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Weekly Garden Thread Volume 24 June 13, 2014
Free Republic | 6/13/2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 06/13/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

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Greetings from Missouri. A great sunny afternoon here in the 70s and low tonight in the 50s. Weather has been very cool and wet this week. So wet that I haven't been able to transplant anything.

I am still harvesting cherry tomatoes off of Mr. indoor tomato. Basil is ready to harvest again from Mr. 2010 plant in a pot. Lemons are still maturing.

Patio tomato has green tomatoes and peppers have some tiny ones starting. I have been pulling garlic. Some of the garlic did make nice bulbs after all. Some of the bulbs had to be dug out, because the area between stalk and the bulb appeared to be very soft and mushy.

Potatoes are doing well above ground, so we'll see what has happened below. I have lettuce ready to eat. The old spinach seeds didn't germinate, so I'll have to get some new seed to plant.

I have a sour dough bread developing - should be ready to bake at about suppertime. Staying home today. Once went out on Friday the 13th, a little red truck plowed into me while changing lanes. The unpleasant memory is what keeps me in - not really superstitous.

Hubby thought he planted cabbage, but instead he planted cabbage root, looks like a big radish and tastes the same. I made some cream of radish soup today. It was pretty good. Have several other recipes to try.

Hope everyone is doing well and having some good gardening experiences. Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 06/13/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Reddy; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 12:36:21 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I have 5 tomato plants in pots, last year I did this and got a BUMPER Crop of Tomato LEAVES but no tomatoes. What do I need to do different this year?


3 posted on 06/13/2014 12:38:53 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: greeneyes

We had tremendous rain this past week. 3.5 inches in about an hour. This caused major erosion in our gravel driveway and pummeled the peppers in the garden but didn’t break any.

I picked a couple dozen peppers and will stuff some and dry some this weekend.

Wife’s Garden Walk was last Saturday. 43 people came to see what we have in the way of flowers, plants and veggies.

Folks from Arkansas are in our rental cabin. They’ve been touring the lake attractions and local restaurants.

We cleaned the pontoon boat today to get it ready for the summer boat season. Fun at last...


4 posted on 06/13/2014 12:42:17 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: greeneyes

North Idaho:

Strawberries producing. Blueberries producing. Raspberries filled with blooms.

Garlic is going crazy as are Walla Walla sweet onions.

Rhubarb - can’t get rid of it and on our third harvest.

All herbs doing well.

Have lots of green tomatoes and plant are growing crazy.

Have had mid 70’s to low 80’s with nights in the 50’s.

Very little rain. Thanks to sprinkler system and a great source of underground river in our area - no drought.


5 posted on 06/13/2014 12:44:44 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: greeneyes

My Fall 2013 garden got postponed to a Spring 2014 garden got postponed to this past weekend and I finally got just a few things planted. Four raised beds are now filled with sunflower, cantaloup, pumpkin and watermelon. And all of that hopefully will lead to an actual Fall 2014 garden. So, since I must be the brownest thumb on the planet, any and all advice for those four plants is appreciated. The grasshoppers are horrible here this year, been thinking I’ll need to build some kind of netted frame to put over my planters to keep everything from being eaten up. I guess the sunflowers will have to fend for themselves.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 12:44:48 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: greeneyes

Family illness has kept me from doing much in the garden. Please say a prayer for my brother.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 12:47:17 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Roos_Girl

Oh, I should add that in our small orchard area we harvested our first peaches off one of our tiny trees. Guess we should have pulled a bunch off before they matured because we had maybe 5 lbs of golfball size fruit. Very good flavor and juiciness though.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 12:47:38 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: US Navy Vet

Generally, leaves and no produce on plants means you have bountiful nitrogen but not enough of the other nutrients needed for flowering and fruit.

15-30-15 is a good balance for blooms/fruits. Also check your local nursery/store for some fertilizer containing trace nutrients.

Bone Meal, Banana peels, crushed eggshells, and epsom salts can also be used for slow release organic amendments to help tomatoes and melons etc.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 12:51:52 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: heartwood

Prayers Up for you and your loved one.


