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Miami Heatís dream is coming to a crashing halt
Miami Herald ^ | 6/13/14 | Greg Cote

Posted on 06/13/2014 7:53:28 AM PDT by laotzu

The Heat looks like a team out of answers, and worse, out of belief. The Heat looks like a team out of hope, and just about out of time.

Miami’s dream of a third straight NBA championship is expiring, and it is not doing so nobly, but rather wrapped in something uncomfortably close to embarrassment. This is not ending as much as it is crashing with the sound of something broken. Something shattering.

You heard booing in the downtown bayside arena Thursday night as the Heat was crushed 107-86 in a Game 4 Finals loss that put the Spurs in 3-1 command heading back to San Antonio.

A two-time defending champion chasing a three-peat, booed by its own fans, in its own building, in an NBA Finals. The booing was neither sustained nor loud, but you heard it, and it was a jarring sound, like heckling in church.

Miami must now make history to win this series and keep its budding dynasty intact. No team in league history has overcome a 3-1 Finals deficit to win. None. Not once. And the Heat must now win three games in a row – two in San Antonio – against a Spurs team that just dominated Miami at home for a second straight game.

Boxing champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., who sat courtside, reportedly lost $2.6 million on Thursday night by betting on Miami to win.

“They smashed us,” said LeBron James.

“Whipped our butt,” said Dwyane Wade.

And it was too obvious to ignore that James came here from Cleveland to get away from the very situation that enveloped him Thursday night:

Being a superstar alone.

Having no help.

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1 posted on 06/13/2014 7:53:28 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Three more games left. Plenty of chances to come back ...

Although I have not yet seen any team winning a 7 game NBA finals being down 3-1.

But hey, history can be made....


2 posted on 06/13/2014 7:57:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: laotzu

Last year, the Spurs tried to play Miami’s game: pushing all the focus on Duncan. This year, it’s all about the teamwork that got them here. I love it when my gut feeling is better than the official predictions.


3 posted on 06/13/2014 7:59:03 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: laotzu
Boxing champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., who sat courtside, reportedly lost $2.6 million on Thursday night by betting on Miami to win.

What an idiot. He must have placed that bet before Game 3.

4 posted on 06/13/2014 8:01:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Three more games left. Plenty of chances to come back ...

I suppose the Heat theoretically have a chance. But after the way they had their asses handed to them by the Spurs these past two games it's clear they are being outcoached, outhustled & outplayed by a much better T-E-A-M.

5 posted on 06/13/2014 8:04:53 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its over.

Even if the Heat win game 5 it’s over.

The Spurs team that emphasizes ‘team’ basketball with one of the greatest coach in Pop and having dominated and put on a clinic in 3 out of the 4 games and wanted Miami again for revenge from last year where they were seconds away from a championship are not going to lose 3 straight.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 8:05:46 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: laotzu
"Boxing champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., who sat courtside, reportedly lost $2.6 million on Thursday night by betting on Miami to win."

This is one of the reasons why spectacularly successful atheletes end up broke by the time they are 40-45 despite earning millions during their career. In the boxing world Mike Tyson comes to mind.

7 posted on 06/13/2014 8:07:06 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: laotzu

My favorite sport is College Backetball. My least favorite is the NBA. I cannot understand why anyone would pay to watch an NBA game.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 8:09:51 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Doesn’t hurt to be able to shoot the lights out.

San Antonio is a better shooting team. They are also a better defensive team.

Give Lebron his 30 and shut down the rest.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 8:11:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Reagan√úberAlles
Some say the only reason the Spurs are about to win yet another championship is because they cheated the Suns a decade ago.

Others: “They smashed us,” said LeBron James. “Whipped our butt,” said Dwyane Wade.

Who should we believe?

10 posted on 06/13/2014 8:11:39 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu


"I'm LeBron, Baby. I got game!" - Barack Hussein Obama, Mmm...mmm...mmm!
11 posted on 06/13/2014 8:12:27 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Responsibility2nd
What an idiot.

And a coward. He could have silenced all critics by simply signing to fight Manny Pacquiao. All his talk would have been ignored if he would have put his ass on the line.
But he knows he would lose so he's been ducking Manny relentlessly and making excuse after excuse. He'll only fight Manny after Manny is past his prime if at all.

