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Infertility in Spanish Pigs Has Been Traced to Plastics. A Warning for Humans?
National Geographic Magazine ^ | 6-5-2014 | Josie Glausiusz

Posted on 06/18/2014 4:33:09 PM PDT by Renfield

A strange catastrophe struck Spain's pig farmers in the spring of 2010. On 41 farms across the country—each home to between 800 and 3,000 pigs—many sows suddenly ceased bearing young.

On some farms, all the sows stopped reproducing. On others, those that did become pregnant produced smaller litters.

When investigators examined the sows and the semen that had been used to artificially inseminate them—it had been collected from different boar studs and refrigerated—they couldn't find anything wrong. The sperm cells weren't misshapen. None of the sows were diseased. No microbes or fungal toxins were detected in their feed or water.

Only one factor was common to all the farms and studs: The plastic bags used for semen storage all came from the same place.....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: health; plastics
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1 posted on 06/18/2014 4:33:09 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield; Black Agnes

Uh oh.


2 posted on 06/18/2014 4:34:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Renfield

I sometimes wonder about all the plastics and hormones in our food, in conjunction with the whole homosexual thing.


3 posted on 06/18/2014 4:37:53 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Travis McGee

I have placed mine in several different locations over the years but I must say....never in a plastic bag.

Guess I am safe.


4 posted on 06/18/2014 4:40:44 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: Travis McGee

....just now noticed you posted this thread....guess a sailor will understand my previous comment...haha.


5 posted on 06/18/2014 4:41:40 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Yeah, me neither.


6 posted on 06/18/2014 4:41:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: goodwithagun

Well, there is the belief that overpopulation of humans is the cause of all woes.


7 posted on 06/18/2014 4:43:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Travis McGee

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-disappearing-male/


8 posted on 06/18/2014 4:43:20 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Albion Wilde; Pharmboy

Ping.


9 posted on 06/18/2014 4:43:34 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Renfield

Or maybe it could be the birth control drugs from urine flushed into the water table for the last fifty years. It’s a wonder there are any sperm alive.


10 posted on 06/18/2014 4:44:40 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Renfield

Well don’t put those plastic grocery bags in your salad anymore.


11 posted on 06/18/2014 4:45:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Renfield

Good thing I store mine in mason jars.


12 posted on 06/18/2014 4:45:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Renfield

guys....don’t store your semen in plastic bags....


13 posted on 06/18/2014 4:48:24 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Renfield

“Spanish Pigs”

Geeze, even us anit-Amnesty people don’t use that term.


14 posted on 06/18/2014 4:52:19 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Renfield

They should start making condoms out of that stuff.


15 posted on 06/18/2014 4:53:17 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Renfield

Where’s General Jack D. Ripper when you need him.


16 posted on 06/18/2014 4:54:04 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Or a 5-gallon bucket?


17 posted on 06/18/2014 4:56:57 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

I think that has the same plastic issues as the bags. Insist on glass!


18 posted on 06/18/2014 4:58:05 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Renfield

19 posted on 06/18/2014 4:59:49 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Renfield

This is how scientists get it wrong. You cannot make the jump from semen, a biological living fluid, to how food May or may not absorb similar compounds. Nor can you then make the jump to how said food after consumption and digestion somehow leads to infertility. The storage mechanism failed. That is all they can say


20 posted on 06/18/2014 5:07:43 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Black Agnes

Combine the effects of plastics with the increased consumption of Soy.

http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/soys-negative-effects


21 posted on 06/18/2014 5:08:18 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: goodwithagun

Me too.

IN the meantime, don’t store your sperm in plastic bags.

I guess that rules out condoms.


22 posted on 06/18/2014 5:08:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Nifster

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0055387

“Plastics Derived Endocrine Disruptors (BPA, DEHP and DBP) Induce Epigenetic Transgenerational Inheritance of Obesity, Reproductive Disease and Sperm Epimutations “


23 posted on 06/18/2014 5:15:13 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Renfield
investigators examined the sows and the semen...

the lonely lives of investigators.

24 posted on 06/18/2014 5:18:21 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparisons)
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To: Renfield

“Magapor had purchased the semen storage bags from a Chinese manufacturer. When the company switched to a different bag producer, the Spanish pigs’ fertility returned to normal.”

