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Are butter, cheese and meat that bad?
cnn.com ^ | 6-6-14 | Nadia Kounang

Posted on 06/07/2014 9:33:26 PM PDT by windcliff

4:30 PM ET and Sunday at 7:30 AM ET.

(CNN) -- "To eat, or not to eat?" For many people these days, that really is the question.

For the past four decades, we've been told to stay away from red meat, dairy and cheese -- foods high in saturated fats -- because saturated fat is bad for the heart.

But investigative reporter Nina Teicholz says that isn't the case.

"When the dietary recommendations came out in 1961 saying that saturated fat causes heart disease, that was based on total cholesterol," Teicholz said. "But our understanding of heart disease has evolved enormously."

She said the science condemning saturated fats just isn't there. In her new book, "The Big Fat Surprise," Teicholz writes that the low-fat, fruit- and vegetable-filled diet that you thought was healthy doesn't have all the benefits it claims.

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Cardiologist: Don't demonize fat

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America's obesity crisis Dr. Walter Willett, chairman of the department of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health, cautions readers to take her findings with a grain of -- well, not salt.

Your risk for heart disease depends on HDL and LDL cholesterol: good and bad cholesterol. And scientists know, he said, that saturated fat raises unhealthy LDL levels in the blood.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: dietrecommendations; fat; saturatedfats

1 posted on 06/07/2014 9:33:26 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

Eat what you like. We’re all going to die of something.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 9:36:33 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: windcliff

Eat whatever you want, just don’t eat so much of it.


3 posted on 06/07/2014 9:37:30 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: windcliff

As I read once, when you eat and your body wants to store the excess as fat, it all becomes saturated fat. So your body can’t think that saturated fat is bad.

I wonder if the eating guidelines, trying to steer people away from the diets they ate for centuries, are part of the obesity problem. If people don’t get enough of the right kind of nutrient, then it makes sense that they would be compelled to eat more food until they get enough of it.


4 posted on 06/07/2014 9:38:54 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: windcliff

No, actually, they’re delicious.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 9:39:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: windcliff
I heard on the radio......her main point is that we eat less meat and more carbs and instead of getting healthier, we are actually sicker....

also read from a nutritionist about fads, elimation diets, etc....she said basicall they're all a bunch of hooey.....moderation is the key....

today its gluten free this and that....they did an double blind test on several groups and found no difference at all and how they felt, glutin free or not...

6 posted on 06/07/2014 9:42:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: exDemMom

I read somewhere that you can totally stop eating for weeks at a time.

Not that I would ever want to try that.


7 posted on 06/07/2014 9:46:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: windcliff

It is noble’s food. This is why they have been trying to scare us peons away from it for so long.


8 posted on 06/07/2014 9:47:36 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: windcliff

The idea that there’s ever going to be some sort of new, magic bullet diet, avoiding this but more of that, that’s going to be the perfect diet for every single person should have been discredited by now. So much faddism, so much interference from sources that have become politicized. Watch your portions. Don’t go overboard on anything. Move around more, maybe even exercise. You’ll find that it’s not so much the food but what you are or aren’t doing with it once digested.


9 posted on 06/07/2014 9:55:20 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: windcliff

They’re three of the seven food groups. The others are coffee, fish, salami and peanut butter.


10 posted on 06/07/2014 9:57:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I thought chocolate was a food group.


11 posted on 06/07/2014 9:59:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That makes eight. Somethings’s off here.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 10:02:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Bacon is one of the major food groups.


13 posted on 06/07/2014 10:13:04 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Doomonyou

That makes nine. Just how many food groups are there?


14 posted on 06/07/2014 10:15:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well, the ones I know are Meat, Potatoes, Bacon, Cheese, and beer.


15 posted on 06/07/2014 10:21:59 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: windcliff

Bookmark


16 posted on 06/07/2014 10:36:34 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: dfwgator

mine would include hoisin and sriracha along with the beer.