12 posted on 06/13/2014 8:13:39 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: laotzu

LeBron is quitting on Miami like he quit on the Cavs in his last game there.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 8:14:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cowboy Bob
I cannot understand why anyone would pay to watch an NBA game.

Because not everyone's team sucks.

14 posted on 06/13/2014 8:14:22 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Happy for Duncan.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 8:16:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: laotzu
Because not everyone's team sucks.

It's not the teams. It's the game. NBA ball differs vastly from the college game. Slam dunks should be a 1 point score. Either that or the rim should be at 12 feet. The personality disorders that go on display by overgrown adolescents before, during and after the games are cringe worthy at the very least. I could go on but if you love the NBA experience, you'll still be unconvinced.

16 posted on 06/13/2014 8:18:41 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: dfwgator
“LeBron is quitting on Miami like he quit on the Cavs in his last game there.”

LeBron had 19 points in the 3rd quarter of last night's game, when the Heat were down by 20. He needs some help from Wade, Bosh, and others to win another game in this series. I'm not a big fan of LeBron’s, but he didn't quit last night until it was clear, with about 6 minutes left, that he wasn't getting enough out of his teammates to close the gap.

Having said that, I take considerable pleasure from watching an “old school” team like the Spurs whip up on a flashy “dream team.”

17 posted on 06/13/2014 8:24:52 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I love college basketball but the past few years it has been horrible. Most of the kids can’t score and its not because of great defenses around the country, its a lack of fundamentals. The NBA has drastically improved over the years and that’s a fact and the games have typically been exciting for the most part in the playoffs. Yes they are super athletes that can dunk over one another but if you don’t have fundamentals in the NBA then you are either sitting on the bench most of the time or not playing in the league at all. People tend to half a nostalgic view of the NBA in the 80’s and mid 90’s but the past few seasons are not far behind saved for the weakeness of the Eastern Conference


18 posted on 06/13/2014 8:35:52 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
if you love the NBA experience, you'll still be unconvinced

Fair enough. I grew up in San Antonio, and watched the ABA Spurs play in Hemisphere Arena.

It is not so much that I love the NBA experience, but heh, the Spurs make the playoffs(or better) every damn year.

Except for the one season before we fired that freak Rodman, the Spurs have always been low key, gentlemanly ball players.

19 posted on 06/13/2014 8:36:11 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of thugs . . .


20 posted on 06/13/2014 9:03:17 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: laotzu
The NBA is entertainment, it is not sport. While there are athletes on the court, I get a little tired of the dunk competitions. When did the NBA eliminate the "traveling" violation? A dunk should count for no more than one point!

What is the purpose of the season when more than half the teams (16/30) get into the playoffs?

And don't get me going about the lottery picks in the draft...

21 posted on 06/13/2014 9:05:09 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I did not watch the game last night (commented on FR instead), but I had a growing anxiety as my husband explained it to me this morning. Maybe I have become too politically paranoid, but how come the NBA has not been infected with the accusation of racism?

A white coach demanding total cooperation with his mostly black players. They barely speak. They differ to him completely. They aren’t allowed to be colorful after a successful shot. Everyone has to pull their weight; no slacking.

Pure meritocracy must be stopped, right, isn’t that how they want it. Where is their openly gay player? Isn’t it time a black man to coach their team? How come they aren’t using their time in the limelight to voice grievances against white people, heterosexuals, people who can afford tickets, teams from red states.

Really, it is so pure. I do really admire Popovich and his team. Go Spurs!


22 posted on 06/13/2014 9:10:42 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

My husband also emphasized to me, that they passed a lot, a strategy to make each player contribute rather than have just one star making all the points. Ego is subsumed for team cohesion and advancement.

He also said they were focused, disciplined and humbled, not wanting to explain, predict or crow after the game. They are in the zone until the last decisive game.

Bravo!


23 posted on 06/13/2014 9:14:06 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
But he knows he would lose so he's been ducking Manny relentlessly and making excuse after excuse. He'll only fight Manny after Manny is past his prime if at all.

Did you ever stop to consider that by not fighting Manny Floyd is allowing Manny to pretend that he actually had a chance of beating him?

