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Tonalist spoils California Chrome's bid for the Triple Crown
Yahoo ^ | 6-7-14 | Jay Hart

Posted on 06/07/2014 4:14:03 PM PDT by kingattax

The longest wait in sports is not over.

California Chrome's bid to become the first horse to win the Triple Crown since Affirmed in 1978 fell short in Saturday's Belmont Stakes.

After winning both the Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes by a length and a half, the mile-and-a-half Belmont proved to be too much for Chrome, who finished fourth to winner Tonalist.

And with that, the longest drought in Triple Crown history continues.

Since Affirmed's sweep 36 years ago, 13 horses now have gone to Belmont Park with the Derby and Preakness in hand only to falter somehow, some way. Real Quiet was nipped at the wire in 1998; War Emblem stumbled out of the gate in 2002; Smarty Jones faltered down the stretch in '04; and I'll Have Another was scratched with an injury the day before the race in '12.

Now add Chrome's fade down the stretch to the list.

Still, it was an impressive run for Chrome, especially considering the horse's backstory: a modest pedigree, blue-collar owners, 77-year-old trainer who'd never sniffed a Triple Crown start until now and jockey who was believed to be past his prime.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: belmont; californiachrome; secretariat; soreloser; tonalist; triplecrown
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Secretariat - will always be the greatest and best race horse ever.
1 posted on 06/07/2014 4:14:03 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Tonalist and 3 others —


2 posted on 06/07/2014 4:15:59 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kingattax

Were California Chrome and Ride on Curlin the only two horses from the Preakness? It’s a lot tougher coming off that a few weeks ago.


3 posted on 06/07/2014 4:16:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: kingattax
Secretariat - will always be the greatest and best race horse ever.

I agree. Where do you place Swaps?

4 posted on 06/07/2014 4:16:12 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: kingattax
California Chrome's owner gave an interview right after the race and he is officially the sorest loser ever.

He utterly beclowned himself.

5 posted on 06/07/2014 4:16:37 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: kingattax

I agree with the owner, it’s not a fair race to race a horse who’s been in the previous Kentucky Derby and Preakness against rested horses.


6 posted on 06/07/2014 4:17:08 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Life isn’t fair....A true champion overcomes. That’s why the Triple Crown is such a rare feat. Chrome just wasn’t worthy of it in the end.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 4:18:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Beowulf9

But how else can he win the Triple Crown unless they put more time between the races? I wonder if previous years were the same amount between.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 4:19:23 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Beowulf9
I agree with the owner, it’s not a fair race to race a horse who’s been in the previous Kentucky Derby and Preakness against rested horses.

Isn't that what other Triple Crown winners have gone through?!?

9 posted on 06/07/2014 4:20:04 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Beowulf9

I know nothing about racing. But how much rest does a horse need? Preakness was 3 weeks ago. Not enough time to rest up for the next race????i


10 posted on 06/07/2014 4:20:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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To: kingattax

Does anyone know the winning time?


11 posted on 06/07/2014 4:20:56 PM PDT by Figment
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To: kingattax

Trigger and Flicka are not happy.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 4:22:47 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I have no horse in this race, (badummp chee) so it doesn’t matter one way or the other to me but is it really fair to those horses that have grinded the other 2 races to then have to go against fresh horses?
I agree with the owner. He won’t see another triple crown winner in his lifetime.


13 posted on 06/07/2014 4:23:10 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Beowulf9

“I agree with the owner, it’s not a fair race to race a horse who’s been in the previous Kentucky Derby and Preakness against rested horses.”

Someone mislead him to believe that everything in life is fair. He came off as a very sore loser, but a loser all the same


14 posted on 06/07/2014 4:23:15 PM PDT by Figment
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To: wideawake; GeronL
California Chrome's owner gave an interview right after the race and he is officially the sorest loser ever

#PHOTOFINISH

15 posted on 06/07/2014 4:23:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: kingattax

I remember that race, and I agree completely.


