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Monarch butterfly decline linked to spread of GM crops
CBC ^ | 6/4/2014 | Emily Chung

Posted on 06/09/2014 5:05:10 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight

The main cause of the monarch butterfly's decline is the loss of milkweed — its food — in its U.S. breeding grounds, a new study has found. That all but confirms that the spread of genetically modified crops is indirectly killing the monarch.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: agriculture; butterfly; crops; gmo; monarch
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1 posted on 06/09/2014 5:05:10 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

They came for the Monarchs and I said nothing...


2 posted on 06/09/2014 5:06:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Bull flap. They use insecticide for non GM crops just as much or possibly more(if the crop is modified to repulse insects )


3 posted on 06/09/2014 5:10:37 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!

I remember when it was the frogs that were mysteriously disappearing, by the way.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 5:17:49 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Vaquero

Monarch butterflies threatened by GM crops in U.S., study says

The evidence points to the U.S. corn belt, where increased cultivation of genetically modified corn and soybean crops comes with a devastating side effect for milkweed.

When GM crops are planted, fields are sprayed with herbicides to wipe out any wild plants that don`t share the crops’ genetically engineered protection. In the past, herbicides would typically be applied early in the growing season, when milkweed seeds are still underground. With GM crops, the spraying happens later, and any milkweed growing adjacent to the crops is hit hard.

Even before GM crops were adopted, milkweed was never overly abundant. Farmers found only “30 or 40 stems per acre,” said Chip Taylor, an insect ecologist at the University of Kansas who was not involved in the study.

Despite the modest number plants, a survey done in 2000 found that “corn and soybean fields were producing more monarchs per acre than anything else,” said Dr. Taylor, who is also the director of Monarch Watch, a conservation and outreach group.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/monarch-butterflies-threatened-by-gm-crops-in-us-study-says/article18994894/

I’m not a scientist and I don’t know anything about butterflies other than they are pretty.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 5:19:00 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Don’t forget the Bees. They are actually more important. LOL

I’d say a lot of foreign bugs getting into this country are a bigger worry. Both human and insect variety.

People forget Typhoid Mary. 1 infected person can spread all kinds of disease. Look at the rise in TB with the ILLEGAL INVADERS from mexico where that an many other child hood disease we had irradiated due to vaccines.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 5:23:47 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promisesI to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Sure it is not the massive use of pesticides,herbicides, etc by Big Agribiz?


7 posted on 06/09/2014 5:24:22 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: ilovesarah2012

still say it is bogus....sounds like a plan to vilify technology that will keep us fed. another zer0 plan to make us 3rd world material.


8 posted on 06/09/2014 5:27:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Whoa, why do they only herbicide practice this method for GMO crops?


9 posted on 06/09/2014 5:28:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Vaquero

Our bodies are not designed to handle GM foods.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 5:30:02 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Bush’s fault.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 5:31:38 AM PDT by YourAdHere (I flip off all Obama bumper stickers.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

This can be solved by paying a mere $100 billion to farmers to plant milkweed fields. Maybe if you could make overpriced ethanol from milkweed you could double up on the federal gravy train. (I wish I was joking, but someone will seriously propose it.)


12 posted on 06/09/2014 5:32:36 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Vaquero

Exactly, the conventional pesticides for insect control for corn and soybeans are far more dangerous to butterflies (and to humans). But you can fool some of the people all of the time...and it is a good fund raising project for University researchers and groups like Greenpeace and Fiends of the Earth who have been carrying this message now for 20 years.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 5:33:11 AM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

I thought the unusually cold winter(caused by Global Warming) in Northern Mexico was the main cause.
There are a few areas in N. Mexico that are the winter grounds for millions of monarchs.
One way or another it’s man’s fault. Esp. republicans.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 5:34:04 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

What is the Monarch base line prior to corn farming?

Absent that number, the article is pure propaganda


15 posted on 06/09/2014 5:34:56 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Even before GM crops were adopted, milkweed was never overly abundant. Farmers found only “30 or 40 stems per acre,” said Chip Taylor, an insect ecologist at the University of Kansas who was not involved in the study.

Hmm... Growing up we had that much per 100 square feed in places. I used to love the milkweed plants as a kid. If the density has truly declined THAT much, then GM crops are not the cause. We used to also walk and hand spray beans back then. I think it means we have better herbicides (for now, the weeds are becoming increasingly resistant to RoundUp).

16 posted on 06/09/2014 5:40:49 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

There were once plenty of big bull frogs around our lake.
Now, only tree frogs are seen hereabouts.


17 posted on 06/09/2014 5:45:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: stockpirate

Exactly. But you can’t reason with some people. Sorry but I don’t eat gene splicing in my food....at the minimum it’s causing a destruction of normal GI flora, and who knows what else??


18 posted on 06/09/2014 5:49:43 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“There were once plenty of big bull frogs around our lake.”

I haven’t seen turtles, frogs, garden snakes, or rabbits around my property for years. We live on a wooded property too.


19 posted on 06/09/2014 5:51:40 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: redgolum

Even something as old as 2,4-D is used to control milkweed. GMO has nothing to do with it in this case. Many herbicides control milkweed.


