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Britain’s NHS is the world’s best health-care system, says report (by Commonwealth Fund)
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11:27PM BST 17 Jun 2014 | Keith Perry

Posted on 06/18/2014 6:37:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The National Health Service has been praised as the world’s best health-care system by an international panel of experts who said it was superior to those found in countries which spend far more on health.

The study, entitled “Mirror, Mirror on the Wall,” also described US healthcare provision as the worst globally. Despite investing the most money in health, the US refuses care to many patients without health insurance and is also the worst at saving the lives of people who fall ill, it found.

The Commonwealth Fund, a Washington-based foundation produced the report. The fund is respected around the world for its analysis of the performance of different countries’ health systems. It examined 11 countries, including detailed data from patients, doctors and the World Health Organization, the Guardian reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: commonwealthfund; deathpanels; nhs; obamacarefuture; uk
No fear of lying by these guys.
1 posted on 06/18/2014 6:37:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Easily debunked by ACTUALLY TALKING with two or more Brits.


2 posted on 06/18/2014 6:39:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

More LIB liars. That’s what they do.


3 posted on 06/18/2014 6:41:40 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve got scars from the NHS... I can tell you how ‘wonderful’ it is

just don’t get sick in the weekend. lost an uncle that way.

and if you’re over 65, you better have some money... else you’ll find yourself in the 18 month wait list (they hope you die before getting treatment. just like the VA here)


4 posted on 06/18/2014 6:42:20 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Olog-hai

The NHS is a religion. In fact, it is the established religion of the UK.

Once you recognize that, all of a sudden, things start to make much more sense.


5 posted on 06/18/2014 6:43:19 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Olog-hai
an international panel of experts
No doubt the same "experts" who gave us globull warming, globull cooling, climate change or whatever the BS is called today.
6 posted on 06/18/2014 6:44:43 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Olog-hai
The study, entitled “Mirror, Mirror on the Wall,” also described US healthcare provision as the worst globally.

Then 'splain to me why the wretched masses pour across our border by the thousands.

7 posted on 06/18/2014 6:45:34 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Olog-hai
Of the report's criteria, "access" and "equity" are thinly-veiled socialism - while "healthy lives" depends much less on the medical system than om individual choices, which too many Americans make poorly while assuming it's someone else's responsibility to clean up the mess.
8 posted on 06/18/2014 6:46:13 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservativeDude
The NHS is a religion.

If you don't believe it search out some of that creepy video from the London Olympics.


9 posted on 06/18/2014 6:47:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

The Commonwealth Fund is an advocate for socialized medicine, and the more socialist, the better.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/328988/commonwealth-fund-makes-it-again-grace-marie-turner

The Commonwealth Fund Makes It Up, Again

The liberal Commonwealth Fund is at it again, releasing today a new study, “Health Care in the 2012 Presidential Election: How the Obama and Romney Plans Stack Up.” But the “study” is, in a word, nonsense.

The result is nothing more than a press release for the Obama campaign.


10 posted on 06/18/2014 6:48:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Texas Eagle
Then 'splain to me why the wretched masses pour across our border by the thousands.

And swarm our emergency rooms and maternity hospitals . . .

11 posted on 06/18/2014 6:50:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: hal ogen

I,m sure they are the best of all Islamic countries.


12 posted on 06/18/2014 6:51:29 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Vigilanteman
Zackly.

Maybe we need to start our own "fund". We can rake in billions.

13 posted on 06/18/2014 6:51:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Olog-hai

As I sit in a V.A. ward, Ihave a retort:
“My tukus!”


14 posted on 06/18/2014 6:52:22 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: sten

In 2006, I remember this episode plainly occurring and getting press coverage. A Brit came up and needed hip surgery. The doc said “no”....not until you lose around seventy pounds (the guy was pushing around 270 lbs (if I remember right). The guy said he wasn’t in any shape to walk or exercise....but the doc didn’t care and just offered more pain-killers for the rest of the life of this guy.

