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Is Hillary Clinton’s conduct as a young attorney fair game?
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | June 20, 2014 | Jonathan H. Adler

Posted on 06/22/2014 8:54:57 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

Successfully defending a criminal defendant is nothing for Clinton to be ashamed of, so long as her conduct was ethical.

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If Republican politicians, even Republican females like Sarah Palin, can be lambasted (or in Sarah Palin's case completely and utterly savaged) in the media, the Hillary's past as a young attorney is COMPLETELY FAIR GAME. But, as we know, the media will protect Hillary from attack in 2016 like they did The Marxist Moslem Messiah in 2008.
1 posted on 06/22/2014 8:54:57 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic
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To: right-wing agnostic

obama and wife were both either disbarred or turned in their licenses, why can’t we know why


2 posted on 06/22/2014 8:56:37 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: right-wing agnostic

I would think a “successful ‘defense’” of someone who is guilty requires a breach of ethics.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 8:57:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: right-wing agnostic
President George W Bush's forgotten DUI as a very young man seemed to be fair game. In fact, morphed him into a full blown alcoholic.
4 posted on 06/22/2014 8:59:40 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: right-wing agnostic

Romney was beat up for High School stuff, why not get on her for getting fired from the Watergate team and this young girl’s rape case. Pour it on, be careful about being perceived as a Bully like they turned it on Rick Lazio


5 posted on 06/22/2014 8:59:47 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: right-wing agnostic

Big “bump” to your post.

Welcome to FR.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 9:00:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: mortal19440

C’mon. The standards are different for Progressives since they are doing “the right thing.”


7 posted on 06/22/2014 9:02:09 AM PDT by MRourke85
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Hillary’s entire past will come to haunt her if she decides to run for the office of POTUS...

she ran once and lost..she will lose a second run as well...and personally as a woman of 71...Hillary is too old for the work involved...she is lazy, physically and spoiled beyond means. Plus not as well liked as she seems to think she is...

this Nation and world is in terrible condition and it will take a powerful person to begin the clean up....and TED CRUZ has that ability...

REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE TO FLIP THE SENATE.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 9:03:01 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: right-wing agnostic
Everything about the Democrats is off limits. The media would be outraged if you tried to "go there" -- no matter where "there" is.

In other news, Ted Cruz may have a cousin who returned a library book late back in the 70s. Obviously, Cruz is unfit for office.

9 posted on 06/22/2014 9:03:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: right-wing agnostic
HELL YES!!!
10 posted on 06/22/2014 9:06:54 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: right-wing agnostic

The information should be put out there. It is not this writer’s call on whether or not it is relevant. That is up to the voters. He can say that it is not relevant to him, but the fact he writes for the WaPo establishes that.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 9:08:25 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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Sorry, he doesn’t write for the WaPO.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 9:10:21 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

And .. what about the high school “bullying” story the left brought out about Romney ..???


13 posted on 06/22/2014 9:11:41 AM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: haircutter
I agree on Hillary not getting elected. However, she'll actually be 69 on election day in 2016, the same age that Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980. However, Hillary will be a much "older" 69 than Reagan, who actually managed to present a vigorous and youthful image during the 1980 campaign. Hillary will just be a washed-up old bag, spoiled by privilege and dogged by her record - which is not all that impressive at all.

I know many here will not like to hear it but if it looks like Hillary will be nominated, Mitt Romney will get into the race and if nominated, he will win. Mitt's camp knows that. So if we are going to put up a non-Romney candidate, it's time to get started now.

14 posted on 06/22/2014 9:12:13 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: right-wing agnostic
Is Hillary Clinton’s conduct as a young attorney fair game?

Hell, yes. She was fired because of "moral turpitude", and currupt actions...and refused any letter of recommendation. Clearly a window on character. Pansies, pinkos and putzes will disagree.

15 posted on 06/22/2014 9:13:20 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: right-wing agnostic
-that was all so long ago-
16 posted on 06/22/2014 9:17:41 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: right-wing agnostic
If Hillary Benghazi Clinton were a Republican, would her conduct as a young attorney fair game?
17 posted on 06/22/2014 9:17:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Starstruck
The information should be put out there. It is not this writer’s call on whether or not it is relevant.

