Skip to comments.IRS using WINXP? and no money to upgrade
Posted on 06/23/2014 7:04:41 PM PDT by DOGHEAD
Hmmm.. The excuse given tonight at the hearings
So I do not see any way that they can administer ACA. If they cannot keep up with ms. Lerner'semail- asimple task. how could they keep up with your healthcare
So they have no excuse. If they were on Windows 8, totally understandable, but XP is fine.
... “the evil republicans cut the IRS budget so much they didn’t have adequate computer service” in 3,2,1.....
i have used xp since 2001 and my mail system never crashed. i am sure the nsa could dig up my emails if asked.
They can't arrest Lois and take her stuff, but they can arrest you and take your stuff.
A locked down XP system running on appropriate hardware and with concurrent software is just fine to do e-mail.
I believe that Lois Lerner is in violation of IRS code
301.7216 for unlawfully disclosing taxpayer info to a third party.
1 year in jail and $1,000 fine for each occurrence.
All that “bonus” money paid out wouldn’t have worked?
Yes but that $2 Billion is focused on tracking every single penny Americans spend, save, or make. Every day, every penny, all the time, with real time access.
Eventually they’ll file our taxes for us.
Lack of backups is a significantly larger security issue then running XP.
Beside they can still buy support for XP.
$2 billion just doesn’t buy what it used to.
Oh there are a significant number of laws and regulations she’s broken. IRS Regs, and Federal laws
What if you needed a heart transplant or Kidney and they lost your Email about it? Oh wait, that sounds like the VA.
It all ok though he’s going to upgrade them all to Windows 7...
I run a dozen CNC machines, plotters, inspection equipment, laser cutters, and various other shop machinery that all run on XP. Even the old laptops I have for shop computers are networked with legacy versions of high end engineering software. It all runs fine. I have had exactly 1 hard drive crash in my entire 20 year career using computers (heck I started out using old cassette tapes on a computer my pops made from a sheet of plywood). I never lost more than a couple days worth of work. I have recovered hard drives I accidentally wiped out with $20 utilities.
The IRS are liars.
I did the final security assessment for one of the state health exchanges. It involved connections to the IRS among other agencies.
There are a lot of regulations/laws they have broken, and thats not even touching the laws not involving IT security.
Bureaucratic arrogance on parade. This is a French Revolution moment.
Especially since your emails do not RESIDE on your hard drive.
Koskinen made a slip when he said “del - lost” emails of Lois Lerner. [He was starting to say “deleted emails but caught himself halfway and said
‘del - lost”.
When government employees screw up... they ask for more money and authority.
If you work in the private sector, try that on your boss the next time you screw up.
Lois Claimed the 5th after she destroyed her email’s.
They had it backed up but nobody thought to ask them to get the backup. The commish cant remember who told him that they didn’t have all of Lois’s emails. Obama said he was going to get to the bottom of it last year.
For a second there, I thought that read: WKRP in Cincinnati.
Cause Nobody in gubment would think turkey’s could seriously fly.
In the mid/late 80's and early 90's, the IRS used a certain type of Unix minicomputer (Zilog), which could run 8 - 32 serial dumb terminals. They used them to run a spreadsheet program called Microsoft Multiplan.
(Yes... at one time, Microsoft sold Unix software!)
I worked for a company that was a dealer for those minicomputers. These were getting long in the tooth technologically by the early 90's. We also got involved with a company that built computer systems using the VMEbus version of AT&T's 3B2 Unix computer systems.
So in the early 90's, the IRS wanted to replace their aging Zilog systems, but they couldn't get funding to do that. But they COULD get funding to "UPGRADE" those systems. Go figure... It's government.
So we were asked to "upgrade" their old Zilog systems, by replacing the entire guts of the system except for the case, power supply, and tape drive (LOL). It was an entirely different CPU, operating system (still Unix), memory, hard drive, and software.
But since they kept the case and tape drive (so they could use the same backup tapes, LOL!) management considered it an "upgrade"... But in reality it was an entirely new computer system.
We ended up not getting the contract because we could not figure out a way to interface the old QIC-11 (20MB) cartridge backup tape drives that the Zilog's used to work with the VMEbus.
Very interesting information.
Not a whole lot of difference here.
No, there isn’t a lot of difference - maybe just a hairstyle. But who is it?
No he’ll upgrade them to Windows ME to shortly transition to Vista.
Lets pile on, FairTaxers!
IRS is totally incompetent!
Replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!
Find out how to help us at http://www.fairtax.org.
How interesting... Zilog minis were pretty obscure even in the late ‘80’s. They made good CPUs (Z80 had a pretty nice instruction set). IBM of course was king, but the BUNCH were the dominate players (Burroughs, Univac, NCR, CDC, Honeywell), plus AT&T had the B series... then Sun came along and crushed them all.
“Especially since your emails do not RESIDE on your hard drive.”
The IRS Commissioner is saying the targeted e-mails actually DID RESIDE only on the client computer’s hard drive in most instances, because he alleges the e-mail was being erased from the e-mail server after reaching an inbox limit of about 6,000 messages. He alleges the e-mail user was required to frequently download the user’s own e-mail from the e-mail server to the e-mail client computer hard drive before the e-mail was erased from the e-mail server.
What came out in today’s testimony was how the IRS did make hard drive image backups of the e-mail server/s and deemed the cost in time and money needed to recover the lost e-mail to be too great. That argument was then dismissed by another Congressman who pointed out quite rightly that the cost of printing selected e-mail for purposes of compliance with law and regulations was about 20 million dollars per year more expensive than just buying some inexpensive hard drives for the e-mail servers and/or the client computers.
$20 million dollars more? Do they need to deforest all of south America to get enough paper?
Anyone who has dealt with government agencies and/or their requirements has tales to tell about security bordering on paranoia. No phones with cameras and no USB flash/thumb drives (Edward Snowden notwithstanding).
The Lerner HD tale is exponentially preposterous since it contradicts all written and practical rules that are common knowledge throughout federal agencies. The subsequent cosmic hard luck story is desperation of course but it requires us to believe that the same federal robots who meekly park in their assigned spaces, wear their access cards on their lanyards everywhere they go and generally behave as if they relished life in the new East Germany, suddenly ignored all IT polices and restrictions and started disseminating information to personal home computers.
Chaffetz nailed the IRS commissioner on the tape backup question and the commissioner, who is both a liar and ignorant of technology, fell back on an excuse that recovery would be ‘difficult.’
Nonsense. Recovery may take some time if you’re looking for specific things (not really if your backup procedures and logs are up to scratch) but they had months, even years for said recovery. Obviously he’s trying to have it both ways: they couldn’t recover it and when they could, it was too hard. *snif*
They weren't wildly popular, but they were decent Unix systems. They used the Z8000 CPU, which was a 16-bit CPU that had little in common with the Z80, except for the first three characters of the name, and both being made by Zilog...
They ran a version of V7 Unix with some BSD utilities included. I basically taught myself Unix, shell scripting, vi, C, etc. on these computers.
They are mentioned here in relation to the IRS use of them. Funny, the article refers to them as "small supercomputers", which is just a little exaggerated..
Eventually theyll file our taxes for us.
Agree. This is very intimidating. And after the crap the GOP-e pulled in MS, we the people are in deep poop-pooh.
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