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Lone Survivor(Watching Right Now)
Vanity | 06/07/2014 | Vendome

Posted on 06/07/2014 5:52:51 PM PDT by Vendome

Walking through Target and picked up the movie "Lone Survivor".

Saw this twice at the theater and both times cried, right along with every other man.

A moving story about true brothers, who would not leave each other's side, rallied their collective strength and held each other as men, doing their level best to help the guy on the right and the guy on the left.

Sadly, only one man made it out, through shear determination and an indomitable spirit.

But, not before more good men went to rescue them, knowing they were not fully armed, not fully covered in the air but, possessed by a righteous mission to help their brothers, as those brothers would help, no matter how dire the consequences.

A story of men who would do anything to save a brother.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: american; heroes; real
No real thoughts but, thought it coincidental, given the current events and propitious to remind me that "Some Gave All".

I understand that some of the proceeds go to "The Lone Survivor Fund", a truly beneficent fund for men and women.

1 posted on 06/07/2014 5:52:51 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

Loved it but wondered why they didn’t send a man out to make a communication connection with base before letting the Afghans go.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 6:00:16 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Vendome

The only problem is that this worm gets part of your money also (the last sentence is the keeper):

Wahlberg had been in trouble 20–25 times with the Boston Police Department in his youth. By age 13, Wahlberg had developed an addiction to cocaine and other substances.[9][10] At fifteen, civil action was filed against Wahlberg for his involvement in two separate incidents of harassing African-American children (the first some siblings and the second a group of black school children on a field trip), by throwing rocks and shouting racial epithets.[11] At 16, Wahlberg approached a middle-aged Vietnamese man on the street and, using a large wooden stick, knocked him unconscious while yelling a racial epithet. That same day, he also attacked another Vietnamese man, leaving the victim permanently blind in one eye.[12][13]

For these crimes, Wahlberg was charged with attempted murder, pleaded guilty to assault, and was sentenced to two years in state prison at Boston’s Deer Island House of Correction. He served 45 days of his sentence.[12][14] In another incident, the 21-year-old Wahlberg fractured the jaw of a neighbor in an unprovoked attack.[15] Commenting in 2006 on his past crimes, Wahlberg has stated: “I did a lot of things that I regret, and I have certainly paid for my mistakes.” He said the right thing to do would be to try to find the blinded man and make amends, and admitted he has not done so, but added that he was no longer burdened by guilt:


3 posted on 06/07/2014 6:02:54 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t understand the question?


4 posted on 06/07/2014 6:29:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: bramps

He has more than redeemed himself from his youth. Redemption is a Christian value, but not one you see in play in these parts.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 6:39:49 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vendome

1. When you are compromised - it is time to exfil.

2. Triple check your comms before the mission starts


6 posted on 06/07/2014 6:52:27 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Vermont Lt

Read this warning from his recent movie ‘Ted’ and tell me again about his redemption:

Parents GuideDiscuss
Sex & Nudity
EditHistory
8/10

Frequent sex jokes and crude comments ranging from mild to graphic.

A woman’s sexual moans and the voice of a talking teddy bear also making sexual moans are heard; a man walks toward the sound and we see a bear thrusting, a woman’s legs are seen with her underwear around her ankles, it is implied that the bear is engaging in sex with the woman and we hear the teddy bear make a remark that is implied to be a sexual request.

A man makes a sexual remark about only needing “one minute” after a woman makes a sexual advance; the man pulls the woman down on a sofa, he is on top of her and they kiss.

Ted pretends to hump a cash register, implies oral sex with a candy bar, and uses a bottle of lotion to suggest being come on.

Ted draws on a woman’s breasts and proudly examples that the face of the comic cat Garfield looks like a woman’s breasts.

Four women that appear to be prostitutes surround Ted; they are wearing tight, cleavage-exposing dresses and Ted makes a remark that the women are “working girls.”

A man flirts relentlessly with a woman in a relationship.

A talking teddy bear makes an explicit sexual remark to a man about performing oral sex on the man’s wife.

