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Blackhawks name hasn't been as controversial as Redskins
Chicago Tribune ^ | June 18, 2014 | John Keilman

Posted on 06/20/2014 7:10:32 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

The Chicago Blackhawks declined to comment about the Washington Redskins’ loss of trademark protection Wednesday, but an expert said there’s little reason to believe the hockey team’s name and Indian head logo could face similar jeopardy.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office found in a 2-to-1 decision that trademarks covering the Redskins’ name and associated symbols disparaged American Indians, and thus must be canceled under federal law. The team vowed to appeal, noting it had won a similar legal case a decade ago.

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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: blackhawks; logo; names; redskins
New England Patriots and Minnesota Vikings, among others, could be future targets.
1 posted on 06/20/2014 7:10:32 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Blackskins, the new N-Word!


2 posted on 06/20/2014 7:12:34 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Why not Cowboys as well? It’s sexist.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 7:16:33 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I hear the gays are offended by Green Bay’s name....


4 posted on 06/20/2014 7:19:03 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ConservativeStatement

Blackhawk is a tribal name, is it not? Redskins is a generic name that anyone can claim is offensive. Maybe Washington should change their name to a tribal name like Mohawks. I wonder if that would pass muster?


5 posted on 06/20/2014 7:21:12 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: TexasCajun

Blackhawks! Must be changed! It will offend someone! Team names must be banned! let them use numbers Like the Washington 122, or the Chicago 554s


6 posted on 06/20/2014 7:21:33 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Don’t forget the Cowboys, Bucaneers, Raiders, Steelers, and the 49ers. Can’t have teams with names that exemplify evil groups of white people killing and exploiting native peoples and natural resources to quench their ruthless need for wealth. Oh sorry, I was in liberal mindset mode there for a minute. This is ridiculous. Political correctness has gone into overdrive. Next it will be onto names on our food. Can’t have cookies called oreos and God forbid we should have Aunt Jemima frozen waffles and Uncle Ben’s rice......


7 posted on 06/20/2014 7:24:10 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s the difference between a team named the Brooklyn Chasids versus one called the Staten Island Kikes.

Redskins is not the neutral name of a tribe, or a generic group of people, it’s a derogatory term for a “savage” enemy that we tried hard to exterminate for a century.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 7:30:12 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s the difference between a team named the Brooklyn Chasids versus one called the Staten Island Kikes.

Redskins is not the neutral name of a tribe, or a generic group of people, it’s a derogatory term for a “savage” enemy that we tried hard to exterminate for a century.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 7:30:12 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: smokingfrog
There is a probability of degrees of offense to some but I think if the Redskins changed the name to something akin to Mohawks, considering the current fervor, the new name would be equally ridiculed. I remember when the USFL had nicknames such as the Oklahoma Outlaws and the Tampa Bay Bandits. I have doubts as to whether those would be allowed. Remember, Washington Bullets was recently changed to Washington Wizards to appease a certain condition, meaning questionable nicknames aren't limited to the names representing people.
10 posted on 06/20/2014 7:31:13 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

The Blackhawks should worry. Liberals never stop assaulting the culture. Look what they’ve done with cigarette smoke. Look what they’ve done with gay rights. Anyone who thinks they’ll go away with a few political victories is sadly mistaken.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 7:31:43 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

How about the Los Angeles Angels MLB team? Doesn’t the name offend atheists? Wait a minute...better change the name of the city itself. Then there are those offensive ‘saint’ cities like Santa Barbara, etc. Man, this is going to get rough.


12 posted on 06/20/2014 7:32:13 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: ConservativeStatement

This is not the hill I want to die on. Daniel Snyder’s licensing rights are just no concern of mine. WHO CARES. They should change their name to the Hogs in honor of the O-line of their last good teams, and be done with it. Why is this something the Republican party should be fighting for?


13 posted on 06/20/2014 7:32:59 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

Exactly.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 7:34:04 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: ConservativeStatement

How about the names of towns being offensive! There are lots of cities with Indian tribal names Just look at Oklahoma, Alabama and Mississippi.

