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World Cup preview: USA vs. Germany [ESPN 12:00 EDT]
WP ^ | June 26, 2014 | Michael Caley

Posted on 06/26/2014 7:23:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

Can two defensively suspect teams settle on a needed draw? If Team USA and Germany simply equal each other’s goal tallies, both sides will go through to the knockout rounds. In most cases, it would be expected that the two sides should line up in highly defensive formations and show little adventure, committing only the minimum number of men to any attack. If both sides play defensively, the draw will come regardless of any conspiracy.

The problem is, neither side is built to play the sort of boring, unadventurous soccer such a fixture requires. American fans are well aware of the struggles of Team USA to secure a back line, and Jurgen Klinsmann has settled on a system which uses two deep-lying and mostly defensive midfielders in Jermaine Jones and Kyle Beckerman to protect that back four.

Similarly, Germany is not the Germany of soccer legend, solid and hard-working and just good enough on set pieces to score one more goal than its opponent. Instead, under Jogi Loew Germany has been transformed into one of the most innovative and exciting attacking teams in the world. Playing a 4-3-3 without any true forward, the German system arguably includes either two or three false nines. As Mario Götze, Mesut Özil or Thomas Mueller drops out of the forward position and drags a defender out of position with him, one of the others or a midfielder like Sami Khedira will see the space that opens up and make a run toward the danger zone. These runs have produced many big chances already in the tournament, and the Germans have averaged three goals per match.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: fifa; germany; soccer; teamusa; us; usa; worldcup
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1 posted on 06/26/2014 7:23:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Ann Coulter has pissed me off on many things of late...but not this:

AMERICA’S FAVORITE NATIONAL PASTIME: HATING SOCCER

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-06-25.html


2 posted on 06/26/2014 7:32:58 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 1rudeboy

What’s a “World Cup?”


3 posted on 06/26/2014 7:33:00 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Organic Panic

It’s the trophy awarded after a tournament played by soccer teams from around the world.


4 posted on 06/26/2014 7:34:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Vaquero

Yeah, I was wondering when we can go back to ripping on Ann for being in favor of amnesty. /s


5 posted on 06/26/2014 7:35:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

If Ozil has a good game, his set-up passing combined with the finishing skills of Götze and Mueller could make for a difficult game for any opponent.


6 posted on 06/26/2014 7:38:59 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ll be watching. No big fan of the sport but would love to see our guys stick it to the Germans and send a message to them and their European counterparts that we can beat them at their stupid game, and still have no “passion” for it.


7 posted on 06/26/2014 7:41:02 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Stat-boy

The US is the decided underdog in this match. Our only hope is to keep the German victory margin small. There is no way Germany loses this match.


8 posted on 06/26/2014 7:41:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Organic Panic

An trophy given to a team that wins an actual World Tourney in soccer...as opposed to the “World Series” trophy in MLB Baseball or the title of “World Champion” given to the winner of the NFL Super Bowl (both sports which I also love).


9 posted on 06/26/2014 7:43:11 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: 1rudeboy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBkbj_S3etY


10 posted on 06/26/2014 7:50:01 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m hoping for a narrow Portugal win or a draw. That way it won’t matter if we lose to Germans. We could lose 150-0 and still go to 1/16.

Ghana kicked out 2 of its best players from the team few hours ago. 1 striker (Kevin Prince Boateng) and a very skilled midfielder. Ghana win is not good for USA because the goal differential is too close. Portugal has to make up 5 goals.


11 posted on 06/26/2014 7:53:37 AM PDT by Zombie Lincoln
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To: kabar
There is no way Germany loses this match.

That's what everyone said last time we beat them.

12 posted on 06/26/2014 7:54:01 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: kabar

I don’t know. Hope springs eternal and I don’t think a draw is an unreasonable scenario.

After all, Germany drew against Ghana while USA beat them. If the Americans can just put in a good show against a heavyweight team like Germany, it will make a statement that US soccer has arrived.

If we beat the Germans, it will be the upset of the Cup.


13 posted on 06/26/2014 7:54:52 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: 1rudeboy


(It will be hard to beat Germany though...)
14 posted on 06/26/2014 7:59:41 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Stat-boy

Not too often Ozil has a “bad” game. Either way, the USMNT will have their hands full. I think the Germans could win the whole thing, but it’s been a crazy WC and anything can happen. Costa Rica?


15 posted on 06/26/2014 7:59:51 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Vaquero

This quote from Mark Twain applies to Coulter’s article to a T, “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”


16 posted on 06/26/2014 8:02:18 AM PDT by gusty
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To: MNlurker

+1 It always makes me chuckle when they present the “World Championship” to MLB teams in the “World Series”.


17 posted on 06/26/2014 8:06:28 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Zombie Lincoln

Why did Ghana kick them off?
More inner-fighting?


18 posted on 06/26/2014 8:08:20 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: 1rudeboy

Team USA does need to continue playing until the final whistle. They get a point ahead and tend to slack off — and get scored on in the final seconds.

The same thing happed several times in the NHL playoffs — one team could get ahead and slack off and get scored on in the final seconds.


19 posted on 06/26/2014 8:09:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Somebody made the claim that soccer is “globalist” on one of these threads a while back. My reaction was “well, duh,”


20 posted on 06/26/2014 8:15:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Everything is “globalist” these days. Even the sacred cow NFL has foreign players in it.


