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United States V Portugal thread - 6pm EDT (3pm PDT) ESPN

Posted on 06/22/2014 1:05:04 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: luvbach1

Will it be ABC? I can’t find the listing. Thanks. yes! 3 PM


41 posted on 06/22/2014 2:40:35 PM PDT by KalaSamy
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To: Dagnabitt

“Portugal is a one-man show, but that’s often enough for them. Hopefully the drubbing against Germany has affected them for the worse.”

The one-man shows never do well in the World Cup; double or triple coverage neutralizes them, and then the rest of the team (in Portugal’s case, not much) has to fend for itself.

Germany showed what the Portuguese team together was capable of...


42 posted on 06/22/2014 2:41:54 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: al_c

“A 50% Ronaldo is dangerous.”

Guess the Germans never got the message; Ronaldo is dangerous in league play because he is surrounded by top talent, and now he isn’t.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 2:43:19 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kabar
Say whatever you want, when the Ballon D'Or has come around, who has been winning it? So these are general perceptions and conventional wisdom. Have any of the players you mentioned won the Ballon D'Or? No they haven't. Thank you. No one besides Ronaldo or Messi have won it since Kaka, quite a number of years ago won it.
44 posted on 06/22/2014 2:47:14 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: kearnyirish2

And Thomas Muller took a dive in that game. Something not to forget as well.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 2:48:20 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Perdogg
Go USA, after Portugal, let's dump Germany out of the World Cup as the Germans did with help of a handball back in 2002.
46 posted on 06/22/2014 2:50:52 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

“And Thomas Muller took a dive in that game. Something not to forget as well.”

Granted; Germany just embarrassed them 3-0 then.

Portugal is not a top-tier team; the US isn’t either.


47 posted on 06/22/2014 2:51:52 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Germany sure didn’t beat Ghana did they?


48 posted on 06/22/2014 2:55:31 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: kearnyirish2

Don’t forget about Nani.


49 posted on 06/22/2014 2:59:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

The Ballon D’Or awarded only started in 2010. Iniesta was a runner-up and a third. Xavi was third twice. Stikers have an advantage.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 3:01:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: dfwgator

How about ‘dem apples.... early on, long game. Portugal has looked good but 5 minutes gone only.


51 posted on 06/22/2014 3:04:41 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: kabar

1-0 portugal


52 posted on 06/22/2014 3:04:57 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: kabar

THAT sucked. USA looks slow.


53 posted on 06/22/2014 3:04:59 PM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Explorer89

Cameron’s clearance was pathetic. Ridiculous defending.


54 posted on 06/22/2014 3:06:24 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Portugal is the number 4 team in the world according to FIFA rankings.


55 posted on 06/22/2014 3:07:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

My Friend, I think you are correct that all the players you mentioned are great, I only said what the announcers on TV repeated, Ronaldo was World Player of the Year, Gareth Bale may well get one in the future.

http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/players/a/Ballon-D-Wouldor-Winners.htm

Looks like from this webpage, they have given out the Ballon D’or for many years. Maybe they changed the name or something.

2000
1st Luis Figo (Portuguese, Real Madrid)
2nd Zinedine Zidane (French, Real Madrid)
3rd Andriy Shevchenko (Ukrainian, AC Milan)

2001
1st Michael Owen (English, Liverpool)
2nd Raul (Spanish, Real Madrid)
3rd Oliver Kahn (German, Bayern Munich)

2002
1st Ronaldo (Brazilian, Real Madrid)
2nd Roberto Carlos (Brazilian, Real Madrid)
3rd Oliver Kahn (German, Bayern Munich)

2003
1st Pavel Nedved (Czech, Juventus)
2nd Thierry Henry (French, Arsenal)
3rd Paolo Maldini (Italian, AC Milan)

2004
1st Andriy Shevchenko (Ukrainian, AC Milan)
2nd Deco (Portuguese, Barcelona)
3rd Ronaldinho (Brazilian, Barcelona)

2005
1st Ronaldinho (Brazilian, Barcelona)
2nd Frank Lampard (English, Chelsea)
3rd Steven Gerrard (English, Liverpool)

2006
1st Fabio Cannavaro (Italian, Real Madrid)
2nd Gianluigi Buffon (Italian, Juventus)
3rd Thierry Henry (French, Arsenal)

2007
1st Kaka (Brazilian, AC Milan)
2nd Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese, Manchester United)
3rd Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)

2008
1st Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese, Manchester United)
2nd Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)
3rd Fernando Torres (Spanish, Liverpool)

2009
1st Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)
2nd Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese, Real Madrid)
3rd Xavi Hernandez (Spanish, Barcelona)

FIFA Ballon d’Or

2010
1st Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)
2nd Andres Iniesta (Spanish, Barcelona)
3rd Xavi Hernandez (Spanish, Barcelona)

2011
1st Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)
2nd Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese, Real Madrid)
3rd Xavi Hernandez (Spanish, Barcelona)

2012
1st Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)
2nd Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese, Real Madrid)
3rd Andres Iniesta (Spanish, Barcelona)

2013:
1st Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese, Real Madrid)
2nd Lionel Messi (Argentinean, Barcelona)
3rd Franck Ribery (French, Bayern Munich)


56 posted on 06/22/2014 3:07:30 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Perdogg

Defensive mistake.


57 posted on 06/22/2014 3:07:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Explorer89

US is more fit. We will see what happens as the game progresses.


58 posted on 06/22/2014 3:10:41 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BeadCounter

In my mind Bradley’s problem wasn’t Altidore, it was playing too high in a style of play that was too direct. He is better centrally in my view.

And we need him helping the defense now that Cameron has gifted Portugal the lead.


59 posted on 06/22/2014 3:13:02 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Postiga out, I think he is one of the better players for Portugal.


60 posted on 06/22/2014 3:15:16 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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