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Conn. Mom Arrested After Son Brings Grenade To Show-And-Tell
CBS New York ^ | 6/10

Posted on 06/10/2014 3:45:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The mother of a 12-year-old Connecticut boy has been arrested after police say her son brought a grenade to school for a show-and-tell related to 70th anniversary of D-Day

Lisa Miguel, of Stratford, was charged with risk of injury to a minor, reckless endangerment and illegal possession of an explosive.

Stratford Academy was placed on lockdown Friday. Students were sent to the back of the school. A bomb squad determined the grenade was a simulator used for training and still had the pin inside.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: connecticut; schools; weapons
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1 posted on 06/10/2014 3:45:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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A bomb squad determined the grenade was a simulator ...

Does that mean it wasn't actually a grenade, just a grenade-looking-thing?

My youngest son got a grenade - hollow plastic, but authentically green! - in a soldier Hallowe'en costume kit a couple of years ago.

2 posted on 06/10/2014 3:48:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: nickcarraway

I wish I could have been there to see the faces on the teachers and administrators.


3 posted on 06/10/2014 3:48:33 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: nickcarraway

Probably one quick look would tell anyone with common sense it was a training grenade. I used to play with them myself when I was a kid. What kind of idjits do we have running our schools?!


4 posted on 06/10/2014 3:49:05 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: nickcarraway

Next thing you know the kid will be selling powdered sugar.


5 posted on 06/10/2014 3:50:51 PM PDT by outofsalt
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To: nickcarraway
A bomb squad determined the grenade was a simulator used for training and still had the pin inside.

So, what explosive did she have in her possession that would warrant charges of risk of injury to a minor, reckless endangerment and illegal possession of an explosive?

Inquiring minds want to know.

6 posted on 06/10/2014 3:50:57 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Tax-chick

Some training grenades actually have a blasting cap inside. I hope it wasn’t one of those.

I have a couple of those around here somewhere - minus the arming mechanism.


7 posted on 06/10/2014 3:51:31 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tax-chick

“Does that mean it wasn’t actually a grenade, just a grenade-looking-thing?”

Should read the article before posting ....


8 posted on 06/10/2014 3:53:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks, Son.


9 posted on 06/10/2014 3:53:57 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Inquiring minds want to know.”

Inquiring minds should read the article.


10 posted on 06/10/2014 3:54:27 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Tax-chick

“Does that mean it wasn’t actually a grenade, just a grenade-looking-thing?”
______________________________________________
When I was a kid, empty grenade shells were quite common. I remember having one back in the 50s.
So many things today are much ado about nothing.


11 posted on 06/10/2014 3:54:58 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: nickcarraway; xzins
A bomb squad determined the grenade was a simulator used for training

Nobody was ever in danger. I think we used to take these to school all the time when I was a kid.

At one time these were sold at the Army Navy surplus stores.

Remember those?

I think now we sell all that surplus stuff to the terrorists in Syria.

I remember bringing realistic looking cap guns to school so we could play cowboys and Indians during lunch.

Those days are gone. Now you can't even say "Cowboys and Indians" and you'll get expelled if you even draw a picture of a gun.

12 posted on 06/10/2014 3:55:17 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s one thing for a 6 year old bringing a *toy* gun to school but a 12 year old bring something that even *looks* like a grenade is another.


13 posted on 06/10/2014 3:55:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Tax-chick
I used to make fake fire crackers. Big and red, but stuffed with wadded paper, with a gunpowder-infused wick made from cannibalized little fire crackers. Looked just like the ones in the cartoons that blew up Sylvester. Light it and see everyone scatter. Those were the days.
14 posted on 06/10/2014 3:55:39 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: nickcarraway
The principal at my high school had this on his desk for all four years I was there:



He'd probably get gunned down by a SWAT team now.
15 posted on 06/10/2014 3:56:14 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: smokingfrog

So it might have gone Bang.

I think the school should get some points for mentioning the 70th anniversary of D-Day. It seems (from what my friends tell me) that most students don’t learn anything except the Holocaust, with an emphasis on the suffering of homosexuals, and that the atomic bomb was bad.