16 posted on 06/07/2014 4:24:57 PM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: Beowulf9

That’s why the Triple Crown is so hard to win. It’s the true champion horses that win all three races and not the better than average ones who win just the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness. Oh well, maybe next year we’ll get a Triple Crown winner.


17 posted on 06/07/2014 4:25:15 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: InterceptPoint

Blood-Horse magazine ranks Swaps 20th in their list of the top 100 U.S. thoroughbred champions of the 20th Century.

Swaps held all kinds of records and was in the money 23 of 25 starts, winning 19 times.

great horse, no doubt about that. He was a descendant of Man O’ War.


18 posted on 06/07/2014 4:25:22 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: wideawake

Sounded like a DemocRat aka loser.


19 posted on 06/07/2014 4:25:32 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: kingattax

I’ve been following horse racing since the 1960s.

The breed has been compromised by breeding for speed, instead of endurance. I think that’s why you saw so many more Triple Crown winners in the past. Also why there seems to be more injuries and deaths among a breed that has been inbred to the point of unsoundness, IMHO.


20 posted on 06/07/2014 4:25:48 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: nickcarraway

No, also General a Rod.

7 horses - just about a record recently - came from the Derby. Nice to see actually. More than half the field was in the TC trail.


21 posted on 06/07/2014 4:27:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: wideawake

It was funny watching his wife try to shut him up.


22 posted on 06/07/2014 4:28:39 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Catmom

you make a great point.


23 posted on 06/07/2014 4:28:48 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: wideawake

That’s too bad. Now he’s twice the loser.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 4:29:15 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: kingattax

I agree. But I’m disappointed CA Chrome didn’t win.


25 posted on 06/07/2014 4:29:26 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: kingattax

The owner said it best. You’ll never see another triple crown winner again if they don’t stop letting horses into the Preakness and Belmont who didn’t start the triple crown at Kentucky. .


26 posted on 06/07/2014 4:30:11 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: wideawake

yes he did, he sounded like a crybaby


27 posted on 06/07/2014 4:30:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dfwgator

That interview in the winner circle with the winning owner just now was an absolute disgrace!

NBC is scumb

That owner deserved his props and the ceremony that goes with winning such a prestigious race, in the winner circle of gods sake!
That garbage idiot bob cost as calls him out as a cheater! Really?!

What a POS that bob costus is

And to that looser whiner dap clown, you should have listened to your wife that was standing behind you, poking you to shut your mouth on air.
Now you look like a pathetic cry baby and will not bode well.

Sorry for the rant....
I’ve been around horse racing my whole life and asking a guy how he had the opacity to screw up the narrative by daring to win is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.

Maybe they should give the losers a participation trophy


28 posted on 06/07/2014 4:31:29 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: wideawake
He utterly beclowned himself.

What did he do? I didn't watch the post-race interviews.

(Mental note: Steal the word "beclowned")

29 posted on 06/07/2014 4:31:56 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: kingattax

Boooooooooooooo!!!!


30 posted on 06/07/2014 4:32:49 PM PDT by Michigander222
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To: wideawake

He’s right. Horses that did not start the first two races should not be alowed to race the third. Been saying that for years


31 posted on 06/07/2014 4:33:23 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Beowulf9
I agree with the owner, it’s not a fair race to race a horse who’s been in the previous Kentucky Derby and Preakness against rested horses.

Is that something previous Triple Crown winners didn't have to face?
32 posted on 06/07/2014 4:33:33 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: a fool in paradise

They meant the second biggest. lol


33 posted on 06/07/2014 4:33:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: kingattax

The difference in distances between the courses is significant. Chromie did fine and will pay back his owners many times over in the coming years. He is one of the very best horses around.


34 posted on 06/07/2014 4:34:05 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Vaquero

Would it have mattered to Secretariat? The Triple Crown is rare for a reason.

Did Chrome have a target on him? Damn right he did, that’s life.


35 posted on 06/07/2014 4:34:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Uncle Chip

Unusual name. Tonal-ist; one that creates a tone. Tongualist; One that causes use of tounge or talk.