20 posted on 06/09/2014 6:10:43 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: Doctor 2Brains
North American frogs died off due to a skin fungus (Chytrid Fungus) thought to have been brought here from Africa infecting domestic frogs. This was blamed for years on pesticides and/or "climate change".

21 posted on 06/09/2014 6:27:40 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

MY neighbors hate me.
They hate that because the lawn is not manicured looking.

I intentionally sow milkweed on my property.
I love the smell of milkweed flowers and watching the Monarch butterflies dance from flower to flower.

Now I have an excellent reason to grow this weed.


22 posted on 06/09/2014 6:27:40 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Why do we need so many Monarch butterflies anyway???


23 posted on 06/09/2014 6:29:06 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

This is kind of a crap headline, the “problem” is not so much the GMO, but the fact that they can use indisciminate herbicides like glyphosate, and they do so, thus reducing the milkweed population.


24 posted on 06/09/2014 6:29:13 AM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Still plenty of turtles in Lake of the Ozarks.
We also occasionally see large, flat shelled turtles moving through our property.
I think these are land going critters, not water living.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 6:31:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
I haven’t seen turtles, frogs, garden snakes, or rabbits around my property for years. We live on a wooded property too.

I've lived in the suburbs of Orlando for 20 years. Today I see more wildlife than I've ever seen.

When we first moved here I never saw turkeys. Now they are like rats. Also gopher tortise, racoons, rabbits, snakes, hawks, armadillos, possum and alligators on a daily basis. Now even black bears are more abundant.

26 posted on 06/09/2014 6:59:39 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: Iscool
"Why do we need so many Monarch butterflies anyway???"

Thank you. I have a bug phobia and I can't stand the things. G. Gordon Liddy was right---butterflies are nothing but big ugly moths wearing fancy dresses.

27 posted on 06/09/2014 7:05:10 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

What an idiot this writer is. Opposed as I am to GMOs, the loss of the milkweeds is not brought about by GMOs unless someone is planting GMO versions of milkweed plants.

I skimmed the source article and gathered that the biologist whose study inspired this clown’s article concluded that there was a loss of milkweed plants because the farmers are using herbicides to kill weeds. Pretty sure farmers were using herbicides before the introduction of GMOs.

I guess “GMO” is one of those terms that they just like to wave out there to get lefty loon attention.


28 posted on 06/09/2014 7:37:50 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I remember when it was the frogs that were mysteriously disappearing, by the way.

***
Funny you should mention the frog story. On a recent beautiful late spring evening, as I was sitting on my back porch, hearing the frog chorus made me wonder whatever happened to that narrative.


29 posted on 06/09/2014 7:40:54 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: GailA

Well said.

Regarding the many insects, I wonder just how many invasives have been brought to the US in products from China, Viet Nam, Sri Lanka, Mexico, etc.


30 posted on 06/09/2014 7:43:28 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Durus

North American frogs died off due to a skin fungus ....

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Thanks for that info. I had not heard that. Is there any conclusion on how the fungus reached the USA?


31 posted on 06/09/2014 7:47:40 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

had nothing to do with the massive die off a few years ago due to cold temperatures in mexico?


32 posted on 06/09/2014 7:53:44 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: stockpirate

Uh, they have been genetically modifying food crops forever. What else is cross breeding and hybridization?


33 posted on 06/09/2014 8:16:11 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Read this passage and you can see flaws in the argument and conflict of interest.

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Even before GM crops were adopted, milkweed was never overly abundant. Farmers found only “30 or 40 stems per acre,” said Chip Taylor, an insect ecologist at the University of Kansas who was not involved in the study.

Despite the modest number plants, a survey done in 2000 found that “corn and soybean fields were producing more monarchs per acre than anything else,” said Dr. Taylor, who is also the director of Monarch Watch, a conservation and outreach group.

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Bull flap, as another poster wrote, is probably an accurate assessment.


34 posted on 06/09/2014 8:31:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Vaquero

“still say it is bogus....sounds like a plan to vilify technology that will keep us fed. another zer0 plan to make us 3rd world material.”

Yes. Pretty much the case for all the anti-GM food propaganda.


35 posted on 06/09/2014 8:33:06 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: stockpirate

“Our bodies are not designed to handle GM foods.”

Can you elaborate with some scientific details. How is this known? What is it due to? Etc...


36 posted on 06/09/2014 8:34:04 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ilovesarah2012

Simple solution. Let the sobbing liberals buy up land and plant milkweed on it.


37 posted on 06/09/2014 8:41:51 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

‘WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!’

This is true, we all are going to die, maybe sooner than we think. Research bees. Without them our crop yields will plummet, in some area bees are being imported to pollinate crops and have been for some years. Basically they are being rented by beekeepers in areas with an abundance to areas, mainly in the Midwest, where they are sparse. Beekeeper I know who is in the know thinks it is the stuff being put on lawns to keep down weeds, others think it is a virus. Dieoffs of entire bee farms, I guess you call them, are happening. Whatever the cause, once it is there it moves from hive to hive wiping them out.
Locally they are few here now, they were everywhere. You had to be careful walking barefoot years ago, not now. I am in Ky. As a kid I walked barefoot a lot, we got shoes for Christmas.


