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Supermassive Black Hole Shows Strange Gas Movements
universetoday.com ^ | June 20, 2014 | Elizabeth Howell on

Posted on 06/20/2014 9:25:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Sometimes it takes a second look — or even more — at an astronomical object to understand what’s going on. This is what happened after astronomers obtained this image of NGC 5548 using the Hubble Space Telescope in 2013. While crunching the data, they saw some gas moving around the galaxy in a way that they did not understand.

From the supermassive black hole embedded in the galaxy’s heart, the researchers detected gas moving outward quite quickly — blocking about 90% of the X-rays being emitted from the black hole, a common feature of objects of this type. So, astronomers marshalled a bunch of telescopes to figure out the answer.

Here’s what they knew before: black holes force matter into a spiral that surround the object, creating a flat plane of material known as an accretion disc. Heating in this disc sends out the aforementioned X-rays as well as some ultraviolet radiation. But NGC 5548 is doing something different.

(Excerpt) Read more at universetoday.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: ngc5548; stringtheory

1 posted on 06/20/2014 9:25:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

How does time react in a black hole? If not even light can escape, then it must warp time and space, so does that mean like a minute of our time would equal an infinite amount of time in a black hole?


2 posted on 06/20/2014 9:34:26 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: BenLurkin
There’s something out there...and it’s farting.
3 posted on 06/20/2014 9:36:06 PM PDT by RichInOC ("More beans, Mr. Taggart?" "I'd say you've had enough.")
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To: BenLurkin

Man knows one tenth of one percent of nothing, and we are not getting smarter, never mind common sense. In the future this will be irrelevant.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 9:42:41 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: BenLurkin

Oh I thought this was talking about Obama’s ass.


5 posted on 06/20/2014 9:45:54 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: BenLurkin
I never noticed that before.


6 posted on 06/20/2014 9:46:38 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: BenLurkin
"Supermassive Black Hole Shows Strange Gas Movements"


7 posted on 06/20/2014 9:49:12 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I went to a planetarium show with my family not too long ago. The “astronomer” opined at the beginning that the laws of physics break down as you approach and cross the event horizon. He then went on to tell us that time freezes at the event horizon so you could actually watch the universe age and pass away there. Uh, dude... you already said the laws of physics break down... put away the equation and picture matter and energy screaming its way to a superdense core, not hanging out watching the universe go by.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 9:54:22 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

I think the little boy on the right visited the event horizon! He's just watching the universe go right on by.
9 posted on 06/20/2014 10:12:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: BenLurkin
Supermassive Black Hole Shows Strange Gas Movements

I didn't read the article, but is this another one of those cheap shots at America's film maker, Michael Moore?

10 posted on 06/20/2014 10:27:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
How does time react in a black hole? If not even light can escape, then it must warp time and space, so does that mean like a minute of our time would equal an infinite amount of time in a black hole?

You are pretty close to the truth. A black hole, I believe, is that region of space where time obtains a value of zero. In other words time stops. Assuming you could get inside the event horizon without getting ripped apart (you can't), you would never know it because you would never leave that instant in time.

11 posted on 06/20/2014 10:35:42 PM PDT by lafroste (matthewharbert.wix.com/matthew-harbert)
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To: pgyanke
Outside of the event horizon and at the boundary the laws of physics still obtain. [And actually, the statement that the laws of physics "break down" inside the Schwarzild Radius is empirically false: we do not know that they break down, and based on what we are able to surmise, some laws inside appear to be preserved.] As you near the event horizon from outside of the Schwarzild Radius, time slows down very rapidly, and when you reach the event horizon time stops altogether. Unfortunately, the tidal forces [difference in gravitational attraction] near the event horizon are so enormous that no observer could survive the experience.
12 posted on 06/20/2014 10:46:54 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: BenLurkin

13 posted on 06/20/2014 11:19:12 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: lafroste

“Assuming you could get inside the event horizon without getting ripped apart (you can’t), “

Spaghettification.


14 posted on 06/21/2014 12:28:13 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: BenLurkin

Some of the butter on the lobster might have gone rancid?


15 posted on 06/21/2014 1:16:58 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: BenLurkin

NGC 5548 is 245 million light years away.


16 posted on 06/21/2014 4:00:55 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: lafroste

Time would appear to move normal to the space traveler, but slowed to the observer.


17 posted on 06/21/2014 4:30:04 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

If the traveler were somehow able to break free of the event horizon and return to Earth, he would find that the Earth and likely the entire solar system are gone - vaporized in a super nova millions of years prior to his return...


18 posted on 06/21/2014 4:34:51 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: UnwashedPeasant

darn it...you beat me to it!


19 posted on 06/21/2014 4:35:26 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Flotus has flatus?


20 posted on 06/21/2014 5:49:03 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: FredZarguna
As you near the event horizon from outside of the Schwarzild Radius, time slows down very rapidly, and when you reach the event horizon time stops altogether.

Sorry. Don't buy it. By the time you reach the event horizon, you are screaming like a bat out of hell toward a very unpleasant coupling with a singularity. The fact that we believe time stops shows that the equations just don't work here. I know, I know... you must have light in order to have time. Got it... but just because light has been stopped in its tracks doesn't mean you are.

21 posted on 06/22/2014 7:48:50 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
By the time you reach the event horizon, you are screaming like a bat out of hell toward a very unpleasant coupling with a singularity.

The tidal forces have already pulled you apart thousands of miles from the event horizon.

The fact that we believe time stops shows that the equations just don't work here.

It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of science. And saying that equations that predict a result therefore "don't work" is manifest, self-contradictory nonsense. The equations predict the presence of singularities, and they predict what happens in the near vicinity, including the event horizon.

I know, I know... you must have light in order to have time.

This statement is more nonsense. You don't need to have light in order to have time.

Got it... but just because light has been stopped in its tracks doesn't mean you are.

All you've "got" is a very confused idea of what General Relativity says happens at the event horizon of a black hole. No light is required, and the field equations do NOT "break down." General Relativity describes gravitational attraction as a geometric phenomenon, and that geometry applies to light, neutrinos, gauge bosons, or any other matter or field in space.

22 posted on 06/22/2014 9:46:06 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: BenLurkin

I’d throw a “like” on here if we had it.


23 posted on 06/22/2014 11:16:41 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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Thanks BenLurkin.


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24 posted on 06/22/2014 7:19:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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