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How Can I Get Rid Of An Email
6/16/2014 | MoseKnows

Posted on 06/16/2014 9:43:19 AM PDT by MosesKnows

How Do I Get Rid Of An Email?


I believed there was no sure way to eliminate an embarrassing Email or Internet posting.
However, according to some recent news reports the IRS has discovered a way to eliminate select Emails.


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KEYWORDS: email; rid
Is there an IE professional willing to explain to a layman like me how to eliminate an email so there is no way to retrieve it? Please.
1 posted on 06/16/2014 9:43:19 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

Never send it.


2 posted on 06/16/2014 9:43:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MosesKnows

Lois Lerner has the patent for that App................


3 posted on 06/16/2014 9:44:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: MosesKnows

The IRS is wondering the same thing.


4 posted on 06/16/2014 9:44:21 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: MosesKnows

Send it to Lois Lerner and it will immediately be deleted forever.


5 posted on 06/16/2014 9:47:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: MosesKnows

Step 1: Have to archiving system in place, which would get you fined in the private sector.

Step 2: Take the computer that sent the e-mails, and throw it into the fires of Mordor.

Step 3: Take the email server, and also throw in said fires of Mordor.

Step 4: Drive a van around the country, collecting all the computers that these emails were sent to, and the email servers at each establishment - and “Mordor” them.

Step 5: If any of the receiving computers were on gmail accounts, etc, send Google a letter telling them to “mordor” all their stuff.

Step 6: Write similar letter to NSA.

Step 7: Lie with a straight face.


7 posted on 06/16/2014 9:48:01 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: MosesKnows

Never really permanently deleted. If you use an ISP (comcast) or cloud (yahoo) they could retrieve them in the case of a criminal investigation or something. But would never retrieve/restore if you asked. In case of a corporate environment (exchange server) they are backed up and sent offsite. So if you delete it locally, there is a copy saved somewhere. Plus the recipient of your email would have a copy on their client.


8 posted on 06/16/2014 9:50:47 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: MosesKnows

It doesn’t take a professional ... you delete it on the sending end, and also delete it on the receiving end. Those are the two locations where it’s going to be.


9 posted on 06/16/2014 9:51:43 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: MosesKnows

In MS Outlook,
Go to your “Sent” e-mail and open the specific e-mail message,
Then:
Select “File”
Then Select “Resend or Recall”
Then select “Recall this Message”

Note: This only works if they haven’t already opened the message.

Note 2: This isn’t a complete erase, but usually good enough.


10 posted on 06/16/2014 9:54:23 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: MosesKnows

....keep asking all over the internet....and hint it’s worth money....sooner or later Odungo’s goons will steal it


11 posted on 06/16/2014 9:54:24 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: MosesKnows

If the email is on a server that’s backed up, there will likely always be a copy of it, ‘somewhere’.

If the email has been downloaded onto your computer and saved in a ‘Personal File/Folder’, it would take a catastrophic failure of the hard drive to eliminate it, and I mean CATASTROPHIC. We’re talking, physically destroyed. I suppose it’s also possible to do a thorough ‘wipe’ of the drive.

Even in the latter case, if the message was on the server before being downloaded to the computer, chances are it was backed up and is being stored within the backup.


12 posted on 06/16/2014 9:54:51 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: MosesKnows
If email is sent to any environment outside that of your server (i.e. non-locally) the following happens: logs in the server are updated with time, message ID, sender, recipient, etc. The mail is sent. It is received by the target server, and logged there, queued for delivery, and delivered to the recipient's mailbox. The recipient deleting that mail does not clear the log entries.

If the message is not received by the target server due to it being down, or an invalid recipient, a return code is generated that makes a log entry at the sending server.

All of this happens regardless of what either the sending user or the receiving user does (except for the act of sending it in the first place).

Depending on the mail application, that email may be stored as Sent within the sender's mailbox. It may be deleted from there by the user. With certain systems - Exchange, for one - that still does not delete the email, it only moves it to a still-recoverable area termed the Dumpster for a period of time that is configurable by the system administrator. Not until it is scrubbed from there is it actually gone.

In the meantime, the database files storing all the above have, in every professionally-administered email operation, been backed up to disk in another location, either outside the mail store, or on another local server, or on a server at a remote location. Depending on the retention requirements of the sending organization, that may be sent to tape for a specified period of time as well, from which it may be recovered.

In short, even a small organization expends a good deal of resources ensuring that mail is not lost. If it outsources the job to a vendor, the vendor does. What the IRS claims to have happened simply doesn't in any competently-managed email system these days.

There are exceptions - under an old protocol named POP the email is scrubbed from the server once it hits the workstation mailbox, but even here the log entries persist, and whatever provisions the sending organization has made for retention persist as well.

Bottom line - the IRS is lying. If it's really gone it's because somebody scrubbed the sending workstations, the sending and receiving servers, and all the log entries in both places. That requires extraordinary access and effort. It wouldn't be accidental.

13 posted on 06/16/2014 9:58:43 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MosesKnows

Well we know billions of $$$ and 10’s 1’000s of Federal workers wont & can’t do it.

I think a couple kids from the geek squad could have those e-mails within the week.