17 posted on 06/07/2014 10:44:04 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: windcliff

Real butter only, no margarine.
Only good cuts of meat.
Provolone cheese sliced thin then rolled up to eat.


18 posted on 06/07/2014 10:59:53 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: dfwgator
I thought chocolate was a food group.

It is, right along with dairy. The chocolate goes on top of the ice cream.

19 posted on 06/07/2014 11:01:28 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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>> Teicholz writes that the low-fat, fruit- and vegetable-filled diet that you thought was healthy doesn’t have all the benefits it claims.

The vegetable part is definitely healthy.


20 posted on 06/08/2014 12:28:51 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cherry

There’s truth to what you heard on the radio.

Unfortunately, moderation alone isn’t enough for diabetics.


21 posted on 06/08/2014 12:31:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Oratam

The only food science clear to me is: Porterhouse. The filet mignon needs the extra help.


22 posted on 06/08/2014 4:03:26 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: exDemMom

I wonder if the eating guidelines, trying to steer people away from the diets they ate for centuries, are part of the obesity problem.

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I have read more than one article expressing such an opinion from a scientist. Apparently, we are eating just too darn much grain and too many complex carbohydrates.

Remember the Food Pyramid that we have been told is the way to go? I read some article within the last few months that proposed that much of the make-up of that guide was pushed by those who stood to make money from selling us the grain-filled products.


23 posted on 06/08/2014 6:30:14 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: GeronL

I was hospitalized following an accident many years ago. The hospital starved me for four days. I was so hungry that I was begging for food... all they gave me was Jello.

At the time, there were no CAT or PET or MRI scans; the only way to determine if I had internal injuries was to wait and see if I would develop symptoms. The fact that I became hungry was an indicator that I had no internal injuries.

It was not a nice experience.


24 posted on 06/08/2014 6:37:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: cherry
today its gluten free this and that.

Gluten free makes sense for people who have celiac disease. But for healthy people to avoid gluten because people with a specific disease cannot eat it makes no sense. It makes as much sense as avoiding sugar because it's bad for diabetics.

Eventually, this fad will pass like most eating fads. A small number of orthorexics will maintain the diet, while the rest of the food faddists move on to something else.

25 posted on 06/08/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
I am one of those of whom you speak. My blood test say that I do not have celiac disease but wheat clogs me up (if you catch my drift). I avoid it at all costs. It was not always that way just a couple of years ago sever constipation led to a visit to the ER. No more bread, pasta for me.
26 posted on 06/08/2014 6:48:36 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Bigg Red
I have read more than one article expressing such an opinion from a scientist.

Count me among the scientists.

A lot of these "studies" are designed to turn up correlations, nothing else. Physicians design these studies, uncover correlations, and rush to publish as if the correlation proves anything. Then more correlative studies are performed, showing that the correlation is real. There is nothing wrong with showing a correlation, as long as one understands what a correlation really means (hint: by itself, it does not show causation).

Nothing against physicians, but most of them are not trained in research techniques and do not understand the scientific method.

Sorry about the soapbox. As a scientist, the prevalence of unfounded claims being made on the basis of correlations is a pet peeve of mine.

27 posted on 06/08/2014 6:52:31 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: windcliff

I suppose to idiots like liberals, rocks, twigs, and leaves are better.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 7:26:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: windcliff

We have dropped margarine and gone back on butter. Cheese and meat? Everyday.


29 posted on 06/08/2014 8:15:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

There are four major food groups: Orange, Brown, Green and Off-white.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 8:26:00 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: windcliff

31 posted on 06/08/2014 8:30:53 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I dropped margarine years ago, meat,cheese and butter every day! We eat lots of green vegetables too!


32 posted on 06/08/2014 8:42:00 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I forgot to mention milk! For a couple of old farts we drink a lot, almost 2 gallons a week!


33 posted on 06/08/2014 8:43:52 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I fry bacon in butter.


34 posted on 06/08/2014 12:22:18 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That makes perfect sense! :D


35 posted on 06/08/2014 1:02:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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