16 posted on 06/10/2014 3:57:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

IIRC a simulator grenade is not the same thing as an inert or toy grenade. A simulator grenade has a charge that explodes and is akin to a giant fire cracker.


17 posted on 06/10/2014 3:57:52 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: luvbach1

If I mentioned this to my teenagers, they’d be all over the place in a week. Buncha firebugs. My 17-year-old doused his forearms in rubbing alcohol and lit it.


18 posted on 06/10/2014 3:59:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: TexasGator
Should read the article before posting ...

Sorry, I'm a stickler for tradition.

19 posted on 06/10/2014 4:02:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

A grenade simulator is a pryotechnic device which looks and sounds like a giant firecracker. It is used in training exercises to simulate combat explosions. A training grenade is essentially an inert grenade with the explosive charge removed. The fuse mechanism remains so that it activates in the same manner in order to give soldiers a sense of timing in pulling the pin, releasing the spoon, cooking off and throwing. These are typically used at the grenade range prior to using live grenades.


20 posted on 06/10/2014 4:04:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: nickcarraway

I hope that the mother employs a good attorney and sues the pants off of these idiots.


21 posted on 06/10/2014 4:09:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

bttt


22 posted on 06/10/2014 4:10:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: nickcarraway

had one in my bug out bag.

that should keep the heads down for about an hour.

$5 bucks at Sportsmanguild.com

It sank in my boating accident.


23 posted on 06/10/2014 4:11:20 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: TADSLOS

Sure doesn’t sound like a “huge” firecracker. Maybe a little pop. That’s it. I can’t imagine getting hurt except maybe putting it in your mouth or the open end up to your eye.

So not very dangerous except with young school age children, which in this case qualifies.

But really no worst than a black cat. Really smaller than that. Just a little pop and a little smoke. Not great for a classroom though but it’s not a destructive device so I am not sure that it is against the law to own one (somebody smarter than me may say different).


24 posted on 06/10/2014 4:11:36 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: trisham

“I hope that the mother employs a good attorney and sues the pants off of these idiots.”

The mother is the idiot for allowing a possibly dangerous device into the hands of children.


25 posted on 06/10/2014 4:12:20 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: outofsalt

I bet these administrators’ heads would explode if a kid brought in candy cigarettes.

Candy joint OTOH would of course be OK.


26 posted on 06/10/2014 4:16:48 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: TexasGator

I disagree, but feel free to hide under your desk.


27 posted on 06/10/2014 4:17:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TexasGator; trisham
allowing a possibly dangerous device into the hands of children

Like a pencil, a bicycle, a car, a scooter, a knife, a fork, a ball, a rock ...

You're the one who called the cops the last time, right?

28 posted on 06/10/2014 4:17:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: TexasGator
"The mother is the idiot for allowing a possibly dangerous device into the hands of child" Just how dangerous? Enquiring minds want to know. TC
29 posted on 06/10/2014 4:17:40 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Tax-chick

LOL, I appreciate your point, but that really wasn’t a great example.

Maybe if it was a FRIEND of your 17 year old...

LOL...


30 posted on 06/10/2014 4:17:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

OH, yeah, right, it was his friend. The one I don’t like!


31 posted on 06/10/2014 4:19:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
A simulator grenade has a charge that explodes and is akin to a giant fire cracker.

Indeed. Wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

32 posted on 06/10/2014 4:22:01 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: nickcarraway

Read the article and NOWHERE does an official state that the device was indeed an explosive. If it is not an explosive then none of the charges are valid. Most devices such as this INDICATE they are trainers/simulators etc.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 4:23:35 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Tax-chick

:)


34 posted on 06/10/2014 4:24:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“So, what explosive did she have in her possession that would warrant charges of risk of injury to a minor, reckless endangerment and illegal possession of an explosive?

Inquiring minds want to know. “

In the new safer world you don’t actually have to have done something to be charged, it’s the thought that counts.


