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Store Opposes Self-Defense, Suspends Armed Store Clerk
Daily Caller ^ | 06/19/2014 | Chuck Ross

Posted on 06/19/2014 1:28:41 AM PDT by kingattax

A Vermont store clerk has been suspended from his job after he drew a gun in self-defense during a robbery.

Don Pitaniello, a 58 year-old Vietnam veteran from Rutland, was closing up shop at Mac’s Convenience Store on Sunday when a man wearing a hoodie and a bandana over his face stormed in wielding a 5-inch knife, the Rutland Herald reports.

“He walked up to the counter, laid the knife on it and said ‘Empty the register,’” Pitaniello told the paper.

“I knew his intentions as soon as he came in,” Pitaniello said. “When he told me to empty the register, I cocked my head and said ‘Really?’”

But Pitaniello had something ready for the man – a .380-caliber handgun hidden behind his back.

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1 posted on 06/19/2014 1:28:41 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Would the store owner rather that he had emptied the register instead? Probably not but to avoid being politically incorrect, just suspend the employee for doing the right thing.


2 posted on 06/19/2014 1:34:14 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The answer is that they prefer to be robbed.

All of this comes down to insurance. If the burglar is shot to maimed, the insurance company is culpable. If the employee beats up the robber, the robber sues and the insurance is culpable.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 1:40:59 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

And if the employee is killed? Just hire another one I guess. No one’s fault. So I guess it’s up to the employee to determine if his life is worth more than his job.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 1:43:15 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Yes, because the money and products are insured.

If somebody gets injured, because of an employee trying to stop the robbery, the cost to settle the lawsuit would be in the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 1:43:16 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

BTW, it’s the same reason stores won’t let you in after the posted closure no matter how much you beg.

The insurance company.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 1:43:27 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Or if a bystander gets injured while the employee(s) are trying to hold down the criminal, the business is culpable.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 1:44:35 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Go to work where someone allows you to be armed. Simple.

But if the insurance company won’t pay, the store is left cold.


8 posted on 06/19/2014 1:44:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: kingattax

This video is always entertaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnMXLT4pZq4


9 posted on 06/19/2014 1:46:19 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: kingattax

A 58-year-old Vietnam veteran?


10 posted on 06/19/2014 1:47:06 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: ComputerGuy

He’d be a thirteen year old patriot, going off to ‘Nam.


11 posted on 06/19/2014 1:49:38 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: kingattax

waving a knife in a man’s face is good enough reason to shoot to kill in my opinion. You’re doing society a favor at that point. Like picking up some trash on the street and putting it where it belongs. Of course, opinions are different on the east coast.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 1:50:20 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: ComputerGuy

Nam ended in 75. If he’s 58, he would have been 18 in 1974. He could have gone in 73 if he lied about his age, or volunteered, or if his birthday lined up right, so he could have been on the ground there for a year easily, though it would have had to be right at the end.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 1:51:54 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Jonty30

Now that he’s made the papers, he’s gonna be checked out by somebody, I’m sure. Maybe he’s legit. He could have been on the Mayaguez mission in 1975.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 1:52:31 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: kingattax
Stores can write all the rules they wish. Anyone working a walk in store especially at night unarmed is crazy. I worked one for about a year. I had third shift in a not so traveled neighborhood. If I had been shot a next customer may have been an hour or more walking in and finding me. I carried. My boss carrier. My bosses son who worked there carried. The company policy was don't carry. We worked alone. The only thing I had going for me besides carrying was giving Cops free coffee to keep them coming in several times a night.

The guy working at a bigger daytime store across the road wasn't so lucky. A guy came in one morning to rob the store and he died unarmed unable to defend himself.

15 posted on 06/19/2014 2:01:41 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Did you have sufficient bullet proof barriers between you and the customer? It has to be tough working in those places.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 2:06:53 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Little Pig
Nam ended in 75. If he’s 58, he would have been 18 in 1974. He could have gone in 73 if he lied about his age, or volunteered, or if his birthday lined up right, so he could have been on the ground there for a year easily, though it would have had to be right at the end.

I knew one guy who dropped out our junior year of high school. He was probably 17 at the most. I do remember he was driving though. He enlisted in the Navy as soon as he quit school. I graduated the next year and that fall joined the Navy. Guess who I saw when I got to my ship? LOL. I was 19 when I enlisted in 1976.

