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iMac Performance (new low cost iMac released in June 2014)
Primate Labs ^ | 18 Jun 2014 | by John Poole

Posted on 06/22/2014 12:48:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Apple announced a new lower-cost dual-core iMac today, and Geekbench 3 results for it are already appearing on the Geekbench Browser. Let's see how the new iMac performs compared to other iMacs.

When compared to the rest of the iMac lineup, the new iMac has reasonable single-core performance — it's almost identifcal to the entry-level quad-core iMac. Multi-core performance is significantly lower due to the lower number of cores (2 cores vs 4 cores).

One interesting thing about the new iMacs is that they use a low-voltage i5-4260U "Haswell" processor (the same processor is used in the MacBook Air). Why would Apple use a low-voltage dual-core processor in a desktop machine? The answer might be graphics:

Andrew Cunningham ✔ @AndrewWrites

I'd say Apple used an Ultrabook CPU in the new iMac to avoid shipping Intel's HD 4600 GPU in anything. No desktop CPUs include HD 5000.

6:59 AM - 18 Jun 2014—from Twitter

According to Intel, the HD 5000 is twice as fast as the HD 4600. Apple may have sacrificed multi-core performance for GPU performance. Given the increasing importance modern user interfaces place on GPU performance, this may turn out to be a smart decision that extends the useful lifespan of the new iMac.

John Poole is the founder of Primate Labs and lives in Toronto, Ontario with his wife Deborah. You can find John on Twitter or Google+.


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1 posted on 06/22/2014 12:48:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
new Lowcost iMac benchmarks —PING!


Apple iMac Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 06/22/2014 12:52:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker; ShadowAce

tech ping?


3 posted on 06/22/2014 12:57:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Swordmaker

Good info there.

I just recently bought a new 27” and absolutely love it. Loaded Adobe CS Cloud and have run the most demanding applications all at the same time. Excellent performance.

I was going to get the MacBook Pro because I needed portability, but for just a little more than the price of that, I got the 27” and a MacBook Air to take care of my portability issues. Not a bad deal, I think. And I’m very happy to be back in the Mac world.


4 posted on 06/22/2014 1:07:04 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: ShadowAce

I have a generic tech question....

can apple IOS be installed on a generic tablet??


5 posted on 06/22/2014 1:08:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
can apple IOS be installed on a generic tablet??

Nope. iOS expects to see certain hardware (CPU, periphery chips, & how they're integrated etc.) and certain firmware (ROMs) in order to boot.

"Generic" tablets can even have different CPU architectures entirely! Right now iOS is all ARM based (but this, technically, could change).

6 posted on 06/22/2014 1:20:26 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: GeronL

The short answer would be “no”.


7 posted on 06/22/2014 1:21:22 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Swordmaker

Low cost? What is the price of this new jewel?

My 17” MBP is getting “long in the tooth” — but it serves 95% of the time as desktop. Offloading most of that load onto an iMac — and using the MBP for portability when needed — just might make sense...

Thanks!


8 posted on 06/22/2014 1:24:40 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple makes new low-end 1.4GHz iMac official with $1,099 starting price

Breaking By AppleInsider Staff
Apple on Wednesday formally launched its anticipated new low-end 21.5-inch iMac with a lower entry price of $1,099, boasting a 1.4-gigahertz dual-core Intel Core i5 CPU, a 500-gigabyte hard drive, and 8 gigabytes of RAM.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 1:27:14 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Apple makes new low-end 1.4GHz iMac official with $1,099 starting price

Not worth the money. I built an 8 Core AMD FX-8350 w/32gb memory, SSD, 2TB hard disk and a GEForce GTX660 Overclocked for $800 and it'll run circles around that iMac.

I LOVE my iPad and I'm getting an iPhone 5S soon. I'm a fan of apple products -- having said that there's no reason for an iMac with such low technical specifications to cost over $1k, especially now that they're using Intel processors.

The value add from Apple is in the OS and how easily Apple's other products integrate together. Their PC/Laptop Hardware technically speaking, isn't worth the premium Apple places on it.

Just my .02 worth.

10 posted on 06/22/2014 1:34:07 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Apple makes new low-end 1.4GHz iMac official with $1,099 starting price

Not worth the money. I built an 8 Core AMD FX-8350 w/32gb memory, SSD, 2TB hard disk and a GEForce GTX660 Overclocked for $800 and it'll run circles around that iMac.

I LOVE my iPad and I'm getting an iPhone 5S soon. I'm a fan of apple products -- having said that there's no reason for an iMac with such low technical specifications to cost over $1k, especially now that they're using Intel processors.

Certain Apple consumers will get very suspicious if they are not paying Apple's customary high tariff. They expect to and get a sense of well being from doing so. A heaping dose of ego-affirmation. Not talking about you. I am talking about the young urban hip crowd. Who are their target demographic.....who tend to be unimaginative clonish conformist consumers even as they think they are beyond cool.