24 posted on 06/13/2014 9:21:04 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: lulu16
Watch San Diego State's Kawhi Leonard stick the final dagger into the heat. Just a monster play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxm78ihx4pk

25 posted on 06/13/2014 9:21:57 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: Cowboy Bob
The NBA is entertainment, it is not sport.

If there are cheerleaders, then it is a sport.

26 posted on 06/13/2014 9:24:39 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Kozy

Thank-you. I shall also has it to my husband.


27 posted on 06/13/2014 9:25:54 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: laotzu
And it was too obvious to ignore that James came here from Cleveland to get away from the very situation that enveloped him Thursday night:

What situation - losing in the NBA Finals against a better team? He's been to the Finals every years he's been with the Heat - if San Antonio does what they should do, LeBron will be 2-2 in the Finals over the last 4 yrs. There are teams that haven't been to the Finals in decades, and some that have never made it. There's no team out there guaranteeing James something better.

The Heat do need to rebuild around James - Dwayne Wade looks old, Ray Allen is old, Chris Bosh doesn't play up to his hype. But Pat Riley is a man you want rebuilding your team, and James knows it.
28 posted on 06/13/2014 9:27:35 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: lulu16

One extremely underrated four-letter word is part of why the Spurs exemplify a pure aspect of the game. The word is “pass”.

As LeBron James admitted: “They put you in positions no other team in the League does.” His reference was how the Spurs passed the ball to the weak side so quickly as part of a precise offensive set that the Heat did not get into the correct defensive position.

Two words explain how that happened: “Greg Popovich”. He is widely regarded as the best coach of grown men on the planet for a reason. He watched the first two games of the series. He saw his Spurs lose home court advantage and how they could have been down 0-2 but for LeBron James cramping amidst arena air-conditioning failures. He then did what great coaches do – make adjustments. “Pop” inserted Boris Diaw into the starting lineup because of his passing skills. Then Pop reconfigured some plays so that in essence, as LeBron also admitted, the Spurs were transformed into having “4 players with point guard passing skills.”


29 posted on 06/13/2014 9:32:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: laotzu

It’s true. What the Spurs have been able to do out of little San Antonio is amazing. It’s like Buffalo being in the hunt year after year in football.

The only thing I can think of that’s close is maybe Oakland in baseball. One of the lowest payrolls in the MLB, in a festering toilet of a city, and all they do is make the playoffs every year.


30 posted on 06/13/2014 9:35:50 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: laotzu

Here’s something people tend to overlook about the Spurs as a T-E-A-M — LOYALTY and COHESION.

Their 3 top players have been there for 10 years or more — Duncan, Parker and Ginobilli.

For 17 years Tim Duncan has worked at his craft. After this game, Duncan now has more double-doubles than anyone in the history of the game, passing Magic Johnson. And he passed Kareem Abdul Jabbar for most minutes played in NBA playoff history.

Coach Popovich preaches playing the game the right way and being consistent in doing it. And the team’s owners support him all the way. This is one well run organization.


31 posted on 06/13/2014 9:36:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: lulu16

“A white coach demanding total cooperation with his mostly black players. They barely speak. They differ to him completely.”

I read an article which differs somewhat from this. During timeouts when Pop is strategizing the next play, he doesn’t bark commands. Instead he asks questions, and the answers he gets from the players determine what they’ll do.

Also, Pop is an ex-military intelligence officer, so he uses info to plan his battles.


32 posted on 06/13/2014 10:02:34 AM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: laotzu
the Spurs have always been low key, gentlemanly ball players.

Couldn't agree more. Tim Duncan impresses me. He's a low key, articulate gentleman. And opposed to a great many other players in the league, has near perfect diction. Though not a Spur, David Robinson is another person cut from the same cloth.

33 posted on 06/13/2014 10:12:55 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: Bigtigermike
its a lack of fundamentals.

Indeed. MLB has been plagued with this phenomenon for decades. Can you say Bill Buckner?
Who the heck taught him to field a ground ball that way? When I was a kid, my dear departed father (who played with the Brooklyn Dodgers for about a week) used to drill me in the back yard on proper fielding techniques.

