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Netherlands exact revenge, crush defending World Cup champion Spain 5-1 (Footbol Caucus)
FOX SPORTS ^ | 06/13/2014 | Jamie Trecker

Posted on 06/13/2014 2:21:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Netherlands earned sweet revenge on Spain on Friday at the Fonte Nova in Salvador, hammering Spain 5-1 to put an emphatic coda on their loss in the 2010 World Cup finals.

Robin van Persie and Arjen Robben both scored twice, and Stefan de Vrij added one to pace the Netherlands after an early and controversial penalty had staked Spain an early lead. And believe it or not, the Dutch could have had a few more. It was the heaviest loss ever suffered by a reigning champion, and it leaves Spain staring at an early exit.

Spain hadn't lost in a Cup match in such a shambolic fashion since 1950 -- fittingly enough, that was against hosts Brazil.

This was the first group stage meeting between the previous World Cup's finalists in history, a seemingly dry fact belied by the rancor of that game. Then, Spain needed extra time to down a Dutch side that should have been reduced to ten men after Nigel de Jong infamously delivered a karate kick to Xabi Alonso's midsection in Johannesburg, South Africa. That was a dirty show from Holland, and no one had forgot it; the question coming in was whether or not they could overcome that bitter history.

Indeed, they could.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: netherlands; notarealsport; spain; worldcup
This thread strictly for Soccer fans.
1 posted on 06/13/2014 2:21:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Spain lost their first World Cup game vs. Switzerland last time as well, not by that score though.

Reminds me of when Netherlands whipped Italy in the Euro 2008 but still only went to the semifinals.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 2:26:04 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: SeekAndFind
This thread strictly for Soccer fans.

LOL!
Ok, I'll slink away without my keekball comments...
(yeah, yeah ... great sport, non-stop action, super athletes, zzzzz...)

3 posted on 06/13/2014 2:28:01 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SeekAndFind

A beautiful game. I was amazed at the degree to which Spain collapsed. Going into this game many thought that Spain was the best team in the world, a few even called it the best team in history. Amazing match, felt sorry for the Spain fans. Wish Netherlands was a little less thuggish, they are good players but love to score a cheap shot, the yellow cards were justified.

The bar here was full with over a hundred of people all having an amazing time. Suited professionals on their lunch breaks and dreadlocked hippies, working class whites and immigrants from India/Africa/Mexico. Everyone had a blast, something about this sport just brings people together. This is going to be a good tournament.


4 posted on 06/13/2014 2:31:23 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: SeekAndFind

5-1 with 11 shots on goal and only 41% possession.
Nice to see Holland playing well ,like they used to.


5 posted on 06/13/2014 2:46:53 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. ........dot removal in progress.......)
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To: BurningOak
Spain is getting long in the tooth. They aren't among the favorites for the title. The defense they showed today was pathetic.

The cheap shot of the day was the head butt of the Netherland's Bruno Martins Indi by Diego Costa. Spain will probably lose Costa for a few games or perhaps the tournament.

6 posted on 06/13/2014 2:48:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

Hockey: same game only a smaller pitch and less players.

I’m not a fan of either but, I’d rather fall asleep to a hockey game than a Futbal match.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 2:51:27 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: BeadCounter
The goal differential from this game alone might relegate Spain to the "whipping class" in the knockout rounds with a possible 1st fixture opponent against Brazil.

The Brazil fans cheering today against Spain and Costa might not like the fact of taking on a pissed-off and embarrassed defending champion who will see a grand opportunity to rebound off the host country right after group play.

I would rather wait longer in the tourney to face Spain. Brazil did not look sharp as well and needed two big helpings of "assistance" to get two deciding goals. The weak placement of the other goal was courtesy of a slow goalie which Casillas certainly is not.
8 posted on 06/13/2014 2:52:35 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: BurningOak
Robben has been playing lights out the past several years with Bayern Munich and van Persie was heating up on the verge of a hot streak with United (After a long slow start) but was grounded due to an injury.

I think FIFA's rating system is out of whack because the Netherlands sure did not look like 15th to me.
9 posted on 06/13/2014 2:59:15 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Holland clearly wanted it more.

Let's see how Spain reacts to this defeat. Their next game will be very telling.

10 posted on 06/13/2014 3:00:20 PM PDT by matt1234 (Obama fled. People bled. (Iraq 2014.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Great game to watch. Far, far better than the opening game.


11 posted on 06/13/2014 3:02:48 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: BurningOak
The bar here was full with over a hundred of people all having an amazing time. Suited professionals on their lunch breaks and dreadlocked hippies, working class whites and immigrants from India/Africa/Mexico. Everyone had a blast ....

Just out of curiosity, which city and state?