The money quote.


25 posted on 06/18/2014 5:20:08 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Black Agnes

Yeah nothing like injecting your test subject with multi thousands of times a dose age to ‘prove’ that something is bad. Another bit of science paid for most likely by tax payers. Next thing you know they will want to ban salt....


26 posted on 06/18/2014 5:23:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Actually, the best ‘results’ came from the low level dose over an extended period of time. That’s the dose that had the biggest epigenetic effects in subsequent generations.


27 posted on 06/18/2014 5:25:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Renfield

We can’t use metals or stone, because that involves mining and quarrying. We can’t use wood, because that involves cutting trees. We can’t build dams, because that disrupts spawning. We can’t build nuclear plants, because they create radioactive waste. We can’t use fossil fuels, because they are not sustainable. We can’t use plastics, because they derive from fossil fuels. Therefore, we need to kill six billion people. /s


28 posted on 06/18/2014 5:32:58 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: maine yankee
“Combine the effects of plastics with the increased consumption of Soy.”

I would commit suicide before I would eat soy!

29 posted on 06/18/2014 5:35:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: headstamp 2

Oh my. Fascinating. And reminds me of the rising price of pork products in the US.


30 posted on 06/18/2014 5:36:15 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Renfield

Infertility in humans is caused by confusing entrance A with exit B.


31 posted on 06/18/2014 5:36:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Nifster

It costs far too much coin to derive the proper links to the conclusion. Anyway, they just know it has to be right, and then run with it. Much like AGW.


32 posted on 06/18/2014 5:42:16 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: Renfield
bout 15 to 20 years I remember an article on a health website that described a story about a small town in Puerto Rico that all of its young girls were going into puberty at 8, 9 and 10 years old. Officials and doctors were alerted and if I remember, it was isolated to this community. It was decided that it was because of a type of plastic in milk jug that were being produced locally. Everything went back to normal when the jugs were disposed of.
33 posted on 06/18/2014 5:43:25 PM PDT by taterbug
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To: headstamp 2

Money quote is right; you beat me to it. I think only 2% actually read the linked articles. I’m sometimes of that 2%, depending on my schedule.
Guilty as charged...


34 posted on 06/18/2014 6:06:06 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: headstamp 2
“Magapor had purchased the semen storage bags from a Chinese manufacturer. When the company switched to a different bag producer, the Spanish pigs’ fertility returned to normal.” The money quote.

Right? Hmmm. Let's see. It's not happened before, they buy from a Chinese manufacturer and it's now happening. Well, golly gee!

35 posted on 06/18/2014 6:06:48 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: Renfield

It’s hard to take this article seriously. BPA has been repeatedly proven to be safe.

I guess some people need something to be afraid of.


36 posted on 06/18/2014 6:13:33 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: VeniVidiVici

No WONDER the Chinese have to exterminate every endangered species on earth to allow them to get it up-—they’re fertility-compromised because of their cheaply made plastic bags.


37 posted on 06/18/2014 7:11:03 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Black Agnes

and has nothing to do with human consumption....like banning saccharin and the whole Tab fiasco. “The soda later garnered negative publicity when scientists speculated that its main sweetener, sodium saccharin, was a potential animal carcinogen.[4] These studies, conducted on lab rats, resulted in mandatory warning labels on the soda throughout the late 1970s and 1980s. In recent years, the studies asserting saccharin’s carcinogenic effects have been largely debunked. Recent studies found the initial findings to be flawed and U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revoked the mandatory health labels in 2000,[4] deeming no correlation between saccharin and cancer in humans”


38 posted on 06/18/2014 7:21:44 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SgtHooper

Got it


39 posted on 06/18/2014 7:26:02 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Go find some high school yearbooks from the 1920’s. Preferably a rural area. Note the square jaws and 5 o’clock shadow on the senior boys. This was my grandfather’s generation. They all had deep resonant voices.

Now, look at the same HS yearbook from the year 2014. The senior boys all look like overgrown 13yr olds who haven’t, largely, hit puberty yet. They have effeminate sloped jawlines and ‘sweet’ voices. The square jaws are on the senior girls. I’m sure this is because they just weren’t spanked enough...