36 posted on 06/07/2014 4:34:09 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Beowulf9
There were only 3 horses in this race that ran the Derby and the Preakness. That leaves 8 who did what Tonalist did.

Them’s the rules and they all know it going into the Belmont. If you think it's unfair, don't show up.

37 posted on 06/07/2014 4:34:55 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Catmom

I came very close to giving it up after the Eight Belles and Barbaro tragedies.

.


38 posted on 06/07/2014 4:35:17 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Vaquero

The Triple Crown is not a real event....It consists of three INDEPENDENT races.

Would you limit the US Open only to players that play in The Masters?


39 posted on 06/07/2014 4:35:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Beowulf9

It’s perfectly fair. It’s race has their own rules for qualification and always has. If owners REALLY want to win the Crown they’ll start homing their horse they think can contend at Belmont. Most Crown winners had stabled there, ALL had previously won there. It’s the longest hardest track, the horse needs to be up for it BEFORE the Derby or they will not win the Crown. Chrome’s owner should complain about himself, he didn’t properly prep the horse.


40 posted on 06/07/2014 4:36:56 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: Vaquero

And if they do change the rules the Triple Crown becomes meaningless because they forced one to happen.


41 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:45 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: DanielRedfoot

costas is a total waste of skin.

on another note, you probably saw the race. do you have any comment about the way Chrome’s jockey had him in perfect position on the inside and swung him off the rail completely to the outside ?

IMO that was a bad tactical mistake. Chrome looked real comfortable where he was and after the jockey moved him, he just wasn’t running the same he was up until then.

the horse just didn’t seem to like where he got moved to.


42 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:58 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax
I don't know much about horse racing, but if they change the qualification rules for the Preakness and the Belmont it seems to me it would diminish the achievements of previous triple crown winners. This (rule changes) happens all the time in my sport (auto racing) and it makes it virtually impossible to compare drivers from different eras.

It's too bad CC's owner was so bitter. It's always better to be a gracious loser. He burned a lot of good will in a few seconds.

43 posted on 06/07/2014 4:39:20 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: clintonh8r

that was unfortunate and he will probably regret it after things calm down.


44 posted on 06/07/2014 4:40:46 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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It’s a lot tougher coming off that a few weeks ago.

Exactly. That is why it is so hard to win the TC. You have fresh horses in a longer race.

But that is why a triple is so special. If it was easy anyone could do it.

45 posted on 06/07/2014 4:43:09 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Yossarian

Secretariats top rival was Sham...who ran all 3 races,,,Seattle Slews top rival was Sanhedrin...who ran all 3 races...and Alydar ran all 3 races against Affirmed...so, who knows.


46 posted on 06/07/2014 4:44:19 PM PDT by basalt
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To: basalt

There wouldn’t have been a fresh horse that would have defeated those three TC winners.


47 posted on 06/07/2014 4:45:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Vaquero
I agree with the owner.

Could you imagine the crying if an NFL team allowed to sit out the playoffs was suddenly allowed to contend for the Super Bowl?

In the past most horses raced all 3 races. You didn't see spoilers coming in. Look at the Affirmed/Alydar duel. Those two battled all 3 races and the best horse won. This thing with sitting out races and spoiling the triple started sometime in the 80s. I can't remember the name of the horse, but I remember a Derby winner who was paid over a million dollars by an Arab sheikh to skip the Preakness. That was when it started.

Horseracing has been losing popularity for years and this is one of the reasons.

48 posted on 06/07/2014 4:49:02 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

The Triple Crown is not a tournament, it is three independent events, just like the Golf and Tennis Grand Slams are separate independent tournaments. Each has its’ own criteria.


49 posted on 06/07/2014 4:51:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kingattax

I can’t say. I was pulling for Cali Chrome like everyone else, and yes it looked off.
There is a lot of planning and strategy that goes into a season much less a big race. I thought he looked off about a third in. Was expecting a burst at the end but that’s a really long track.
But what an awesome horse.

Hopefully will see his sister out there soon.

As screwed up as America is right now, America needs a Seabiscit


50 posted on 06/07/2014 4:53:02 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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