38 posted on 06/09/2014 8:46:12 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: stockpirate
Our bodies are not designed to handle GM foods.

mine is...I had the upgrade

39 posted on 06/09/2014 8:51:56 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Bigg Red
The virus (causing deformed frogs) and skin disease(killed adult frogs) ran it's course and the frogs came back.
40 posted on 06/09/2014 8:55:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: CPT Clay; Vaquero

“Sure it is not the massive use of pesticides,herbicides, etc by Big Agribiz?”

It’s not pesticides but widespread use of the herbicide Roundup that is involved.

Soybean and corn have been genetically modified to be immune to Roundup. This permits Roundup to be heavily sprayed on soy and corn crops without killing those plants.

A side effect has been to reduce or eliminate milkweed from the borders of the crop fields.

Before the GM-Roundup system was developed milkweed would typically grow along the edges of crop fields. Monarchs need milkweed in order to feed and reproduce.


41 posted on 06/09/2014 9:15:45 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: AppyPappy

“Whoa, why do they only herbicide practice this method for GMO crops?”

Because Roundup will kill non-GMO soy and corn.


42 posted on 06/09/2014 9:18:04 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Typical liberal BS “science.” Take any malady, take something liberals hate, then blame it for the malady. No science research or evidence required.


43 posted on 06/09/2014 9:20:03 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Moonman62

Farmers may rescue the Monarch:

‘Milkweed is becoming a serious crop, thanks to Win Phippen, associate professor at Western Illinois University. The ag researcher has learned how to row crop milkweed and now is working on equipment to harvest, dry and process the pods which contain white floss that currently proves to be valuable.

“Maximum field size is about five acres, and the best sites will have trees nearby,” says Phippen. “Milkweed needs bees for pollination, and if there aren’t enough bees, yield goes down.”

Unlike some alternative crops, plenty of uses for milkweed already exist. A Nebraska company, Natural Fibers Corp., has developed multiple markets for milkweed products, such as mixing floss with goose down for pillows and comforters. They even freeze-dry and grind leaves to sell to Monarch butterfly breeders. USDA researchers have found the seed meal kills nematodes and fall armyworms. The oil is rich in Vitamin E and has potential for use as a moisturizer. In addition, the floss is very absorbent.

“Milkweed floss outperforms everything at absorbing oils, and it can be used in insulation, ceiling tiles and other products,” says Phippen. “The problem is there isn’t the quantity available that large companies need.”’
- See more at: http://www.farmshow.com/view_articles.php?a_id=223#sthash.oXSS0Ds9.dpuf


44 posted on 06/09/2014 9:37:17 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham

I read that milkweed silk was used to stuff life jackets in the days of old.

I’m saving the silk to make a comforter or pillow. I figure, if we get another flood, I have a ready made boat.


45 posted on 06/09/2014 9:49:18 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Pelham

I live miles away from farms...there are plenty of milkweed lining the roads.

farms are a man made situations. no man, no farms, less edges, less milkweed on the edges. so the worst we will have is a normal pre factory-farm amount of milkweed and monarchs....

good, good.


46 posted on 06/09/2014 10:00:13 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

“I live miles away from farms...there are plenty of milkweed lining the roads.”

And that sounds like conventional farming where Roundup isn’t sprayed indiscriminately. You’d kill your own crop if you sprayed glycophosphate on it. Conventional farmers will use it carefully.

The problem only arises in huge monoculture plantings where modified seed is used and the entire area is sprayed with glycophosphate. The Monarchs better hope that some Roundup resistant milkweed shows up.


47 posted on 06/09/2014 10:52:48 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Milkweed silk is used to fill ‘allergy free’ pillows and comforters. Pricey stuff.

I have milkweed plants in my garden. Monarch caterpillars have chewed all of the leaves off of most of them but they are perennials and are already leafing out again.


48 posted on 06/09/2014 10:57:59 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham

Quite interesting, however, as with many articles, not all the “facts” match observations or the “facts” are not all there. The pollination of milkweed is accomplished in a complex manner by pollinia http://www.restoringthelandscape.com/2013/02/milkweed-pollination-sticky-situation.html

These are sacks of pollen which can become attached to a visiting insect’s leg. For successful pollienation, the pollinia needs to be transferred to a specific location on another flower. A honeybee is generally strong enough to yank the pollinia free, but sometimes becomes trapped and dies. The mode of attachment of the pollinia differs from the normal collection of pollen by the bees. Mostly they gather pollen particles and stuff them among the hairs on their back legs (termed pollen baskets). When they return to the hive the pollen is easily removed & stored or processed for bee larva food. Don’t know if they are able to harvest the pollinia which is attached to the bee’s foot.

I would think milkweed pollination on a scale described in this article would be associated with a high bee mortality rate.


49 posted on 06/09/2014 11:56:33 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Okay, thanks.


50 posted on 06/09/2014 12:00:54 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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