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Archaeologists find 25 quipus at Inca site in Peru
Peru this Week ^ | June 25, 2014 | Andina

Posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Quipus where used as a form of record-keeping in Inca society, which had no written language.

A set of twenty-five well-preserved quipus were found in the archaeological complex of Incahuasi, south of Lima, Alejandro Chu, archaeologist in charge of the site reported on Tuesday.

Chu told Andina News Agency that this is a major finding as the quipus were found in warehouses or kallancas and not in a funerary context, as most discoveries in the past, “what makes us believe they were used for administrative purposes”.

According to the Peruvian archaeologist, these objects, used by the Inca empire and previous societies in the Andean region, have different sizes the longest measures 3 meters and they have multiple knotted strings of different colors.

Incahuasi or Inca house, located 29.5 kilometers south to the Cañete-Lunahuana highway- is the most important and strategic city built by the Incas in the valley of Lunahuana.

Quipus

With no written language, the Inca devised a tool for recording the movement of people and goods. A quipu is essentially a group of wool and cotton strings tied together.

The strings are dyed in many different colors, and they are joined together in many different manners and they have a wide variety and number of knots tied in them. Together the type of wool, the colors, the knots and the joins hold information that was once readable by several South American societies.

Many of these quipus were destroyed by the Spanish conquistadors in the 16th century, but approximately 200 of them dating no earlier than about 650 AD have been found.

Although archaeologists do not all agree about the function of the knotted strings, one fairly compelling argument is that the quipu was a method of record keeping.

(Excerpt) Read more at peruthisweek.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; inca; peru; quipu
Archaeologists find 25 quipus at Inca site in Peru (Photo: Andina/Hector Vinces)

Archaeologists find 25 quipus at Inca site in Peru
(Photo: Andina/Hector Vinces)

1 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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http://www.archaeology.org/news/2260-140625-peru-incahuasi-quipus


2 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

3 posted on 06/28/2014 1:48:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

An early Computer? :-)

(I bet it gets the InterNET)


4 posted on 06/28/2014 1:50:39 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: SunkenCiv

5 posted on 06/28/2014 1:54:38 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: SunkenCiv

While many cultures used “knot” accounting like this, one commonality was that they had no tolerance for anyone messing with the knots. Usually the punishment was death.

Which kind of makes you contemplate the current IRS scandal.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 1:58:35 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Incans were amazing stone cutters. Macchu picchu is a bucket-list trip indeed. The Conquistadors and the Spanish administers that followed wiped out the entire Incan Civilization. No written history = gone forever. Bummer.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 2:03:50 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: left that other site
An early Computer? :-) (I bet it gets the InterNET)

First iteration of the Affordable Care Act sign up web page??

8 posted on 06/28/2014 2:08:54 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: left that other site

Somewhere in that stored data is the lost Aztec/Inca/Mayan recipe for Long Pig.

Muslims want to rediscover it.


9 posted on 06/28/2014 2:10:50 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru

Maybe the IRS liars are actually Incas...leaving no record behind.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 2:13:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SunkenCiv

IRS to back up emails with quipus.
“Really, it’s a form of hard copy”, says IRS Head.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 2:13:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: corkoman

The megalithic walls built there have that perfect fit because the workers slid them back and forth against each other. Since the stones were basically of the same hardness, the wore each other smooth, leaving that “no knife blade between them” look. Pretty smart.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 2:14:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tet68

;’)

http://search.lycos.com/images?q=a+frayed+knot


13 posted on 06/28/2014 2:23:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh....so no mummies, huh? Bummer.

14 posted on 06/28/2014 2:24:27 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good grief. Instead of studying these pieces of old string, anthropologists should be studying why the Incas were knotting strings to communicate something, while in Europe, intellectual giants such as Plato and Aristotle had been dead for almost a thousand years.

The Romans had constructed majestic Rome on the way to conquering Europe and vast swaths of Asia and Africa about 1300 years before these knotted strings were made. Why were the indigenous people of the Americas still subsisting in Stone Age cultures, while those in China and Italy were light years ahead of them? Inquiring minds should want to know.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 2:26:52 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee
the indigenous people of the Americas
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And....In the U.S. continued to do so well into the 1890s. ( My grandmother was born in 1894).

16 posted on 06/28/2014 2:32:23 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: SunkenCiv
Quipus where used as a form of record-keeping in Inca society, which had no written language.

After all if you don't put in on a piece of paper, it isn't writing.

17 posted on 06/28/2014 2:35:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: corkoman

Is it really possible for a handful of Europeans to wipe out a culture? I doubt it. The people themselves were offered a better, more rational, and more humane worldview and embraced it willingly.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 2:36:16 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: corkoman

I really enjoy the tv shows about ancient cultures. A few are going overboard with the ETs helping them though. I do not know what to think about that especially the one the other night about finding an ancient computer and electricity in the pyramids. I need proof.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 2:43:40 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 2:45:06 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: SunkenCiv

I got some of them. My cat got bored and went into the old ladies knittin’, bag. I have to study them.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 2:46:58 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

Looks like someone’s macrame project from summer camp.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 2:52:40 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

Lol!