10 posted on 06/13/2014 12:53:10 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I would guess use fertilizer with less nitrogen and more potash and phosphate. And make sure you sucker the tomato plants.


11 posted on 06/13/2014 12:53:23 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

How do you “sucker” Tomatoes?


12 posted on 06/13/2014 12:54:16 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: greeneyes

It is pouring here in S. FL...”Rain Forest” kind of pouring.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 12:55:45 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I lost track of all the rain we got, but we added at least another 1000 gallons to the swimming pool reserve irrigation and all the rain barrels are full and divering through the overflow.

I really think we’ll have enough to get throught the dog days of summer now.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 12:56:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: US Navy Vet

http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/tomato/tomato-plant-suckers.htm


15 posted on 06/13/2014 12:56:18 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: illiac

Sounds like you are having a great year so far. We have a cold hardy kiwi that is finally bearing fruit. It has taken 4 tries to get a male kiwi to survive. He is tiny compared to the female vines, but maybe we’ll actually get to taste the fruit this year.


16 posted on 06/13/2014 12:58:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I planted 32 tomato plants and have lost three of them for some reason. The three are in different rows and the plants on each side in the same row are thriving. I can’t think of a reason why? I guess they were not healthy when planted. I hope I don’t lose any more!

I staked each tomato plant yesterday, some were growing fast and starting to lean over. My new drip irrigation and fertilizing injection system seems to be working great so far.

I went to the VA Clinic Monday for my first shot of B-12. Will see if I feel any difference. I asked my wife if she would give me the monthly shot and she said she would. She has been giving herself weekly allergy shots for a few years.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 1:00:00 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: greeneyes

My pepper plants continue their slow growth but have noticed a few blooms on the Anaheims and some on the Cubanelles. Replacement ‘maters are taking their sweet time too. Vine cukes are doing well got plenty of blooms so far. Sweet and cinnamon basil starting to take off now and benefited from some rain the other day. Yellow wax beans -— meh-—much better success growing them up north years ago. Gonna hit them all with another round of newly cooked compost but wait until next week so it breaks down a little bit more in the hot sun.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 1:00:45 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes
Hello from Southern California!!

We have annual June gloom right now so the gardens here are beautiful. I get to spy on what everyone is planting and what is blooming when I walk my dogs.

I've got a yellow protea that is finally blooming -- after I planted it 10 years ago!! (will post photo, it's somewhere in my album at the moment and I have to hunt for it).

I also planted some California poppies about two months ago and they are taking over my back and side flower beds -- and I keep reading that they don't transplant well.

I also planted lantana - every color I could find because once the searing hot winds start at the end of July, it is one of the few things that will keep blooming, that an bougainvillea.

19 posted on 06/13/2014 1:03:31 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: Roos_Girl

To make a quick frame for my raised 4x4 beds, I used 18 inch rebar stakes at the corners. Placed 2 10 foot pvc plastic pipe over the rebar diagonally so that they cross in the middle of the bed. Tied the pipes together with fishing line.

Cover with net and fasten however you want. I have lots of split wood, so I just used a bunch of logs to anchor the net down.


20 posted on 06/13/2014 1:04:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Bon of Babble

I also planted FOUR of the hottest peppers I could find - two habaneros, one ghost and one scorpion. I’m babying them right now, habaneros grow fine around here, I’ll have to wait and see on the ghost and scorpion.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 1:04:31 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: US Navy Vet
How do you “sucker” Tomatoes?

If I'm not mistaken I think the indeterminate varieties are better for 'suckering' but the determinates ( e.g. heirlooms) should not be suckered.

22 posted on 06/13/2014 1:04:35 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: left that other site

Some people are jealous, since they have had several years of drought.


23 posted on 06/13/2014 1:06:26 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Isn’t one of the Scorpion peppers from India like the hottest in Scovil heat units? Do you actually eat those too?
I like it hot but anything over habanero heat level is out of my league.