21 posted on 06/26/2014 8:28:07 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ll be watching the match with more than casual interest, obviously rooting for the US… Sort of a hobby has been capturing action shots from these events, hopefully there will be some good ones to record (including American goals ;) It’s been tough to find a lot worthwhile IMO – more than bloody head-knocks & inci[sor]dental contact.


22 posted on 06/26/2014 8:32:17 AM PDT by mikrofon (Go USA! Bump)
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To: Zombie Lincoln
I’m hoping for a narrow Portugal win or a draw. That way it won’t matter if we lose to Germans. We could lose 150-0 and still go to 1/16.

A narrow Portugal win, plus a blow out against the USA will send the USA home. The combined goal differential of the two games, however, has to equal six.

You're correct about the Portugal-Ghana draw. If that happens, the USA could lose by any number and it wouldn't matter.

23 posted on 06/26/2014 8:41:17 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Germany will be hard to beat but anything can happen. The pitch will be very soggy because of an enormous amount of rain which could make play more sloppy than usual.
24 posted on 06/26/2014 8:44:06 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Vaquero; All

where can I watch live stream on computer?????Can’t get Youtube.


25 posted on 06/26/2014 8:46:29 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: 1rudeboy

In a nutshell.

26 posted on 06/26/2014 8:47:17 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: 1rudeboy

They’ve had like 2 feet of ran in Recife in the last 24 hours. The city’s flooded, access to the stadium is hazardous, the pitch is a mess, and it’s still raining. If they play the match at all then a tie might well be the most likely outcome.


27 posted on 06/26/2014 8:49:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
good luck
28 posted on 06/26/2014 8:49:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dagnabitt
The whole nut (with up to 3-0 win by each team):


29 posted on 06/26/2014 8:50:15 AM PDT by Carlucci
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To: kabar

There’s a definitely chance. Germany really doesn’t care about this match, they’re advancing to the knockout round pretty much regardless (if they lose by a LOT they could be out, but that’s not going to happen). We advance on a draw or a win also, and could even advance on a loss if Portugal wins depending on margins. Now the winner of the group gets a better matchup in the first round, but that matchup isn’t really worth the risk, especially not for us, because both teams advance on a draw there’s a really good chance of both teams playing it safe. Especially if the field is bad, nobody wants star players hurt trying to win a game they didn’t need to.


30 posted on 06/26/2014 8:52:11 AM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: discostu
Hope springs eternal. I hope for a good showing by the US win, lose, or draw. We have hit high water marks in the US on fan support. This could be a tipping point combined with the changing demographics. There are 45 million foreign born in this country.

Germany is still the prohibitive favorite. I went to the German-US game in DC, which the US won, 4-3. It was the German C team. The difference in talent is enormous. But miracles happen. I just hope for a close defeat and a narrow win by Portugal.

31 posted on 06/26/2014 8:57:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar; 1rudeboy

It appears the Germans are starting their A-team against the USA.


32 posted on 06/26/2014 9:05:44 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: 1rudeboy

Note the "Don't Tread on Me" flag. I can't tell you how many soccer games I've seen this along with the Gadsden flag.

33 posted on 06/26/2014 9:06:19 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: 1rudeboy

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34 posted on 06/26/2014 9:08:29 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 1rudeboy

Lots of commentary on how Germany and USA could just play defensive game and go our with 0-0 draw so both advance. But there was one article I read that I believe sums up why that won’t happen..PRIDE. Germans are not going to play a half-assed game just to statistically qualify for the next round. They’re going to go all out and play hard.


35 posted on 06/26/2014 9:10:45 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: LoneStarGI

They’re not playing for a draw that’s for certain!


36 posted on 06/26/2014 9:12:11 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: Mr Fuji

Aggressive game from both sides, Germany obviously more in control, but I think the weather could work in USA’s favor as it makes the touch play more difficult.


37 posted on 06/26/2014 9:14:52 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Stat-boy

Still 0-0 in Portgual-Ghana game


38 posted on 06/26/2014 9:20:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Stat-boy

It sounds like the USA is starting to play better (can only listen to it right now).


39 posted on 06/26/2014 9:23:46 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: gusty

The fact that soccer is a leftist plot should be spread far and wide.


40 posted on 06/26/2014 9:27:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Mr Fuji

Portugal 1-0. Good news for US.


41 posted on 06/26/2014 9:31:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Goal for Portugal. Good. Now Ghana has to score at least 2 goals to have a chance to catch the US.


42 posted on 06/26/2014 9:31:59 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Is that if the US scores 0?


43 posted on 06/26/2014 9:32:59 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: kabar

I’ll take that right now.


44 posted on 06/26/2014 9:33:35 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: morphing libertarian

Depends. Basically, Ghana has to win and the US has to lose for Ghana to go to the next round. If the US is in a 0-0 draw, the US goes to the next round.


45 posted on 06/26/2014 9:34:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Mr Fuji

It was a self-goal by Ghana at that.


46 posted on 06/26/2014 9:35:02 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

thanx.

trying to keep up.


47 posted on 06/26/2014 9:35:37 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: dirtboy

Ouch, that hurts Ghana pretty bad. Good for us though.


48 posted on 06/26/2014 9:37:14 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: dirtboy

Ghana goal difference is now 3. And the US has scored more goals.


49 posted on 06/26/2014 9:37:47 AM PDT by kabar
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To: dirtboy

The US can lose and still go thru on goal difference depending on how bad they lose.


50 posted on 06/26/2014 9:39:21 AM PDT by kabar
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