14 posted on 06/16/2014 10:03:58 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: MosesKnows

No problem…

First of all, there is absolutely no way to loose govt. Emails, it is literally impossible.

However, if you repeat the lie, that they are lost, enough times, the Media including fox news will stupidly repeat it to the point that the stupid people will go along with the lie. Then after enough time goes by, they will tell the stupid people “ this issue was resolved a long time ago … dude”

Wala~ what E-mails...


15 posted on 06/16/2014 10:09:41 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: F15Eagle

We need to get her Gmail and hotmail email too. We may have the hay bale to break this camel’s back.


16 posted on 06/16/2014 10:13:24 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: KoRn
" it would take a catastrophic failure of the hard drive to eliminate it"

Funny you should mention catastrophic failure!

After the hard drive predictive failure analysis.

The drive was deemed to fail and shredded. The shreds were mixed with many others and sent to a secure recycling facility.

A virus had also damaged all the other drives where the emails had been!

17 posted on 06/16/2014 10:13:30 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: MosesKnows

You will need to contact Merlin the Magician or other specialists in the occult. Until then, your email will continue to exist in some realm of cyberspace.


19 posted on 06/16/2014 10:15:56 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: nhwingut

And the on the server the client’s email went through.

This is a horribly easy lie to bust.


20 posted on 06/16/2014 10:17:14 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: MosesKnows

Remove your hard drive, smash it with a hammer, pour it full of oil, and toss it in a bonfire.

When hard drive cools, take it to a scrap yard and have it run through the chipper.


22 posted on 06/16/2014 10:17:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: MosesKnows

Like others have stated, for the IRS, while not impossible, it will require a lot of work to accomplish. There is no way it could be accidental, it would have to be deliberate. Then the question arises as to why those emails were deleted. She must have some pretty bad information on those emails for them to try pulling this BS.


23 posted on 06/16/2014 10:17:39 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: BusterBear
How Do I Get Rid Of An Email?

Join the Democrat Party. You get rid of everything, morals, self respect, intelligent friends, perception of reality and of course E-Mails that might reflect unfavorably on yourself.

24 posted on 06/16/2014 10:20:14 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: MosesKnows
Forget it I just did a quick search and here is an email I sent in 1992 (redacted of course)

----MESSAGE-END----
----MESSAGE-BEGIN----
[1992Dec12.224924.29793@aio.jsc.nasa.gov] <+++++++++++>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: jps+@+++++++++++++
Subject: SLIP Cookbook or FAQ neded
Message-ID: <1992Dec12.224924.++++++@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@aio.+++++++++ (USENET News System)
Organization: JJ +++++++++
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:49:24 GMT
Lines: 9
Hi Is there ANY documentation around that would help ++++++++
Thanks in advance
+++++++++

Never put anything on the "net" that you would not sign your name to or say to someone in person.

25 posted on 06/16/2014 10:21:27 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: MosesKnows

Send it to Louis Learner and have her forward it to important government figures such as Hussein Obama....it will be gone!


26 posted on 06/16/2014 10:22:14 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Star Traveler
It doesn’t take a professional ... you delete it on the sending end, and also delete it on the receiving end. Those are the two locations where it’s going to be.

In an "enterprise" email system? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

No.

Everything, repeat everything, in a corporate or government network environment is archived, with redundant backups.

27 posted on 06/16/2014 10:22:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: MosesKnows

Only lying shriveled up old marxist hags know the secret. Normal people know that all emails can be retrieved, if necessary.


28 posted on 06/16/2014 10:29:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: kevkrom

I never mentioned an enterprise mail system.


29 posted on 06/16/2014 10:34:46 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Then you totally missed the OP’s point.


30 posted on 06/16/2014 10:36:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: MosesKnows

Get a job heading up the IRS, and presto!


31 posted on 06/16/2014 10:40:47 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (There's only one reason for authorities to take the arms of good people.)
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To: kevkrom

He should be more clear and specific, if he wants a specific type of answer. Specify the equipment, the software, the two parties involved in a particular e-mail ... then we’ll have something more to talk about.

That’s like saying, “My TV doesn’t work!” You’ll get an answer, “Plug it in!”


32 posted on 06/16/2014 10:44:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

You’re still missing the point. It’s sarcasm, pointing out how impossible it should be to permanently “lose” emails like the IRS is claiming has happened to Lerner’s.


33 posted on 06/16/2014 10:46:31 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom

I say ... it depends ... and until I have specifics, I can’t say much more about it.

Of course an investigation into the specifics of it - the hardware, software and procedures will make all that known ... if someone gets that going.

Until then, no one actually knows ... but are simply speculating.


34 posted on 06/16/2014 10:51:50 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jpsb
Never put anything on the "net" that you would not sign your name to or say to someone in person.

Exactamundo!

Case in point: My favorite online document reconstruction service indicates that the signature line of that email reads something like +++ +++++++++.

35 posted on 06/16/2014 11:28:02 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Gaffer
Never send it.

Sage advice... similar in nature to "If one doesn't wish to be known as a sheepf*cker... One should try to avoid having sex with sheep"

36 posted on 06/16/2014 12:28:31 PM PDT by Rodamala
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