That used to be the standard for journalists. Report the facts, and let the chips fall where they may. This helped keep Americans informed, and free.

But today every story must go through filters. Non-PC stories are buried. Stories that democrats look bad are buried.

18 posted on 06/22/2014 9:18:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SamAdams76
it looks like Hillary will be nominated, Mitt Romney will get into the race and if nominated, he will win

Now that's an interesting prediction, to be sure. From what I saw in 2012, Mittens enjoyed running for president, but he didn't actually want to be president. So maybe I disagree with your very last prediction.

19 posted on 06/22/2014 9:22:42 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

I still remember Mrs. Clinton’s shrinking violet act when mild-mannered Rick Lazio confronted her to sign a pledge not accept soft money in debate their 2000 debate for the US senate. Every since, Republicans are accused of waging a war on women. The Clintons will do it with this issue too and the clapping seal media will applaud.


20 posted on 06/22/2014 9:24:19 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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https://twitter.com/AuthorAE/status/466987846503378944/photo/1


21 posted on 06/22/2014 9:31:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Mitt Romney’s prep-school pranks and vacation details were fair game.

So is any bit of Hillary!’s record. .


22 posted on 06/22/2014 9:32:27 AM PDT by Salgak
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To: right-wing agnostic

Sure, why not? She is nothing special. Just another corrupt and incompetent politician.


23 posted on 06/22/2014 9:32:29 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: haircutter

I’m watching John Kerry attempting to project an effective SOS with gravitas. It ain’t working - but I truly believe he will take on Hilary for POTUS nominee.

Cruz will crucify him.

Cruz & Allen West would be a ticket to freedom.


24 posted on 06/22/2014 9:33:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Leaning Right

I completely agree with you.

BOTH of our last two presidential candidates on the Republican side, have fought (desperately at times) to beat every one of their (Republican) rivals.

Then BOTH of them, once opposed by Barack Obama, quieted right now and didn’t run against him, with anywhere near the same determination. In fact, it was almost as if both of them, lost on purpose.

McCain did a great thing in picking Palin as his running mate in 2008. Other than that, I cannot think of why I would conclude they hadn’t both deliberately run to capture the GOP candidacy, then throw the election (almost as if on purpose) to Barack Obama.

I know that is not likely. But both of them, acted as if they really did not want to beat Obama nearly as badly, as they wanted to with the GOP candidacy.

To heck with the GOP if that is how we end up running people.

I say we keep a very clear eye on Palin, and I think she should run (against) the GOP in 2016.

I know a lot of people here disgree with that, but I’m all in favor of a Palin insurgency.


25 posted on 06/22/2014 9:34:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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Sarah Palin, that was one thing, but what about Sarah Palin’s daughters? That’s what they did, so forget “fair game”.


26 posted on 06/22/2014 9:35:35 AM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

McCain did a great thing in picking Palin as his running mate in 2008. Other than that, I cannot think of why I would conclude they hadn’t both deliberately run to capture the GOP candidacy, then throw the election (almost as if on purpose) to Barack Obama.


Considering the extremely poor performance of Sarah Palin’s “Handlers” and how they reacted when she “went rogue” I think Sarah’s talent caught them off guard.

She wasn’t supposed to be a good pick!


27 posted on 06/22/2014 9:37:13 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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Is Hillary Clinton’s conduct as a young attorney fair game?

Probably not. After all, Hillary's Benghazi fiasco was two years ago, dude, and it's not fair game anymore. 'RATS get a pass on everything they do.

28 posted on 06/22/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: jocon307

The MSM used more resources to investigate Sam “Joe the plumber” Wurzelbacher’s trade license than they did Baraq’s dubious birth cert. And Joe was just a guy who stumbled into an interview, LOL.


29 posted on 06/22/2014 9:39:57 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Olog-hai

Under the assumed innocent until proven guilty system, each and every criminal defendant gets to have as much of a zealous defense that they can afford while the prosecutors proceed with neither pride nor passion in their prosecution.


30 posted on 06/22/2014 9:45:36 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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Is Hillary Clinton’s conduct as a young attorney fair game?

Hillary and I are the same age. 28 in 1975 is not the same 28 as it is for many today. By age 28 I no longer thought of myself as being young. Enough had happened in my life that I was totally responsible for any decisions I made. She had been called on the carpet for actions during Watergate a couple of years earlier. Evidently that was wasted effort.