24 posted on 06/13/2014 1:09:09 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The tomatoes are a mystery, unless as you said they were just deficient to begin with.

I have a friend that gets the B12 shots, and she says they help a lot. IIRC it may take several before you feel the full effect.


25 posted on 06/13/2014 1:09:22 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tflabo

I have several beds left to plant. Have been holding off to see if we get enough water stored before planting them. Also, need warm, dryer weather for things like sunflowers etc.


26 posted on 06/13/2014 1:12:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

What will you plant in those beds? Your MO. has had some rains ay?


27 posted on 06/13/2014 1:14:25 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Bon of Babble

Thanks for the pictures. Those are beautiful flowers.


28 posted on 06/13/2014 1:17:00 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; All

THanks for the thread bump!

Lots of recent rains. Some things are growing, and some are struggling. I truly will be interested to see how it all turns out!

I hope everyone’s efforts are paying off better than mine! LOL!

Blessings to all this day!


29 posted on 06/13/2014 1:17:32 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Bon of Babble
Found it: Here are two photos of the protea I waited 10 years for it to bloom. It looks like an octopus!


30 posted on 06/13/2014 1:18:42 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: tflabo

Yes on the scorpion, ditto for the ghost — I grow them for fun.

Don’t know if I’ll have any luck, my son tells me that they needs a more tropical environment with lots of humidity (our air is very dry), but you never know. I’ve grown all kinds of things here that the experts said “don’t grow here.”


31 posted on 06/13/2014 1:20:49 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: tflabo

Yes we have had some rains. Once the garlic is pulled, I’ll plant some peanuts and beans. Still have a couple of corn seeds to try out.

Will be planting some more spinach, lettuce, and tomatoes. Amaranth and Sunflowers.


32 posted on 06/13/2014 1:20:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Sorry that work (too much work) had kept me from posting. What I picked this week here in rainy Connecticut- Scapes!!

Made some into pesto and plan on grilling the rest on Sunday. Picked a big bowl of strawberries today and lettuce is everywhere. Spinach is about done. Still have some radishes and tons of arugula. Tried Dragon's Tongue arugula this year. Dark green frilly leaf with a purple center. Really cool looking. Can't wait till it's big enough to pick. And peas are starting. Munched a few snow peas right off the vine yesterday.

Life is good.

33 posted on 06/13/2014 1:23:32 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: TEXOKIE

Well, we all win some and lose some. C’est la vie.


34 posted on 06/13/2014 1:29:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I have been going through “good” culture shock. People here, about 20 miles north of Dallas, speak of how hot it is. The temp. was in “their” idea of “hot” low 90s yesterday and it is not hot - these people don’t know what hot is - add my Conroe usual humidity to the low 90s here and it would be HOT. This 90 temp. is a walk in the park here.

There is an empty space on this lot that is hidden from public view where a container garden could be. There is a water table three feet down from the surface where the container garden could be and there is a lake within walking distance for water. Always have my prepper hat on when I go anywhere.

Maybe will go home to check my house/garden next Wednesday.


35 posted on 06/13/2014 1:31:32 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Roos_Girl

Oh, I should add that in our small orchard area we harvested our first peaches off one of our tiny trees.”

oH, MY favorite fruit. You must be in the South. We have a peach crop in MO about every other year and have to fight the deer, coons, and other vermin. Georgia peaches are the best. I bought a dozen last year and had them shipped from GA. Get this—$35 a dozen, but they were delicious. You can’t find GA peaches in stores here—very sad.


36 posted on 06/13/2014 1:35:07 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Very interesting. I love yellow flowers of all types.


37 posted on 06/13/2014 1:36:45 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: KosmicKitty

Nice pictures-good looking garlic. Sounds like a good return so far on the gardening efforts.


38 posted on 06/13/2014 1:44:34 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Your country is probably overun with squirrels and missing the President of your home country.


39 posted on 06/13/2014 1:47:45 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I’d say every other year is great for Mo. The cold spring snaps often kill the buds on the peach trees here.