So the guy told a friend at the pub and this guy knew some Indian guy. Within a week...an arrangement was made for this guy to fly into India and have the hip operation done for less than $10k (this included the flight, the two weeks in the hospital and full services)

NHS is ok if you just have a cold or need some stretches at the emergency room. Otherwise, you are screwed.


15 posted on 06/18/2014 6:54:49 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: sten
I’ve got scars from the NHS...and if you’re over 65

Hmmm....

So I am not crazy to think that all the retired Brit's in FLA are not just their for the weather.

Funny thing their blow-off valve i.e American Health Care in getting Obamanized into the NHS....

Tell me where I am wrong with my thumb nail analysis....

16 posted on 06/18/2014 6:55:05 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Olog-hai

Really, I was on waiting list for 4 months for my back pain. I decided to travel back to US and was seen by my Doctor same day. In London, my first and last appointment was with specialized nurse and Consultant was not available for another 4 months.


17 posted on 06/18/2014 6:55:51 AM PDT by jennychase
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To: Olog-hai

Coming soon to our nation’s shores!


18 posted on 06/18/2014 6:56:26 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Olog-hai
And here's the money quote:

The only serious criticism of the NHS was its poor record on keeping people alive.

19 posted on 06/18/2014 7:03:00 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Olog-hai

Somebody should check with the Brits before spewing idiocy like this.


20 posted on 06/18/2014 7:08:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Aunt Polgara
The only serious criticism of the NHS was its poor record on keeping people alive.

The only serious criticism of the Chicago Cubs is their poor record on scoring more runs than their opponents.

21 posted on 06/18/2014 7:28:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Olog-hai

Total bs
NHS almost bankrupt

http://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2014/jun/17/health-care-integration-costly-nhs


22 posted on 06/18/2014 7:32:44 AM PDT by exbrit
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To: Olog-hai

Yep, cosmetic surgery on NHS is probably one cause

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/18/jeremy-hunt-end-cosmetic-surgery-nhs


23 posted on 06/18/2014 7:33:47 AM PDT by exbrit
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And another one, NHS bankrupt

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/18/labour-claims-the-government-has-lost-control-of-nhs-finances


24 posted on 06/18/2014 7:34:47 AM PDT by exbrit
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To: Aunt Polgara

The only serious criticism of the NHS was its poor record on keeping people alive.


The requirement is for the NHS to provide Health Care. There’s no requirement for the provided Health Care to be effective.


25 posted on 06/18/2014 7:50:37 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s exactly right.

That sort of sealed it for me.


26 posted on 06/18/2014 8:24:08 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Olog-hai

If equality is one’s primary criterion of “good”, the NHS probably is the world’s best health-care system.

The fact that it delivers a rather mediocre level of service overall, and a dismal level of service to the elderly, is irrelevant if equality is the objective.

As bad as the UK NHS system may be, it does provide a minimum standard of medical service to all residents at a cost of around 9% of GDP. The pre-ObamaCare system cost the US around 18% of GDP (World Bank Stats.) Americans pay $8500/person/yr versus $3400 in the UK for roughly the same outcomes. (The CW Fund study.) Taking into account Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Indian Health Service, etc, US government health care spending is at least half of that amount. The federal portion alone is $3100/person/yr. State and local governments spend another $700/person/yr. Thus, total US government per capita spending is even higher than UK spending for its NHS that covers the entire UK population.

The fact is that both systems are flawed because they are both government-planned systems rather than market systems. As bad as it is, the UK socialist system does obtain better value than the old US system with its heavy regulation, subsidies, welfare programs, and third-party payments. The simple fact is that the US had a very, very expensive health care system that delivered reasonably good, but not extraordinary, results for most people. Thanks to ObamaCare, it’s going to remain very, very expensive, but quality is going to suffer.

Anyway, there is no way that the US government could replicate the level of NHS performance in the US. It can’t even run the VA hospital system.


27 posted on 06/18/2014 8:26:33 AM PDT by RBroadfoot
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