A man asks a talking teddy bear if he had been engaged in sex on top of produce sold by a store, and the talking teddy bear elaborates that he had sexually pleasured a woman with a piece of produce that he later sold to a family.

A man and a woman make a series of crude sexual jokes about oral sex after a man remarks that he “does not swallow.” When talking with a man, a talking teddy bear makes a crude sexual remark about having sex with women from a certain city; he then makes crude sexual noises and moans sexually.

A talking teddy bear tells a man that he had sex with a woman; the woman makes a comment about the teddy bear’s sexual performance despite not having genitals and the teddy bear jokes that he has written many letters of complaint about not having genitals.

A man tells another man and a talking teddy bear that they need to have sex with a lot of women named Stephanie.

Behind a man’s back, a man says, “I’m going to have sex with your girlfriend.”

A talking teddy bear says to himself that he needs to have sex with a woman again.

The narrator explains that a bear had been caught eating potato salad off a woman’s bare buttocks.

A talking teddy bear makes a crude remark about a man trying to have anal sex with a woman a couple of times.

A man makes a crude joke to a woman that if he gets raped, it would be his fault because of what he is wearing.

A talking teddy bear half-jokingly remarks that a man and a boy could be father and son or lovers.

A talking teddy bear makes a sexual remark that he would have sex with an object if it were a human.

A man shows another man what appears to be a metal lump; the man explains that it is a man’s testicle that had been freeze-dried and then bronzed.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 7:30:47 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: bramps

I go the the movies almost every week and am very broadminded and tolerant but “Ted” was one of the most vulgar,tasteless movies I ever saw,and I’ve been quite verbal about it.

My teenaged grand kids thought it was very funny-—which horrified me.

.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 7:35:28 PM PDT by Mears
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To: bramps

You seem to know quite a bit about Wahlberg. What do you know about Healy, Suh, Patton, Axelson, Murphy, and Luttrell?


9 posted on 06/07/2014 7:40:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: bramps

Good God really??????? I would hate to be your Father or Mother...whatever. Sheesh you are very unforgiven. He goes to Church TWICE on Sunday once early in the morning and then another time with the family. He is one of the best people as well as actors in Hollywood.


10 posted on 06/07/2014 8:05:06 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: bramps

I saw Ted twice at the theater and own it on Amazon Instant Video. I make no apologies. And again what does this have to do with the current topic. Bringing up old topics means you have nothing of meaning to give us from the thread.


11 posted on 06/07/2014 8:06:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: bramps

Well, that movie was funny.

Clearly you have a general problem with Hollywood and this guy in particular.

You need to do some more research about how he lives his life off the screen.

We can agree to disagree.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 8:09:49 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Gene Eric; bramps

Bingo.

The story and the men are the subject.

Not some cynic who can’t even walk on water.

Still watchin.

This is a long movie and then I’m going to watch the extra scene about these men.


13 posted on 06/07/2014 8:21:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Well, just, Damn!

Didn’t think I’d cry but, I did again.

The last battle is breathtaking, as I know his brothers have come for him.

To steal him from the enemy, keep him close, safe and warm...and loved.

Mohammed Gulob showed great strength and courage to a foreigner.

The scene of flag draped coffins and soldiers breaking down as they mourn a fallen friend. ..

Too much.

I think this film goes Schindler List for me.

It’s too much and I don’t think I can watch it again.

Made donations to Wounded Warrior and Lone Survivor Funds.


14 posted on 06/07/2014 8:47:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Definitely looking forward to the film. How did you rent?


15 posted on 06/07/2014 8:52:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vendome

Incredible movie. My wife and I went to see it when it came out. She didn’t understand why SEALS do what they do. I couldn’t explain, but I understand. I have buddies I served with that would do such things. It is a hard thing to explain. All I can say is that the makers of this movie did a hell of a job.

I can’t remember the Bible verse, but it goes like a man laying down his life for his friend. Book of John I believe. That explains it all.


16 posted on 06/07/2014 8:55:30 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: 2banana

Thnx...