40 posted on 06/13/2014 1:49:07 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Sounds like your garden is going well.

I never even realized that it was Friday 13th. Duh!


41 posted on 06/13/2014 1:54:41 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Looking for a good tag line.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I bet touring the lake by boat would be great.

I have only seen the lake from the dam, and the overlook above the dam.


42 posted on 06/13/2014 1:57:38 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Looking for a good tag line.)
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To: rightly_dividing
Big cruisers are becoming more common on Lake the Ozarks. They can throw big wakes and these can be dangerous. There are also lots of jet skis and these buzzing insects are a pain.
Taking a lake tour requires your head on a swivel...
43 posted on 06/13/2014 2:01:01 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: greeneyes

Not much progress. Sweet potatoes went in last week, but sudden cool weather all week has them languishing. Lots of weeds bit the big one; then today it shot to 85. These tem swings are abrupt, instead of gradual, so plants...and us...have no time to adapt.

Yesterday I processed 3 of our chicks: 64 days old, and the two in the freezer both weighed in at 7-3/4 pounds, fully dressed. The third was pretty much the same, but went into the roasting pan without being weighed 4, more “the runts”, to go.

Have to replant my carrots; only 4 out of the entire row made it.

We will—or the birds will—get strawberries before next Friday.


44 posted on 06/13/2014 2:01:23 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Marcella
Maybe will go home to check my house/garden next Wednesday.

So, basically, you've eloped?

45 posted on 06/13/2014 2:07:26 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: rightly_dividing

How goes it with you and your wife? Found any low fat/carb recipes you like?


46 posted on 06/13/2014 2:07:59 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I didn’t realize they could get that big in just a couple of months time more or less.


47 posted on 06/13/2014 2:09:29 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We are sticking good to the no-food diet. No real recipes, other than one than one for Zucchini noodle dinner that was posted on the old thread a few days ago, and we are going to try this weekend.

Steamed veggies are the main course for most meal. I throw brocolli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, baby carrots, or whatever strikes me to, all of the above, or any combination.

Grilled chicken breast marinated different ways for variety, or other very lean meats, always grilled.

Fruit makes up some meals and most snacks, pickles make great snacks too. My lunch today was half a banana, and about a cup of refrigerator pickles we made and forgot about some time ago.

Just eating very light, I would be scared to figure calories! After 6 weeks, the Dr. may adjust what I can have, maybe not.

Loosing weight is mental, once you have it in your mind, the rest is not too hard.


48 posted on 06/13/2014 2:26:30 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Looking for a good tag line.)
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To: US Navy Vet

If your summer stayed above 90 degrees, then that’s likely the reason. Tomatoes don’t like the heat so won’t produce. That’s the problem I have every year. Nice beautiful green lush plants but little to no fruit. What varieties are you growing? The only reliable tomato here is Yellow Pear which is way down the list for taste but volunteers all over the place so I’ll take what I can. Even Improved Porters, which were created for the Texas heat, have produced a big fat zero. The other old heirlooms don’t like our summers either. I have 7-8 heirloom varieties this year and there are a few green fruit on a couple but they’ve been well shaded which has helped. Yes, tomatoes need the sun but they need some relief from the heat.


49 posted on 06/13/2014 2:29:30 PM PDT by bgill
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To: US Navy Vet

There’s always a debate over whether to sucker or not so it’s up to you whether you want to or not. It’s basically pinching off the lower stems to give the plant a more upward growth on the main stem rather than using energy for the bushiness and to keep them from drooping into the dirt. Also, pinch the new little stems/branches that start between the main stem and the major side stems/branches. That may or may not make sense. IOW, you have the main stem and then branches that come off it. In the “Y” where the branches grow out of the main stem little new branches start to grow. Those are the suckers meaning they suck the nutrients from the plant. The claim is determinates need it done but not heirlooms. I’ve never known anyone to do it but whatever rocks your boat.


50 posted on 06/13/2014 2:50:16 PM PDT by bgill
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