40 posted on 06/18/2014 7:27:26 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: cherry

Magapor had purchased the semen storage bags from a Chinese manufacturer. When the company switched to a different bag producer, the Spanish pigs’ fertility returned to normal.


41 posted on 06/18/2014 7:34:02 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Nifster

Don’t get me started on soft drinks ,, the original artificial sweetener that was banned ,, the cyclamates , tasted great and were later proven to be harmless.


42 posted on 06/18/2014 7:37:46 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Renfield
It's too bad the can't work these Chinese plastic bags over to our wild pigs in the South. There's an epidemic of hogs in the woods, fields and swamps and they're out-breeding even the hunters.

Damn fertile Myrtles!


43 posted on 06/18/2014 7:49:44 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: maine yankee

The day will come that factory soy can no longer be protected.

I avoid raw soy... which is hard as “they” put it in everything...

I also believe it makes people “vote poorly”. Bwhahaha!


44 posted on 06/18/2014 8:00:27 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Black Agnes

Perhaps there is something to Weston A. Price’s studies, afterall?


45 posted on 06/18/2014 8:04:29 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Neidermeyer

How much of our food supply and pharmaceuticals comes from China. I’m sure they’d never engage in ‘shenanigans’ with any of that.

20 years ago the largest city near me had one part time fertility doc located in a major ob/gyn practice. His patients (he’s a friend of a friend) were 2 types (ok, 3). They were either the 35+ who forgot to have kids, the 20 something or early 30 something who had reproductive damage from an STD or tubal ligation and changed their minds, or they were damaged due to DES.

Now, that same city has grown by about 20% populationwise. However, now there are SIX fulltime fertility docs. They have patients in the above mentioned categories along with a whole host of men who have no swimmers or have too few to do the job or have defective swimmers. Along with a whole bunch of seemingly healthy couples who are infertile for ‘we have no idea why you can’t get pregnant...’. The latter group contains a lot of mid/late 20 somethings. The waiting list at those fertility specialists clinics run from 3-6m for an initial appointment.

I’m about 15yrs older than that particular demographic. When WE were in our late 20’s we’d never heard of someone being infertile. And we were hardly getting married off in our late teens either. Many of us waited till our mid/late 20’s to become mothers with absolutely no problems. Infertility was for someone ‘damaged’ or some sad 40yr old. In our group (and it happened more than once), if your boyfriend hung his pants on the chair you MIGHT be a mama 9m later. It’s not like that for that age group now.

Even the teen pregnancy rate has crashed. Significantly. Even among the demographic for whom a teen pregnancy is a ‘career move’. They’re not having babies like they were 20 years ago. And you’ll not convince me it’s because they’ve all suddenly decided to go to junior college. I know better than that...Ditto trying to convince me they’ve stopped having sex or have suddenly become responsible about using birth control for some reason.

And all those abortion clinic closings? As much as I’d like to believe it’s because the women suddenly decided en masse they’d rather keep the baby, I suspect based on the aforementioned data it’s because even unwanted pregnancies are becoming increasingly uncommon.

The question is, why? I fail to believe it’s because a generation of kids wasn’t spanked appropriately and somehow the participation trophies have stolen their fertility.


46 posted on 06/18/2014 8:14:48 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Rodamala

At the very least.


47 posted on 06/18/2014 8:18:15 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

You have grown older. I am old enough that my parents were of your grand parents generation. My father’s high graduation picture looks about the same as mt brother’s and my daughter’s friends. You have an axe to grind and I am not sure why. The studies you cite are meaningless and your personal observations, while interesting to you, are anecdotal.

Your views on child rearing are strande


48 posted on 06/18/2014 10:27:38 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I have no ax to grind. I merely notice the differences between kids in my generation and those of today. Today’s young males are WAY more effete than those of even 30 years ago. They are also way more infertile.

Sperm counts are halving every generation. That’s not normal. Or healthy.


49 posted on 06/19/2014 5:11:53 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Nifster

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/15/world/la-fg-israel-sperm-20120816

Lots more out there like this one.

As I said, the effect is most noted in those who have rural grandparents. As compared to the grandkids today.


50 posted on 06/19/2014 5:19:02 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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