35 posted on 06/10/2014 4:26:05 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: DariusBane

Yeah, it’s just a small blasting cap mechanically fired when the spoon is released. Just enough energy to set off the main charge after a few seconds of fuse burn.


36 posted on 06/10/2014 4:26:36 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: trisham

A shoe, a staircase, a wall, a roof, a tree, a sidewalk, a sheet of paper ...

After all this, though, we’ve had no broken bones (other than my toes, totally my own fault), and one row of stitches, unfortunately right down the center of Frank’s forehead. (The wall.) Tom had an Urgent Care visit for a bicycle wreck, but his arm was only wrenched and bruised, not broken. He was able to do the Mile Swim a few days later.


37 posted on 06/10/2014 4:28:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

State Police say simulator grenades can combust and cause injuries within a 20-foot radius.


38 posted on 06/10/2014 4:30:21 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Tax-chick

grin


39 posted on 06/10/2014 4:32:06 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi or Atty General Holder, who brought more guns to Mexico?)
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To: Tax-chick

One of my sisters walked under a teeter-totter when she was a child, and it came down on her head. Ouch! Only one of my siblings ever suffered a broken bone, and she was hit by a car.

Childhood is only safe for the young. No adult would survive it.


40 posted on 06/10/2014 4:32:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NonValueAdded

;-)


41 posted on 06/10/2014 4:32:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: nickcarraway

My first toy was a hand grenade. Dad told me it was a baseball.

“Now, Son, I’ll pull this piece of wire out of your baseball and throw you it to you. Remember, look it into your glove!”

“OK Dad!”

He didn’t know I’d put superglue on it. Yeah, show me the old windup, Dad.


42 posted on 06/10/2014 4:33:07 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: trisham

Most adults who aren’t under the influence of something are smart enough not to jump off the stair ledge because their brother told them they could fly.


43 posted on 06/10/2014 4:33:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When the truth finally dawns, it dawns in fire!)
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To: Tax-chick

At the age of three, I tried to jump out of a second story window at my grandmother’s house because I thought I could fly. According to my elder sister, she saved my life, but she’s always the heroine in her stories. :)


44 posted on 06/10/2014 4:37:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway
This Connecticut mommy got what she deserved. She more than likely votes liberal.

People get the government they deserve.

45 posted on 06/10/2014 4:39:02 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: nickcarraway

These fools are beyond ridiculous. We know it’s a serious offense for a kid to point his finger in school as if it were a gun.

Someone else mentioned a plastic Halloween costume grenade... I guarantee you if some kid showed up with one of those the fools would go just as ballistic as they have in this case. Might even arrest his mom for that, as well.

Honestly, I think kids should push this issue to the max to reveal just what a bunch of idiotic a$$holes are running our schools; i.e., kids should do the finger gun thing, yes, but also pretend to be throwing grenades, firing artillery, etc., at classmates and teachers.

Maybe even wave around an imaginary cowboy hat like Slim Pickens riding an H-bomb, running straight at the principal while you’re doing it, screaming ‘YEE-HAW’ at the top of your lungs as you close in on him. Would that be a more serious offense than a finger-gun? Seems to me it would have to be... So the yo-yo’s will have to get together with the nation’s top law professors to figure out exactly what should be the hierarchy of punishments for a whole range of politically incorrect make believe by eight-year olds.


46 posted on 06/10/2014 4:40:39 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

” Just how dangerous? Enquiring minds want to know. TC “

Since the mother didn’t know, she is an idiot for allowing children to access it.


47 posted on 06/10/2014 4:40:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“Read the article and NOWHERE does an official state that the device was indeed an explosive. If it is not an explosive then none of the charges are valid. Most devices such as this INDICATE they are trainers/simulators etc.”

Your lack of expertise in military grenades is showing.


48 posted on 06/10/2014 4:41:55 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: nickcarraway

“After you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.”


49 posted on 06/10/2014 4:42:40 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Tax-chick

“You’re the one who called the cops the last time, right?”

Your the one that doesn’t inspect the weapon when you are told ‘don’t worry, it’s not loaded ....”.


50 posted on 06/10/2014 4:42:55 PM PDT by TexasGator
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