31 posted on 06/22/2014 9:49:22 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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What makes you think that the architect of "THE VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY" has changed her legal beliefs and the practices that caused her to be fired by her boss on the HOUSE NIXON IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS? A leopard cant change his spots and a scum can't change her ways!

Google Jerry Zeifman (her boss)
32 posted on 06/22/2014 9:49:37 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: SamAdams76

She did not say Hillary was 71. She was speaking about herself if al baby. could understand that oh boy


33 posted on 06/22/2014 9:51:51 AM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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If Romney's alleged conduct as a boarding school student 45 years ago is fair game then the treatment of a rape victim by Attorney Rhodham is fair game.And so is Attorney Rodham’s having been fired from the Watergate investigation team by the Rat that was in charge.
34 posted on 06/22/2014 9:52:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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35 posted on 06/22/2014 9:56:59 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Olog-hai
I would think a “successful ‘defense’” of someone who is guilty requires a breach of ethics.

...and you would be wrong. The U.S. Constitution requires that an attorney defend anyone accused of a crime, and there are many ethical ways to do so.

36 posted on 06/22/2014 9:59:19 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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She was also fired as a staffer for the Watergate investigation for he dishonesty.

Does anyone think she is any less dishonest today; or is she far worse?


37 posted on 06/22/2014 10:00:08 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: right-wing agnostic

Is there any shape that left-wing morality cannot be twisted into and made to fit?


38 posted on 06/22/2014 10:01:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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“What difference does it make?” ... She’s a democrat. Democrats are liars, thieves, anti-American lickspittlists, and degenerates. She’s a run of the mill democrat. She lies, steals, and is a degenerate. What difference does it make, demcrats will vote for her because she is one of them.


39 posted on 06/22/2014 10:06:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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The victim, who is now 52, says any such claims were untrue, that she never made accusations against anyone else, and that she believes Clinton was lying.

The victim accuses Clinton of lying in an affidavit. That should have been at the top of the article, not buried half way down. That is the shocking crux of the matter.

40 posted on 06/22/2014 10:10:07 AM PDT by DManA
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Blame the 13 year old girl for being a slut and provoking the rape and beating. While it has been used by other lawyers in other rape cases, this is the first recorded use of “Feminist” H Clinton’s “sluts and nuts” strategy. Establishes a pattern of HC’s behavior. Hell yes its fair game.


41 posted on 06/22/2014 10:26:44 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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The same huma-hummer who claimed she and her daughter were sniped at in Bosnia.

Where "Stolen Valor" is concerned, everything is fair game.

42 posted on 06/22/2014 10:53:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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Does anybody believe that if any prospective Pubbie candidate had done similar things, the media wouldn’t be headlining it every day? Of course she’s fair game. People should know what a radical Hillary was. Of course, they didn’t care that Obama was a bigtime radical, so I doubt it will change too many people’s minds.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 10:56:21 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: leprechaun9
https://twitter.com/LessGovMoreFun/status/459498975880830976/photo/1

44 posted on 06/22/2014 11:19:49 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: mortal19440

If the head of the Watergate team had followed up by doing the right thing and gotten clinton disbarred, maybe she wouldn’t have been in a position to rape the victim a second time.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 11:55:03 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: SamAdams76

Hillary’s backers are, much like her:

Burned Out Warthogs for the War On Women (BOWWOW).


46 posted on 06/22/2014 11:57:21 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

She wasn’t supposed to be a good pick.

I agree, and believe that McCain worked to undermine her by insisting on the Couric and Gibson interviews.

McCain was obama’s best secret weapon.


47 posted on 06/22/2014 12:00:24 PM PDT by DPMD
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McCain is the one who said “We have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.”


48 posted on 06/22/2014 12:13:28 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Was George W Bushs Dental Records from the Texas National Guard relevant when he ran against the Lunatic Algore?


49 posted on 06/22/2014 12:18:00 PM PDT by ballplayer
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A successful defense of someone who is guilty? One can adhere to “ethics” while getting the lowlife off the hook? The Sixth Amendment makes no allowance for that, oh no.
50 posted on 06/22/2014 1:21:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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