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Tech Question - Need Input About Dual Wan Routers
Me ^ | 6/9/2014 | The Louiswu

Posted on 06/09/2014 12:48:15 PM PDT by The Louiswu

I have a client that has 2 ISP's, Frontier and Mediacom and is running POS/Credit Card machines through the Frontier service primarily, however Frontier goes out from time to time so they would like to be able to switch to the Mediacom service easily and quickly during those down times. Question, is a dual wan router the best answer to this issue?

Thanks for the input.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: dualwan; networking; router; tech

1 posted on 06/09/2014 12:48:15 PM PDT by The Louiswu
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To: The Louiswu
Like this one?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-R470T-Broadband-Changeable-Ethernet/dp/B005SYQBN8

2 posted on 06/09/2014 12:52:53 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: The Louiswu

I am a Cisco CCIE and have 20+ years of experience in the industry.

Your options are:
1) primary link with alternate technology backup (T1 with ISDN backup for example) Usually a single vendor solution

2) primary link with identical backup (T1 primary T1 secondary) Usually a two vendor solution

3) dual primary load balanced (T1 + T1) Usually a dual vendor solution

Matrix this by one or two routers. Due to cost, most small companies will go with a single router solution. If the attempt is to protect against the local router failure as well, a two router solution is required.

The short answer is Yes, a single router dual connected will provide fail over in the event of a single carrier outage. What it will NOT protect against is local loop failure or router failure.

I should caution that option #2 and #3 are increasing in complexity and will most likely require bringing in a VAR that has BGP load balancing experience as some of the configuration could get very complicated.


3 posted on 06/09/2014 12:57:30 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: The Louiswu

you want a network device with automatic fall over. Fortinet and others support this... The device will have WAN1 and WAN2 ports..

A cheap switch won’t be able to handle this.

Might be easier to just have two network cables at the device. if one goes down, plug the other in.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 12:58:13 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: The Louiswu
You want a firewall/router which supports WAN failover such as this one:

Linksys LRT224 Dual WAN Router.

5 posted on 06/09/2014 1:12:33 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: The Louiswu
Question: Because this is for a POS Credit Card system there may be more involved then just rolling to a new isp during an outage..(I do PCI...Payment Card Industry...compliant networks) you going to need to contact you pos vendor to get a handle on the data flows and security in place...Bottom line the point of the connection and your need for a stable link is for your Business POS..so start with your POS vendor first so your solution works with POS system requirements..they probably have address this types of issues in the past and might have a simpler solution for redundancy backup..plus addressing being pci compliant.
6 posted on 06/09/2014 1:31:12 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: tophat9000; The Louiswu

“with your POS vendor first so your solution works with POS system requirements..they probably have address this types of issues in the past and might have a simpler solution for redundancy backup..plus addressing being pci compliant. “

^THIS^


7 posted on 06/09/2014 2:17:21 PM PDT by Yehuda (Search youtube and listen to "Islams Not For Me".)
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To: The Louiswu
I have a client that has 2 ISP's, Frontier and Mediacom and is running POS/Credit Card machines through the Frontier service primarily, however Frontier goes out from time to time so they would like to be able to switch to the Mediacom service easily and quickly during those down times. Question, is a dual wan router the best answer to this issue?

Take a look at Mikrotik Routerboards. Here's where we get them.

Be warned -- they are not your typical home router. Much more complex to set up.

With our customer's, it's usually Mediacom that gives out, and sometimes in such a way as the router can't tell the connection is down (break is further down the line). I have a couple customer's with SonicWall NSA240s, with failover set up. It checks the connection by pinging some site at set times. Gets around this mediacom problem.

8 posted on 06/09/2014 2:30:53 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: The Louiswu
A dual wan router that is POS/Credit compliant is what you need

here is a website that can help

http://dualwan.org/

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/rv082-dual-wan-vpn-router/index.html

9 posted on 06/09/2014 2:40:04 PM PDT by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: The Louiswu

Say “Dual Wan Routers” 3 times while eating fried rice.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 2:41:58 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: The Louiswu
How about using smart-phone swipers and a low cost cell service like Republic Wireless? For Example
11 posted on 06/09/2014 3:13:34 PM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: The Louiswu

Good Grief! When you have only a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Install an additional network card, plug the second modem into that, download and install Connectify Dispatch, and you are in business, fall-over and all. AND your throughput is much higher. That’s it. Try keep up guys.


12 posted on 06/09/2014 5:06:56 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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