11 posted on 06/22/2014 1:51:47 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: GeronL
can apple IOS be installed on a generic tablet??

No.

12 posted on 06/22/2014 2:16:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

lol. Why not?


13 posted on 06/22/2014 2:18:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TXnMA
Low cost? What is the price of this new jewel?

$1099 — $200 less than the previous low end iMac.

14 posted on 06/22/2014 2:19:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Yossarian

Thank You. Is there something that would keep another company from producing a tablet that would be similar enough to “fool” the OS?


15 posted on 06/22/2014 2:20:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Swordmaker

I can’t use a Mac. I’m a heterosexual.


16 posted on 06/22/2014 2:22:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: GeronL

Install Linux. It’s the same darn thing.


17 posted on 06/22/2014 2:22:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

lolz


18 posted on 06/22/2014 2:22:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: AppyPappy

True. Android is just fine for a tablet.


19 posted on 06/22/2014 2:23:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks! That might beat stepping down to a new MBP with a smaller screen — especially for this old codger with failing vision...


20 posted on 06/22/2014 2:28:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: AppyPappy

Real men aren’t afraid to use a Mac.


21 posted on 06/22/2014 2:40:22 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: GeronL; AppyPappy
Thank You. Is there something that would keep another company from producing a tablet that would be similar enough to “fool” the OS?

While this has been done with Mac OS (some users create machines known as "Hackintoshes"), it would be extremely difficult to do that with iOS.

First, the hardware used in tablet or smartphone platforms is HIGHLY customized, with low odds of a component merely being "generic" enough where Apple's drivers are easily fooled.

Second, ever since the first few iPhones, Apple makes a customized version of the ARM microprocessor. So the iOS may very well try to execute instructions, that on a more generic ARM processor, just aren't there.


Finally, regarding Linux: I run and develop software for Mac OS X, iOS, Windows, and Linux. NO, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

While I appreciate many things about Linux, the fact is, that after you have an initial operating system install, if you go to update either the OS, or a piece of software that didn't originally come with the platform, problems crop up left, right, up, and down. New/Updated software might require a newer version of some-or-such library in the operating system. Updating that library suddenly breaks other critical software.

Get a new piece of hardware? Good luck finding a linux that supports everything on your hardware, completely, properly, and bug free!

(I've been battling a lot of Linux issues the past few months....)

22 posted on 06/22/2014 2:50:49 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Swordmaker
$1099 — $200 less than the previous low end iMac.

Not nearly low enough. I think it's a $900 computer, tops. $850, really....

23 posted on 06/22/2014 2:52:07 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Swordmaker

> According to Intel, the HD 5000 is twice as fast as the HD 4600. Apple may have sacrificed multi-core performance for GPU performance.

That’s interesting. If Apple’s serious about moving production back into the US, it’ll need to tend to its margins on the low end, rather than on the high end. Smart move.


24 posted on 06/22/2014 3:09:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Yossarian

I bought a USB mouse, works fine on Linux but not on Windows without a new driver.


25 posted on 06/22/2014 4:01:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: AppyPappy

Very funny.


26 posted on 06/22/2014 9:28:31 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: AppyPappy
I can’t use a Mac. I’m a heterosexual.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 9:44:05 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Yossarian
Not nearly low enough. I think it's a $900 computer, tops. $850, really....

You are not the one being targeted. Apple figured out years ago there are about a million times more users than there are geeks, so they tend to try and sell to the non geek.

28 posted on 06/22/2014 11:23:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Swordmaker

You can’t upgrade the ram. 1.4 i5? Not here.

I am a huge OSX fan. With my legally “purchased” download of Mavericks I am running a CustoMac with i7 3.5 16gb ram (upgradeable to 32) and the speed & comfort of SATA 3 connections and a slot to add a thunderbird card. I have all I need for $750.00

I think Apple lost their minds with this particular iMac.


29 posted on 06/23/2014 9:43:27 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman
I am a huge OSX fan. With my legally “purchased” download of Mavericks I am running a CustoMac with i7 3.5 16gb ram (upgradeable to 32) and the speed & comfort of SATA 3 connections and a slot to add a thunderbird card. I have all I need for $750.00

You haven't "legally" purchased OSX Mavericks if you are running it on anything except an Apple Branded Macintosh computer.

1: Apple never SELLS OSX upgrades and, in fact, never has.

2: OSX Mavericks Itself is included only in conjunction with the sale of an Apple Macintosh brand computer and is licensed to be used only on that computer.

3: OSX Mavericks upgrade is not for sale and is ONLY downloadable through the Apple OSX App Store, which is supposed to be accessible only to legitimately licensed Apple OSX computers. Any other access would be a form of identity theft.

4: OSX upgrades are only licensed as an extension of the original OSX license that was included in the original installation on legitimately purchased original Apple Macintosh Computers.

5: That OSX license is attached to that computer and may not be transferred to another computer or cloned for use on another computer.

