those who buy the idea of ‘income equality’....look at other systems and countries who have tried that. Better yet look at the civil service system...that tells you all you need to know


42 posted on 06/05/2014 10:08:34 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I don’t give a crap about income inequality


43 posted on 06/05/2014 10:09:02 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JimRed

“There is no law that says you cannot tip the kitchen staff if you so choose.”

Exactly. I like to eat at a few places where kitchen staff get tipped heavily. I’ve seen $100 bills be handed out for kitchen staff that are amazing. There was this place called Saffron’s that was simply amazing for food. At Christmas, the extra tipping was rather rich and well deserved.


44 posted on 06/05/2014 10:10:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Since the town my daughter waitress in has been invaded by illegals she is not making tips. They hate to tip the white girl. Especially they invading females who eat in the restaurant. I told my daughter to go find another job with a more business like clientele.
45 posted on 06/05/2014 10:13:32 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Responsibility2nd; All
Gimme a dollar you cheap son of a b***h

Reservoir Dogs

46 posted on 06/05/2014 10:14:22 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Vote Republican! We're 1/10 of 1% better than the other guys!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
My meal was made possible by an entire team of kitchen staff, servers, managers, and the establishment itself.
You didn't serve this meal.
47 posted on 06/05/2014 10:16:19 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Tenacious 1

My daughter waitress-ed all the way through college. Here is what she told me. BTW, she never asked for any money the whole four years.

- She was very good. Made more in tips than any other waitress. She averaged $15-$17 an hour in 2000.

- She shared tips with the busboys and cooks (when deserved of course). Guess whose tables always had the best food and service?

- She often stayed after closing and helped bus tables and sometimes assisted in the kitchen

- She rarely said no when called to fill in for someone on short notice

- The lazy, selfish waitresses, first out of the door at night / never shared or volunteered anything, could never figure out why she made so much more money than they. And why she was so much more well liked by most of the staff.

When she graduated from college her people skills were very impressive. She learned to deal with every kind of person one can imagine. The waitress-ing years paid major life skills dividends.

Her only complaint was that because she carried gobs of small bills, occasionally someone would ask if she was a “dancer”. That used to get her mad.

Although it’s an imperfect analogy, I compare it to working piecework. Which I did building frames in a furniture plant in college and building fence sections for a fence mfg. Busted my butt like you wouldn’t believe.


48 posted on 06/05/2014 10:17:45 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I used to tip generously when I went to a bar or a restaurant. After they enacted the smoking ban in Michigan (at the behest of the bartenders and waitstaff), I stopped going to bars and restaurants altogether. Even if they allowed smoking in a restaurant, I wouldn't smoke inside. A bar is a whole different story. Now, thanks to militant, arrogant employees in the foodservice and hospitality industry treating me like a second class citizen because I happen to smoke, I will oblige them by not giving them or their employers the correct time of day, let alone my hard earned money.
49 posted on 06/05/2014 10:18:25 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just about EVERY TIME we talk about Hank Johnson.


50 posted on 06/05/2014 10:18:26 AM PDT by moovova
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