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Rutland clerk pulls gun on robber
http://rutlandherald.com/article/20140617/THISJUSTIN/306179999 ^ | June 17,2014 | Brent Curtis

Posted on 06/19/2014 6:14:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch


Pitaniello, 58, of Rutland, said he was preparing to close up Mac’s Convenience Store at 145 North Main St. before 9:30 p.m. when a man wearing a hoodie and a bandana over his face entered the store and threatened him with a roughly 5-inch blade.

“I looked up when I heard the doorbell chimes and saw the hoodie, the bandana, and a bag in his hand,” Pitaniello said Monday. “He walked up to the counter, laid the knife on it and said ‘Empty the register.’”

But the Vietnam veteran, who said he has carried a gun all his life, said he had his .380-caliber handgun in his grasp and behind his back before the unidentified intruder made it to the counter.

“I knew his intentions as soon as he came in,” Pitaniello said. “When he told me to empty the register, I cocked my head and said ‘Really?’”

At that point, the clerk said the man picked up the knife and “waved it in my face.”

Pitaniello said he responded by raising his gun and pointing it at the other man’s face.

“I told him he better get the (expletive) out of there,” he said.

Without a word, the intruder fled the store on foot and Pitaniello said he followed far enough to see the man running west on North Street.

Pitaniello said the incident could cost him his job but he doesn’t regret his actions.

“That store has been robbed eight or nine times and I always work nights,” he said. I’m a firm believer in having a gun and not needing it rather than the other way around. I can always find a new job.”

asked to call city police at 773-1816.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist

1 posted on 06/19/2014 6:14:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
This is an outrage! The store is a gun-free zone! The robber had a right to feel safe robbing it!
2 posted on 06/19/2014 6:16:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: B4Ranch

The Left would rather he had just handed over all the money and be a victim just like them than have a gun


3 posted on 06/19/2014 6:17:34 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: B4Ranch

Oh the robber was just trying to get his reparations.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 6:18:26 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: B4Ranch

I recall a story about an old man outside of a grocery store at his car confronted by a would-be robber demanding his valuables. The old man opened his care door and bent over inside.

The robber asked him, “what are you doing?”

“I am getting my revolver and I’m going to blow your damned head off.”

Robber fled.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 6:19:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: B4Ranch
That's the kind of man I'd want to man my store at night.

6 posted on 06/19/2014 6:20:54 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: B4Ranch

Sounds like his boss is another yayhole lib. Store has been robber 8 or 9 times and he disallows this guy to defend himself? What a piece of piece of chit. I guess he would have preferred his employee to get a knife in his chest.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 6:21:46 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: B4Ranch
“If they bring a knife to a fight, we'll bring a gun!” The only policy Soetoro has introduced that works as advertised.
8 posted on 06/19/2014 6:23:47 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Gaffer

Guns are excellent punk repellent, too bad the fascists in this country always side with the punks which gets people killed. If we had a real press in this country, they would report all the lives saved by guns besides all the ones who die because they are disarmed because their 2nd Amendment constitutional right was unconstitutionally infringed even though the right specifically states it “Shall not be infringed”.


9 posted on 06/19/2014 6:28:54 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: BitWielder1

That’s the kind of man I’d want to man my store at night.

>>>>>>>>

That’s the kind of man I’d want to man my congress.


10 posted on 06/19/2014 6:31:53 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: B4Ranch
At that point, the clerk said the man picked up the knife and “waved it in my face.” Pitaniello said he responded by raising his gun and pointing it at the other man’s face.

LOL. And then the punk responded by soiling his britches. That quote made my day.

11 posted on 06/19/2014 6:32:05 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: B4Ranch

Rutland MA? Rutland VT? Rutland where?


12 posted on 06/19/2014 6:32:32 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Click the link and find out.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 6:36:52 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

BTTT!


14 posted on 06/19/2014 6:38:11 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: B4Ranch

58 year old Nam Vet? Have I got my dates wrong?


15 posted on 06/19/2014 6:39:00 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: B4Ranch

Shouldn’t have to.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 6:39:00 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: B4Ranch
the man picked up the knife and “waved it in my face.”

That would justify the use of deadly force (unless one is in Sodomchusetts or some other East Coast hellhole state). Now the yute will probably use the knife on his next victim rather than just waving it.

17 posted on 06/19/2014 6:39:36 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Rutland Vermont. From the article: “Don Pitaniello said Monday he’s been suspended from his job as a clerk at a North Main Street convenience store after drawing a gun on a knife-wielding robber Sunday night.” Definitely time to find another job-boss. Maybe if his boss worked a few night shifts he would change his outlook.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 6:40:45 AM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: CrazyIvan
58 year old Nam Vet? Have I got my dates wrong?

Yeah...not likely he was in Viet Nam when he was 14.

19 posted on 06/19/2014 6:41:16 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: B4Ranch; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...
thanks, for the post...
D@rn fool brought a knife to a gunfight...
SWORD PING!...


20 posted on 06/19/2014 6:43:51 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: CrazyIvan

He could have been in there in the last year or two if he enlisted at 17.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 6:44:27 AM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: W.Lee

Not to pick nits, but there’s nothing in the article that identifies the state. It is customary for a poster to place the state name in the keywords section. And since the entire article text was posted and not excerpted, there’s no need to click a link.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 6:44:31 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: W.Lee

If he is 58 then he would have been 17 in 1973 when the war ended.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 6:46:43 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: B4Ranch
Rutland, like so many other towns in Vermont, has a huge heroin problem, so it is not a surprise that this store has been robbed so many times. The bounty that is liberalism is on full display in the people's republic of Vermont.
24 posted on 06/19/2014 6:49:39 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

S’ok.... you can pick my nits any ‘ol time. I was just tryin’ to be helpful. As for the ‘Nam vet thing, at 58 he was born around ‘55 or so. So he might have been in country before the pull out, or perhaps was a Marine stationed at the Embassy. It’s possible.