Then there is that evil RED MAN chewing tobacco and cigar store Indians.

“Kaw-Liga”

KAW-LIGA, was a wooden Indian standing by the door
He fell in love with an Indian maid over in the antique store
KAW-LIGA - A, just stood there and never let it show
So she could never answer “YES” or “NO”.

He always wore his Sunday feathers and held a tomahawk
The maiden wore her beads and braids and hoped someday he’d talk
KAW-LIGA - A, too stubborn to ever show a sign
Because his heart was made of knotty pine.

[Chorus:]
Poor ol’ KAW-LIGA, he never got a kiss
Poor ol’ KAW-LIGA, he don’t know what he missed
Is it any wonder that his face is red
KAW-LIGA, that poor ol’ wooden head.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 7:36:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: babble-on

Heck. Move the team to San Antonio call them the Bandits and be done with it.

Washington could get a new team and call them the Washington Wusses.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 7:36:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: babble-on

I don’t disagree that there are far more important issues and causes but what happens if people want to change the names of schools or streets or towns and cities named after former US presidents or founding fathers because some deem it representative of something offensive from the past?


17 posted on 06/20/2014 7:37:16 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: babble-on
"Why is this something the Republican party should be fighting for?"

Because it sets a precedence. What they are saying is if a Trademarked Name is deemed offensive in the least bit then the Gub'ment has the right to disallow the trademark.

That is a very slippery slope.

I mean I bet there is a few people that think Smith and Wesson, Glock, Ruger and Remington are offensive. Can you imagine the political WMD you are heading to the Gub'ment by saying this is OK?

18 posted on 06/20/2014 7:41:08 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Patriots were nothing but slave owners.
Vikings were the first oppressors of Native Americans


19 posted on 06/20/2014 7:41:34 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: babble-on

My state of Oklahoma will need to change its name then. The Choctaw words okla and humma means red people. Not a derogatory term for savages. Redskins was also a generic moniker. Over time, the meaning of words are changed by activists. Hell, just a year ago, marriage meant something completely different.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 7:41:36 AM PDT by optiguy (If government is the answer, it was a stupid question.)
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To: babble-on
**They should change their name to the Hogs...***

Already taken. GO HOGS!


21 posted on 06/20/2014 7:42:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I would guess it would be discussed and reasonable people can determine the proper course of action.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 7:42:10 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: smokingfrog
Not really.

While there was no doubt more than one Black Hawk, the most famous is a chief of the Sauk tribe who fought the US in and around IL. A. Lincoln was in the IL militia during this war.

23 posted on 06/20/2014 7:45:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If that were to happen then people in the relevant community would have to decide what they think about the matter and then make the best decision they are capable of. Just because something has been one way for a long time doesn’t mean it has to always be that way. The Washington Redskins team name is not in the Ten Commandments or the Bill of Rights. It’s just a stupid nickname (as are all team nicknames when you think about it) for a business entity representing the capital city of the country.

If the Munich, Germany soccer team were to change its name to the Hook-nosed Moneylending Christ-killers, do you think people would be offended? I do. I am Jewish which is why I am using these metaphors, because they resonate for me personally, and by analogy I can see how an American Indian would be offended by the Redskins, but much less so by the Blackhawks. (Chief Wahoo, on the other hand.......)


24 posted on 06/20/2014 7:46:12 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

Change the name to the African American Hawks.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 7:47:24 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: smokingfrog

Denver 420’s.


26 posted on 06/20/2014 7:48:14 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ConservativeStatement

I find blackskins, pinkskins, yellowskins and redskins to be in bad taste where I find blackhawks, seminoles, indians, etc. to be fine.

I think is comes from old expressions like “skin the bastard alive.”


27 posted on 06/20/2014 7:51:20 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: babble-on
a “savage” enemy that we tried hard to exterminate for a century.

That they were savage is a fact. Regardless of how un-PC it is to say so today. Or, if you wish to dispute the term, you'll have to come up with a definition of "non-savage" that allows for routinely torturing captured enemies to death, which most tribes practiced.