17 posted on 06/07/2014 8:56:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gene Eric

Just went ahead and bought it at the check stand in Target.


18 posted on 06/07/2014 8:58:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Texas resident

Amazing movie...


19 posted on 06/07/2014 8:59:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Okay. Will be renting when available.


20 posted on 06/07/2014 8:59:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vendome

Take it all in bud.
It is worth it.

TR.


21 posted on 06/07/2014 9:04:00 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: Texas resident

Freaking hurt and felt good at the same time.

Amazing men with indomitable spirit...


22 posted on 06/07/2014 9:16:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

23 posted on 06/07/2014 9:24:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
What I meant was this.

The SEAL's knew that there was a significant enemy presence in the village and they knew when they released the Afghans they would run to town and tell them of their position on the mountain.

So given that the mission had been compromised, why didn't the LT send a radio man to a higher peak to establish contact with their base so that their extraction could be arranged before they released the Afghans. For that matter, they could even have taken the Afghans to the extraction point and released them there.

24 posted on 06/08/2014 3:52:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

From what I gathered about the OP it wasn’t certain, due to location and terrain, that simply moving would give them elevation and no obstruction (mountains).

If it were me I would have been comfortable taking them with me until comms could be established.

I would have let them go once my exfil was certain and I was minutes away from safety on a chopper.

But, they were in a conflict emotionally and morally. They knew there were some 200 men who would kill them if they could and stuck with 3 individuals who compromised their safety, location and the mission.

The choices were:

1. Let em go and make a run for a better position to egress safely. The risks we now know.

2. Tie em to trees and gain as much real estate as possible between them, to safely exfil.

They had a moral conflict with letting three people freeze to death or be eaten by wild animals.

3. They could kill them, save themselves and the mission but, that opens them up for Leavenworth.

They weighed all these options and made what was the best choice for them, that they felt comfortable with.

That is one of the elements that make this story so compelling.

Morality and the choices.

They chose to take a chance that these people would give them a chance to escape and also, as they were unarmed, this choice was fairer and emotionally something they would be comfortable with.

They gambled and it didn’t work out as they hoped.

They exemplify all that is American.

We’ll fight anyone but, not in an unfair fight. It’s unseemly to most of us, to engage in action when the other side will obviously lose.

I personally would been able to live with lashing them to trees and living to fight another day.

Tough choices but, it gives us insight into how our men think, and they are thinkers, in a situation where they have some time to consider possibilities.

Very different from the other side, whose only focus is killing and killing all the time.

They are broken as humans, while our men don’t feel compelled to kill anything that moves.


25 posted on 06/08/2014 7:46:48 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
The 4th choice (and best choice) was the one you mentioned.

Send the radioman to a point at which he can make contact and arrange exfil and then either move the Afghans with me (to be released nearer the extraction point) OR release them before moving out (depending on the distance to the extraction point).

I am sure they had their reasons for letting the Afghans go once the mission was compromised...but it sure looks like a mistake where we sit.;-)

To make traveling with prisoners easier (and depending on the distance to extraction point), they might have tied up the old man and the tough guy and taken the kid who, when released, could have returned and untied them.

26 posted on 06/08/2014 8:15:01 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Gene Eric

What does that have to do with anything? Id bet they were great men. Does’t make marky mark a great man by association.


27 posted on 06/08/2014 10:16:35 AM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Vermont Lt

He’s as liberal as they come.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 10:19:24 AM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: bramps

>> What does that have to do with anything?

Considering the focus of the vanity, that’s a good question concerning your responses.

The vanity is about SEAL Team 10, not Wahlburg’s delinquencies.


29 posted on 06/08/2014 10:26:49 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mears

“Ted” wasn’t funny at all. I was bored stupid by it. Seth MacFarlane is a one-trick pony who thinks pop culture references are jokes.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 10:37:22 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: bramps

And you base that on personal experience with him? You are getting sucked in by the media you all claim to hate.


31 posted on 06/08/2014 11:39:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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