25 posted on 06/19/2014 6:51:11 AM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

If his birthday is tomorrow, he’s almost 59, and could have been there for the last year. Then again, the press often identifies BB guns as assault rifles... They may have his age wrong, or something else.


26 posted on 06/19/2014 6:55:37 AM PDT by HeadOn (God resists the proud.)
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To: W.Lee
True. Possible.

Which reminds me of an old joke.

When old Ethel went down to see the doc for her annual checkup, the doc exclaimed...
"Whew! Ethel! Good heavens you smell awful! Haven't you had a bath or shower?"
"Why sure I have. I shower every day."
The doc says, "Well, tell me how you shower. What do you wash first?"
Ethel replies, "Well, first I start with my head and shampoo my hair. Then I wash with soap as far down as possible. Then I do my feet and wash as far up as possible."

The doc says, "I think I see the problem. You need to go home right now and wash your 'possible'."

27 posted on 06/19/2014 6:57:56 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks, clerk. You just let an armed robber escape to rob again. And maybe murder. You have not made society better, you have maybe made it worse. If the robber kills someone next time, it will be your fault.

Thanks for nothing.

So, you saved yourself the hassle of cleaning up after. You didn’t feel like protecting society that night. You didn’t want a sense of guilt for killing. You didn’t want the risk that some stupid prosecutor would try to prosecute you for something.

Blah, blah. Excuses are easy, and everybody can come up with one. But you didn’t do your duty as a citizen, to stop an armed violent crime and a violent, dangerous criminal. You let a rabid dog go.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 7:06:10 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The clerk was not carrying the weapon to protect the store or the community. That is the job of the police department. He was carrying the weapon for SELF-PROTECTION which is the same reason I carry. My weapon is to protect my wife and myself, not someone else’s property or someone else’s life.

Would you be willing to pay all legal costs involved had the clerk, shot and wounded or killed the robber? If not, why not?


29 posted on 06/19/2014 7:35:10 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

He coulda lied about his age! He probably started grow facial hair at 9 years old!


30 posted on 06/19/2014 7:41:29 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: B4Ranch

‘Pitaniello said he responded by raising his gun and pointing it at the other man’s face.

“I told him he better get the (expletive) out of there,” he said.’

At least the redistributionist got away to redistribute again another day!/s


31 posted on 06/19/2014 7:47:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Didn’t the war officially end in April of 1975?


32 posted on 06/19/2014 8:44:52 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper
Didn’t the war officially end in April of 1975?

15 August 1975.

33 posted on 06/19/2014 11:43:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: SgtHooper

My earlier post was in error when I typed in 1973.


34 posted on 06/19/2014 11:44:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: B4Ranch

All citizens are effectively the police. The uniformed police are just a convenience.

For many years, the public has been encouraged to believe that inaction and indifference to violent crime and criminals, when you have adequate means to stop it and them, using the excuse that uniformed police exist, is an affirmative defense, that is, that it defeats or mitigates the legal consequences of their otherwise unlawful conduct.

But the truth is that inaction or indifference, when you have the means, constitute reckless endangerment, if no one is seriously injured or killed, or even depraved indifference, if someone is killed due to inaction.

This is best illustrated by a police officer who detains a violent criminal in the commission of a felony, and then decides to let them go for some petty reason. No one would blink an eye if that officer was charged with a crime.

But carrying a gun, even if you intend it solely for self defense, gives you the means to prevent a violent crime and stop a violent criminal. If you choose not to do so, it is like observing an apartment building on fire at night, but choosing to not call the fire department, “because you don’t want to get involved.”

Even if you cannot be prosecuted for it, there is no, zero righteous justification for your inaction.


35 posted on 06/19/2014 11:56:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

>>Even if you cannot be prosecuted for it, there is no, zero righteous justification for your inaction.<<

That’s the problem right there. You can and will be prosecuted if there is the slightest reason to do so. You are not protected by a thin blue line. If other people want the same protection that I have, then they too can carry as I do.

You didn’t answer the question: Would you be willing to pay all legal costs involved had the clerk, shot and wounded or killed the robber? If not, why not?


36 posted on 06/19/2014 12:53:14 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Well, it depends on jurisdiction. In the case of Vermont, where this took place, while it has no stand your ground law or castle doctrine law, for the most part the law is clear.

§ 2305. Justifiable homicide

If a person kills or wounds another under any of the circumstances enumerated below, he or she shall be guiltless:

...(2) In the suppression of a person attempting to commit murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, burglary or robbery, with force or violence.

This being said, it is up to the local law enforcement and prosecutor whether or not to file charges. In much of the country today, police just shrug off such shootings, and there being no charges, the shooter is free to go his own way. In many states with SYG and Castle there is even limited immunity to wrongful death lawsuit.

So arrest and prosecution is not a given. But it should be a factor in your decision whether or not to shoot the villain.

However, above and beyond the law, a dead robber robs no more, nor will they come back to your place with a deadlier weapon.


37 posted on 06/19/2014 3:26:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Someone else’s decision not to protect themselves does not place their lack of determination on my shoulders. If other people want the same protection that I have, then they too can carry as I do.


38 posted on 06/19/2014 4:04:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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