It is factually incorrect to say "we tried hard to exterminate (them) for a century."

US policy wavered, but generally was aimed at assimilating Indians, not exterminating them. Of course, you can get around that by calling it "cultural genocide." When Indians were moved onto reservations, we fed them, however poorly the policy was implemented in many cases. Not exactly something you do with people you are determined to exterminate.

That physical extermination was never routine US policy can by seen by the fact that they weren't exterminated, when doing so was easily within US capabilities.

To look at an actual policy of extermination, you might want to google the Indian Wars of Argentina. They DID have a policy of extermination, and Argentina doesn't really have an Indian problem today. Because they mostly don't have any Indians.

28 posted on 06/20/2014 7:53:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: smokingfrog
Blackhawk is a tribal name, is it not?

Last year the NCAA did away with the "Fighting Sioux," but had no problem with keeping the "Fighting Irish."

29 posted on 06/20/2014 8:03:24 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: Yorlik803
Vikings were the first oppressors of Native Americans

Soon to be in your kids textbooks - LOL !!!

30 posted on 06/20/2014 8:05:18 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: 11th_VA

the Fighting Irish it could be pointed out, were so named by fighting Irishmen


31 posted on 06/20/2014 8:08:25 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

The Green Bay Packers are next.


32 posted on 06/20/2014 8:09:56 AM PDT by MCH
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To: ConservativeStatement
I heard that the term Red Skin refers to a name given to certain Indians in the early 1700’s. They were called that because they painted their faces in red paint. Other tribes also referred to them as the Red Skins. So I guess all of the fans who color their faces at ball games are prejudice bastards.
33 posted on 06/20/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by jetson
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To: babble-on
sorry I do not buy your derogatory name theory..

If you look at the name and logo of the Washington Redskins vs the name and logo of the Cleveland Indians..

the Indian's logo is far more offensive

..a “little Sambo” type logo

vs the Redskins logo which is almost a Noble monument type logo similar to the Indian Head nickel

People that go out to find things to be offended by are sad.

I'm handicapped, arm amputee, if I went around finding offense at everything I could, I'd have no life

34 posted on 06/20/2014 8:35:23 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: ConservativeStatement

black panters?


35 posted on 06/20/2014 8:49:54 AM PDT by californian by choice
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To: babble-on; ConservativeStatement
Redskins is not the neutral name of a tribe, or a generic group of people, it’s a derogatory term for a “savage” enemy that we tried hard to exterminate for a century.

Huh? Redskins is a generic moniker -- all mascots are -- it's kind of the point. Certain North American tribes were "savage". And, you shouldn't judge "savage" as if it were necessarily a bad thing given the environment they thrived in. And "exterminate" ... I don't recall the Trail of Tears ending in a Nazi shower.


36 posted on 06/20/2014 8:55:42 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: smokingfrog

The way the Redskins have been playing, there name should be “Lesshawks” instead of “Mohawks.”


37 posted on 06/20/2014 10:07:25 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: tophat9000

I fully agree with you about Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians


38 posted on 06/20/2014 11:15:02 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s from an individual name, Chief Blackhawk. He was Fox or Sauk tribe, I believe. He was, presumably a brave man, so a good choice as a Symbol for a very masculine team sport.

Conservative blacks will not be offended by the name, but certain litigious scab pickers might be offended by the first part of Chief Blackhawk’s name.

Abraham Lincoln, who unlike the current occupant of the White House, served in Military, fought in the Blackhawk wars. He stopped overnight at a spring near Whitewater Wisconsin and his horse was stolen. He had to walk all the way back to Salem Illinois.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 7:41:48 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: ConservativeStatement

The African-American Hawks would be more a more sensitive name.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 7:46:14 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: smokingfrog
Blackhawk is a tribal name, is it not?

No, it is a personal name.

In fact it is a translation of a personal name.

They will have to change the name back to the actual name. So they will now be known as the "Chicago Ma-ka-tai-me-she-kia-kiak".

41 posted on 06/20/2014 7:57:11 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: ConservativeStatement

42 posted on 06/22/2014 11:52:30 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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