23 posted on 06/28/2014 2:56:20 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: wintertime

The major factor in the European conquest of the Incas were bacteria and viruses. Diseases killed a LOT more Indians than the Spanish, in fact the germs beat the Spanish to Peru, precipitating a civil war of succession that was in full swing when they arrived.

Also, the Inca, much like the Aztecs, were a relatively new and barbaric people who had conquered and were exploiting much older and more civilized peoples. They saw the arriving Europeans as an opportunity to throw off their overlords, with their small numbers meaning they were no real threat to replace them.

Big mistake on their part, as it turned out. But most of the actual overthrowing of the Aztecs and Inca was done by their rebelling subjects.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 3:18:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If they never learned to write, why would they be Incas instead of Knottas?


25 posted on 06/28/2014 3:29:34 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SunkenCiv

Talk about a fallen people. No written language?


26 posted on 06/28/2014 3:43:08 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Don Corleone; GladesGuru

LOL...

Tastes like chicken that has been left waiting in the ER too long! :-)(


27 posted on 06/28/2014 3:44:11 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: SunkenCiv

You mean...

It WASN’T “Aliens”?


28 posted on 06/28/2014 3:45:52 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: txrefugee

You opine - “ Inquiring minds should want to know.” - in your assertion that the peoples here, at the time of the conquistadors - were ignorant knot tiers compared to the brilliant minds in Europe.

Yeah - ignorant savages. that’s what the whites claimed and maintained - to back up “Manifest Destiny” aka, justification for slaughtering and confiscation.

Yet, when the conquistadors first saw the cities in Central/South America - they marveled that they surpassed any seen in their home countries at the time. (So, of course, they set about destroying it all - AND burned/destroyed their books - so we have precious little to ascertain just HOW developed they really were. Some books, however, escaped or were hidden by a priest and spirited to Europe - like the ‘Dresden Codex”

then again, there’s the mathematics - based on a system of 20 rather than 10 - and their astronomy so accurate, they were off only about 19 minutes a year - we are STILL off a full day every 4 years. (ergo: Leap Year)

They had vast and sophisticated ways to bring the yearly rains down off the mountains, traveling many miles, to furnish the towns with water, Their engineering involving the growing terraces, watering etc, are a marvel - etc -

There are many discoveries that still boggle our mind as to “how and why?”

REAL “Inquiring minds should want to know..” the hows and why’s of these things in evidence.

One might wonder “What might have been had the Europeans not been so hell bent on gold, glory and power”

http://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/civil/maya/mmc07eng.shtml


29 posted on 06/28/2014 4:22:40 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: MamaB

you say: “...about finding an ancient computer and electricity in the pyramids. I need proof.”

Well, this wasn’t found in the pyramids - however... (We are continually finding things that should make us realize that there have been sophisticated civilizations that once flourished - and were destroyed - and vast amounts of information lost, setting ‘civilization back centuries each time. One can only wonder how much knowledge was lost in the burning of the libraries of Alexandria - and one can wonder “2,000-3,000 years from now, will someone uncover evidence that was once a free country named America?”

The ancient computer -

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/ancient-computer.html


30 posted on 06/28/2014 4:31:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: SunkenCiv
Although archaeologists do not all agree about the function of the knotted strings, one fairly compelling argument is that the quipu was a method of record keeping.

They recorded how much Ovaltine the Incas drank. More! More! More! They had been told to drink more Ovaltine, and they tried, and they kept records of their feats, but in the end it was just not enough.

31 posted on 06/28/2014 4:34:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: SunkenCiv; flaglady47; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner
"Archaelogists Find 25 Quipus at Inca site in Peru"

There should be a quip in that title somewhere......

Leni

32 posted on 06/28/2014 4:55:16 PM PDT by MinuteGal (The Infernal Revenue Service - forever to be known as the BS-IRS)
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To: maine-iac7

I saw a show recently about a man trying to find the lost library of Ivan the Terrible. There have been terrible losses over the years. Someone was trying to find The Holy Grail. Some think it was a space rock. Have you heard about the Guideline Stones in GA? They are weird.


33 posted on 06/28/2014 5:43:45 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: txrefugee
So you old eurocentric, you!

You would be interested to know that the Italians are trying to figure out what to do with an entire Roman library found at a posh villa in Herculaneum. Burned to a crisp, of course ... so, how do we read it all those lost classics ... what we have is a drop in the bucket.

34 posted on 06/28/2014 7:49:18 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: hal ogen

‘Maybe the IRS liars are actually Incas...leaving no record behind.’

Maybe the Incas were into bondage.


35 posted on 06/28/2014 8:31:32 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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