17 posted on 06/19/2014 2:08:50 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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now I know which store to rob


18 posted on 06/19/2014 2:15:37 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: BunnySlippers
Did you have sufficient bullet proof barriers between you and the customer? It has to be tough working in those places.

Nope no protection at all. The store was wide open the cash register was in the middle of the store. It was a former 7/11 store. That was in about 1987 or so. A few years back that same neighborhood was the scene of the worse carjacking/double murder/torture/rape in the cities history. My nephew worked in that neighborhood up till a few months ago. When he had car trouble getting off at night I'd go get him. I carried my larger caliber firearm for those trips. Law or no laws company rules or no rules no one is going to protect you when it comes down to it but yourself. My policy in such situations? Shut up and carry.

19 posted on 06/19/2014 2:15:53 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: kingattax

Maybe they will hire him back after the next clerk gets killed :-)


20 posted on 06/19/2014 2:29:46 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: cva66snipe

~~~Anyone working a walk in store especially at night unarmed is crazy.~~~

I agree. That is one tough spot.

A few years ago there was a story about an overnight (24 hours) store. Some guy robbed the place and a cop pulled up just to go in for a purchase. The robber saw the cop and assumed, apparently, that the cop was there for him when in fact no call had been made. They both drew and the cop was shot twice, in each armpit, amazingly, just outside his bulletproof vest. Somebody came upon them a short time later as they had mortally-wounded each other.

Creepy.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 2:40:23 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: kingattax
"EMPTY THE REGISTER"

Alright ,I'll empty somthin!


22 posted on 06/19/2014 2:54:04 AM PDT by Cheapskate
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To: F15Eagle
Yea I'd say so. If someone wanted to carry the darn store off I'd make a passive attempt to stop them then otherwise take down info such as description etc. If someone had came in and pointed a weapon at me that was a different matter. It really gets to me when I go into those stores at night and a woman is there all alone. Owner is just begging to get hit.

We did do some things to discourage being robbed. One was looking at the person walking in as soon as they came through the door and making eye contact. If you didn't know the customer attempt eye contact several times more afterward. That discourages them a little. Next if alone is to have a firearms magazine and be looking at it while watching the customer LOL. Believe it or not having something as simple as a pinball machine where guys come in late ant night to play also helps. You get to know your regulars. Blocking them from a fast getaway discouraged them.

I had a 72 LTD the Lead Sled I called it. Very long hood. I parked it at the front door and persons had to kinda walk sideways around it to get by. That one stopped a beer grabber one night LOL. He ran out the door and straight into my car.

23 posted on 06/19/2014 3:03:35 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

I hope the LTD was alright. Gosh, I miss the way America used to be.

Like when there was the Galaxy with the 428 in it. And Thunderbirds were real cars with real engines.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 3:21:22 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: ComputerGuy

“What were you, a drummer boy?”


25 posted on 06/19/2014 3:38:49 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Telepathic Intruder

In Obama’s America, employees are expendable. I mean it’s not like there aren’t plenty of replacements available. Now a man in a hoodie; that’s another story. The business owner doesn’t want the MSM turning him into another Trayvon.


26 posted on 06/19/2014 4:20:21 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: kingattax

The left wants the ‘oppressed’ underclass to waltz right in and take whatever it wants from the ‘oppressors’. The ‘oppressors’ are supposed to lie down in abject submission.


27 posted on 06/19/2014 4:30:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Flick Lives

These stories pre-date Obama. Your beef is with the insurance companies, period.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 4:34:02 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: cva66snipe

I worked a c store 2nd shift for almost 7 years. You’d best believe my S&W was always under my shirt.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 6:40:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: kingattax

I worked for several retail chains. Every one of them had a company policy against ANYONE being armed on the premises.

One of them did hire us a security guard once after an armed robbery took place next-door. He showed up and they told him he could not be armed. He was a retired 30 year veteran police officer. He quit in disgust and did not even work a day.


30 posted on 06/19/2014 6:52:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: BunnySlippers

Death of biblical common sense leads to this upside down bizzarro world.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 6:54:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BunnySlippers

BTW, it’s the same reason stores won’t let you in after the posted closure no matter how much you beg.

The insurance company.

-=0=-
Nope; lawyers.....


32 posted on 06/19/2014 12:01:31 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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