Ergo, no matter how much you try to justify your illegal actions, you have NOT "legally" downloaded, or "purchased" OSX Mavericks for use on your FrankenMac. You are, TheStickman, stealing copyrighted, intellectual property that is not yours to use.

May I suggest you READ the OSX.9 Mavericks Software License and actually understand how wrong your statement is. . . how Obamaesque it is?

You claim to be a "huge OSX fan" but you refuse to reward the people who have put in the hard work to develop OSX and continue to do so. Instead, you give them the finger and steal their work! Do you realize how many billions of dollars Apple has invested in what you blithely claim to have "purchased" (wink, wink)? I have not an ounce of respect for you or your piece of junk computer. . . especially when you sit there and denigrate there pricing because YOU think it's not worth what they ask for it. . . so you steal it instead of paying for it! BAH!

Will Apple go after you? No. Not unless you start manufacturing your CustoMacs and selling them to your friends. Apple hasn't particularly cared what the Geeks were doing as a hobby. . . but just don't try to grow it into a business as a company called Psystar attempted about five years ago . . . unless you really want to know what it feels like to have a legal A bomb land on your head. Psystar had to pay huge damages and attempt to retrieve every Mac clone they sold (not too successful in that endeavor), as well as handing over all profits to Apple (there were none left). All that plus hundreds of thousands in legal costs forced them into bankruptcy.

Psystar tried that "legally purchased" routine, too. . . shipping an upgrade copy of OSX Leopard with their Mac compatible boxes for their customers to "install themselves." The federal judges, both at trial and appellate levels, found Apple's license wording perfectly legal. . . and ruled Psystar's assumption that its customers, because they bought the OSX, COULD "legally" install OSX themselves was okie dokie was NOT legal! Seems to be the same thing you seem to think.

30 posted on 06/23/2014 10:58:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

(Sigh) Such a bogus argument, Swordmaker.

I did legally download from the Apple store a valid copy of Mavericks. I did so on a Mac Mini.

Leopard was a free upgrade? Nope. Snow Leopard? Nope. My 1st Macbook had Tiger on it so I can’t go back further. Was Lion free? Nope. Mountain Lion? Nope.

I’ve done nothing illegal. Sheesh. You’re overreaction reminds me of some of the in-artful discussions of Mac Vs PC. I’ve spent thousands of dollars on Macs. Owned iMac, 2 White Macbooks (still have one), 2 Mini’s, and a Timecapsule which is working just fine.

I needed a new studio computer. I built one. I put OSX on it because IMO Windows 7 & 8.1 is a fail for music creation. I didn’t have the $$$ to purchase a new Mac of similar power and upgradeability.

I’m not Psystar. I’ll never have the $$$ they paid lawyers to lose for them lol.

I’m a guy trying to run a music studio out of his home & make a buck. If/when I can afford a equally upgradeable and powerful Mac, I will buy it as I have in the past. Till then rock on, Swordmaker.


31 posted on 06/24/2014 6:29:34 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Yossarian
Not nearly low enough. I think it's a $900 computer, tops. $850, really....

Are you including the display and OS license?

32 posted on 06/24/2014 6:35:03 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom

Yup.


33 posted on 06/24/2014 6:40:44 AM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Swordmaker

Wow... you need to just take a step back and breath. I know the internet is serious business, but wow.


34 posted on 06/24/2014 8:28:54 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: TheStickman
Stickman, it is NOT a bogus argument and I know you aren't Psystar.and Apple doesn't go after hobbyists. I said that, but you are operating your Mac clone in violation of the license. Four federal judges said you, and all such people installing OSX on non-Apple hardware, are in the Psystar case when Psystar said they were not violating the license because they were including a legitimately "purchased" copy of OSX with each computer they sold.

You may have legally downloaded Mavericks on your Mac Mini but you broke your license contract with Apple when you installed it on a non-Apple computer. That is explicitly not a permitted use under the license. . . and you don't own that software. Apple does. The Federal judges agreed that was the case.

With a little patience and searching your $800 could have bought a used MacPro with dual quad core Intel Xeon processors expandable to 128GB, slots for any card you need, four hot swappable internal hard drive bays, and guaranteed OSX Mavericks compatibility that doesn't break the license agreement. I saw a 2010 model on Craig's list just three weeks ago with 16Gb of RAM and 4 TB of drive space for $1000. I bought a similar one in January for $1000 with only a 1 TB drive with Mavericks installed for my office.

I'm glad you will upgrade to a Mac when you can afford it.

35 posted on 06/24/2014 12:45:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: miliantnutcase
Wow... you need to just take a step back and breath. I know the internet is serious business, but wow.

It has nothing to do with "Internet" but a LOT to do with conservatives not being hypocrites about the rule of legitimate law. . . especially Constitutional Law. We can't just give it lip service and pick and choose what we like and ignore what we don't. Copyrights and patents are specifically protected in the Constitution. . . and the owners of The IP gets to say how their property is licensed for use.

36 posted on 06/24/2014 1:29:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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