12 posted on 06/13/2014 3:16:24 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“Hockey: same game only a smaller pitch and less players.”

the difference is that in hockey if you fake injury you are assessed a delay of game penalty, in soccer you are awarded a penalty kick


13 posted on 06/13/2014 3:20:59 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Josey Wales asks: How is it with stains ?)
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To: Reverend Wright

:: in hockey if you fake injury you are assessed a delay of game ::

And, remember, everybody else has a stick with which to teach you a lesson.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 3:25:49 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Silly question, but is the World Cup tournament single elimination? If Germany beats Portugal and the US beats Ghana, does the US have to play Portugal? Or do we go straight to playing Germany?


16 posted on 06/13/2014 3:37:47 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Personally I never understood how anyone can watch baseball, golf, or American “football”. 99% of the game is milling around, the actual game part of the game is like 3 minutes long, they just stretch it to four hours for commercials. I do not watch that stuff for the same reason I do not watch Curling. Cut out the standing around and give me the 3 minutes of actual gameplay.

I mean I understand American football/baseball as a school activity for kids, gets them away from the XBOX and whatnot, but an adult sport? Seems a little silly.

Hockey, soccer, basketball, NASCAR, atleast most of the game/race people are actually doing stuff.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 3:41:30 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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Yay for American shit, mutilating, played with hands called football?

Rest of the world is stupid, enjoying watching world’s best. Just don’t watch it if it bothers you.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 3:42:29 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: SeekAndFind

If there is a caucus would you please add me. Thanks.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 3:43:44 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: IronJack

It start out round robin with groups of four (32 teams total) where everyone plays everyone. The two top teams advance. Once there are 16 teams its single elimination.


20 posted on 06/13/2014 3:45:09 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: IronJack
Four team group play consist of each team playing every team in their respected group. The top two teams in each group goes onto the knockout stage (Self explanatory).

Ties in the group are decided by goal differential. In group play 3 points for a win, 1 point for tie, and 0 for a loss.
21 posted on 06/13/2014 3:48:42 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Finny

“Just out of curiosity, which city and state?”

Not where I live but Bend Oregon. Beautiful place, amazing nature and super friendly people.


22 posted on 06/13/2014 3:48:43 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak

, a few even called it the best team in history.

that has largely been true the last decade or so, but the Netherland has been a much better side than they have shown in major championships, infighting has a cost


23 posted on 06/13/2014 3:49:00 PM PDT by munin (MSNBC?)
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To: IronJack

No, round robin. Everyone in each group plays each other and the top 2 in each group advance to single elimination.


24 posted on 06/13/2014 3:50:33 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: munin

People are right they are a little long in the tooth... That said, one game is not a statistic. Netherlands is a great team and Spain was dominating for most of the first half, maybe they just had a lousy game, happens to everyone. They will almost certainly advance unless Netherlands loses one.


25 posted on 06/13/2014 3:57:47 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak
Thanks! I know that here in Southern California, a lot of sports bars with zillions of big screens are also attracting folks. I just haven't gone!

Went to a real soccer game once. It was as confusing for me to watch, score-wise, as bowling! {^)

26 posted on 06/13/2014 4:22:54 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d rather watch paint dry! Give me a 400 lb. defensive player smashing into a quarterback any day!


27 posted on 06/13/2014 4:51:21 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: El Cid

Me too, fuuuutball, the game of fruits and nuts. Perfect for Kaleeforneeuh!!!


28 posted on 06/13/2014 5:12:21 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are they running the games on tape delay? I’d like to see this one. I caught the end of the Chile Australia game. The socceroos put up a good fight. Their quick-strike offense had a lot of chances.


29 posted on 06/13/2014 5:23:53 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Are they running the games on tape delay?

ESPN is running extended highlights: some program with "Encore" in the title.

30 posted on 06/13/2014 7:31:05 PM PDT by matt1234 (Obama fled. People bled. (Iraq 2014.))
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To: rollo tomasi

http://eloratings.net/Netherlands.htm

One may see their recent results here, in fact every result they have had within reason.

ELO Ratings #5: http://eloratings.net/Netherlands.htm

ELO system is the same as what Chess Players have long been rated by.

If one draws Estonia and Japan, even in friendlies, I guess your rating might drop a little.

FIFA ratings for comparison: http://www.soccerway.com/teams/rankings/fifa/


Longest header in World Cup play since 1970 in regards to Van Persie’s first goal. That was a thing of beauty, most of the Dutch playing was in fact. They got away from that style for awhile.


31 posted on 06/13/2014 7:31:49 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Here is a fairly simple look at the World Cup groups, table-wise from a website that largely comes out of Holland (and England):

http://us.soccerway.com/international/world/world-cup/2014-brazil/group-stage/r16351/

Here is our group G table: http://us.soccerway.com/international/world/world-cup/2014-brazil/group-stage/group-g/g4841/

Discussions on our USA soccer team, http://forums.bigsoccer.com/forums/usa-men.131/

I don’t participate their but you might find some interesting reading.


32 posted on 06/13/2014 7:40:27 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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Did anyone say "Total Football"? I do see some people alluded to it, when the Dutch are on, they are great to watch.
33 posted on 06/13/2014 8:10:40 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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