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Blackhawks name hasn't been as controversial as Redskins
Chicago Tribune ^ | June 18, 2014 | John Keilman

Posted on 06/20/2014 7:10:32 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

The Chicago Blackhawks declined to comment about the Washington Redskins’ loss of trademark protection Wednesday, but an expert said there’s little reason to believe the hockey team’s name and Indian head logo could face similar jeopardy.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office found in a 2-to-1 decision that trademarks covering the Redskins’ name and associated symbols disparaged American Indians, and thus must be canceled under federal law. The team vowed to appeal, noting it had won a similar legal case a decade ago.

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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: blackhawks; logo; names; redskins
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To: babble-on
**They should change their name to the Hogs...***

Already taken. GO HOGS!


21 posted on 06/20/2014 7:42:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I would guess it would be discussed and reasonable people can determine the proper course of action.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 7:42:10 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: smokingfrog
Not really.

While there was no doubt more than one Black Hawk, the most famous is a chief of the Sauk tribe who fought the US in and around IL. A. Lincoln was in the IL militia during this war.

23 posted on 06/20/2014 7:45:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If that were to happen then people in the relevant community would have to decide what they think about the matter and then make the best decision they are capable of. Just because something has been one way for a long time doesn’t mean it has to always be that way. The Washington Redskins team name is not in the Ten Commandments or the Bill of Rights. It’s just a stupid nickname (as are all team nicknames when you think about it) for a business entity representing the capital city of the country.

If the Munich, Germany soccer team were to change its name to the Hook-nosed Moneylending Christ-killers, do you think people would be offended? I do. I am Jewish which is why I am using these metaphors, because they resonate for me personally, and by analogy I can see how an American Indian would be offended by the Redskins, but much less so by the Blackhawks. (Chief Wahoo, on the other hand.......)


24 posted on 06/20/2014 7:46:12 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

Change the name to the African American Hawks.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 7:47:24 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: smokingfrog

Denver 420’s.


26 posted on 06/20/2014 7:48:14 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ConservativeStatement

I find blackskins, pinkskins, yellowskins and redskins to be in bad taste where I find blackhawks, seminoles, indians, etc. to be fine.

I think is comes from old expressions like “skin the bastard alive.”


27 posted on 06/20/2014 7:51:20 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: babble-on
a “savage” enemy that we tried hard to exterminate for a century.

That they were savage is a fact. Regardless of how un-PC it is to say so today. Or, if you wish to dispute the term, you'll have to come up with a definition of "non-savage" that allows for routinely torturing captured enemies to death, which most tribes practiced.

It is factually incorrect to say "we tried hard to exterminate (them) for a century."

US policy wavered, but generally was aimed at assimilating Indians, not exterminating them. Of course, you can get around that by calling it "cultural genocide." When Indians were moved onto reservations, we fed them, however poorly the policy was implemented in many cases. Not exactly something you do with people you are determined to exterminate.

That physical extermination was never routine US policy can by seen by the fact that they weren't exterminated, when doing so was easily within US capabilities.

To look at an actual policy of extermination, you might want to google the Indian Wars of Argentina. They DID have a policy of extermination, and Argentina doesn't really have an Indian problem today. Because they mostly don't have any Indians.

28 posted on 06/20/2014 7:53:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: smokingfrog
Blackhawk is a tribal name, is it not?

Last year the NCAA did away with the "Fighting Sioux," but had no problem with keeping the "Fighting Irish."

29 posted on 06/20/2014 8:03:24 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: Yorlik803
Vikings were the first oppressors of Native Americans

Soon to be in your kids textbooks - LOL !!!

30 posted on 06/20/2014 8:05:18 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: 11th_VA

the Fighting Irish it could be pointed out, were so named by fighting Irishmen


31 posted on 06/20/2014 8:08:25 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

The Green Bay Packers are next.


32 posted on 06/20/2014 8:09:56 AM PDT by MCH
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To: ConservativeStatement
I heard that the term Red Skin refers to a name given to certain Indians in the early 1700’s. They were called that because they painted their faces in red paint. Other tribes also referred to them as the Red Skins. So I guess all of the fans who color their faces at ball games are prejudice bastards.
33 posted on 06/20/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by jetson
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To: babble-on
sorry I do not buy your derogatory name theory..

If you look at the name and logo of the Washington Redskins vs the name and logo of the Cleveland Indians..

the Indian's logo is far more offensive

..a “little Sambo” type logo

vs the Redskins logo which is almost a Noble monument type logo similar to the Indian Head nickel

People that go out to find things to be offended by are sad.

I'm handicapped, arm amputee, if I went around finding offense at everything I could, I'd have no life

34 posted on 06/20/2014 8:35:23 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: ConservativeStatement

black panters?


35 posted on 06/20/2014 8:49:54 AM PDT by californian by choice
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To: babble-on; ConservativeStatement
Redskins is not the neutral name of a tribe, or a generic group of people, it’s a derogatory term for a “savage” enemy that we tried hard to exterminate for a century.

Huh? Redskins is a generic moniker -- all mascots are -- it's kind of the point. Certain North American tribes were "savage". And, you shouldn't judge "savage" as if it were necessarily a bad thing given the environment they thrived in. And "exterminate" ... I don't recall the Trail of Tears ending in a Nazi shower.


36 posted on 06/20/2014 8:55:42 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: smokingfrog

The way the Redskins have been playing, there name should be “Lesshawks” instead of “Mohawks.”


37 posted on 06/20/2014 10:07:25 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: tophat9000

I fully agree with you about Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians


38 posted on 06/20/2014 11:15:02 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s from an individual name, Chief Blackhawk. He was Fox or Sauk tribe, I believe. He was, presumably a brave man, so a good choice as a Symbol for a very masculine team sport.

Conservative blacks will not be offended by the name, but certain litigious scab pickers might be offended by the first part of Chief Blackhawk’s name.

Abraham Lincoln, who unlike the current occupant of the White House, served in Military, fought in the Blackhawk wars. He stopped overnight at a spring near Whitewater Wisconsin and his horse was stolen. He had to walk all the way back to Salem Illinois.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 7:41:48 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: ConservativeStatement

The African-American Hawks would be more a more sensitive name.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 7:46:14 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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