He was most disdainful (to put it mildly) when Buckner booted that ball. I have seen many instances like it since. The other major sports are no different...except for NHL hockey. It seems you simply don't make the big show there without a grasp on fundamentals.

Basketball? It would seem that countless hours spent on a city or playground asphalt court is considered appropriate training for a college and a Big League career.

34 posted on 06/13/2014 10:20:17 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Did you ever stop to consider that by not fighting Manny Floyd is allowing Manny to pretend that he actually had a chance of beating him?

Yes. But then I rejected the premise because if they had fought when they first had the opportunity, Manny would have beaten the snot out of Floyd. Yes...my opinion...but I'm confident I am not wrong.

35 posted on 06/13/2014 10:23:03 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Though not a Spur, David Robinson is another person cut from the same cloth.

Robinson is a retired Spur and former team mate of Tim Duncan's.
36 posted on 06/13/2014 10:34:37 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: laotzu

Ha ha haaaa that’s a Sperns fan for ya.

You did have it handed to you in ‘07 by Donnelly the cheating ref and the Sperns daddy, Commissioner Spern.., I mean Stern. Plus the one during the strike year is tainted too. But if you need those two to feel good well...go right ahead

You were worried though.

Congrats on them already winning this championship this year.


37 posted on 06/13/2014 10:38:40 AM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Three games left ONLY if they win. One/one/one, in a sense doesn’t equal three, strangely enough.


38 posted on 06/13/2014 10:49:45 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Robinson is a retired Spur and former team mate of Tim Duncan's.

See how much attention I pay to the NBA?

39 posted on 06/13/2014 10:54:14 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles
Whoa! We are talking basketball here. Who tore the string off of your tampon?

You'll never get me into bed with that kind of hygiene.

40 posted on 06/13/2014 12:32:36 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Congrats on winning the 2014 NBA title


41 posted on 06/13/2014 12:57:00 PM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

We are still one win away, but; thank you. That was very gracious.


42 posted on 06/13/2014 1:02:40 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yes. But then I rejected the premise because if they had fought when they first had the opportunity, Manny would have beaten the snot out of Floyd.

Did Manny beat the snot out of Juan Manuel Marquez? From what I remember they had a few close decisions then Marquez knocked Pacquiao out cold. This is the Mayweather-Marquez fight after a 21-month layoff. Even with ring rust it's like a pro fighting an amateur. What makes you think Pacquiao would fare any better?

Mayweather's boxing lesson

43 posted on 06/13/2014 2:09:32 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: laotzu

No, congrats, you won, it’s over. Don’t even watch the next game.

The SPURS ARE 2014 NBA CHAMPIONS RIGHT NOW IT’S OVER!!!

They cannot lose.LOL


44 posted on 06/13/2014 2:36:14 PM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles
..it’s over..the next game

Towel boy, you are going to have to start making some sense.

No grace. No grace at all.

45 posted on 06/13/2014 2:41:36 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu
I'm not sure why they are still playing basketball anymore seeing as how the most important mission of the NBA is removing racist Americans from within our country.

I would think that they would be helping FEMA to set up reeducation camps and constructing gallows for those determined to be too far gone...

46 posted on 06/13/2014 2:43:42 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles
P.S. I appreciate your love for the game(and big sweaty men). I will send you a big ole ping when the Spurs win. Go Spurs!!


47 posted on 06/13/2014 2:48:24 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Indeed. MLB has been plagued with this phenomenon for decades. Can you say Bill Buckner?”

Billy Buckner letting the ball go through the wickets in 1986 WS on bad pins after playing in the majors since 1969 is your example of coming up through the minor leagues with no fundamentals?

The sports with super popular free minor leagues are the ones that produce the prancing thuggish jerks for the pros. Baseball minor leagues generally weed out the jerkwads, you are not a superstar.

FReegards


48 posted on 06/13/2014 3:04:33 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: laotzu

Can’t wait to see these guys lose. I never liked their “spend to win” tactics. And the way James gave Jordan “the look” earlier in the playoffs (or was it in the regular season?) made me dislike him all the more. He will never be on the same level as Jordan.


49 posted on 06/13/2014 3:09:40 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: laotzu

The Spurs have won!! There is no way they can lose this series. Are you having doubts? Lol


50 posted on 06/13/2014 3:11:44 PM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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